| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2024-06-04 | |||
| 16:13:33 | erlon | I have a request here | |
| 16:13:46 | erlon | for Review priorities | |
| 16:14:16 | erlon | I would like to get some attention on the Shared security groups patches? | |
| 16:14:40 | bauzas | #undo | |
| 16:14:40 | opendevmeet | Removing item from minutes: #topic Stable Branches | |
| 16:14:41 | erlon | s/?/\./g | |
| 16:14:56 | marlinc | I might have put my blueprint in the wrong meeting section, I'm not sure if it is this or open discussion | |
| 16:15:06 | sean-k-mooney | no that at the end | |
| 16:15:12 | bauzas | marlinc: we'll discuss this on the open discussion | |
| 16:15:17 | sean-k-mooney | which is where we should discuss the shared security group patches :) | |
| 16:15:29 | marlinc | Thank you :) | |
| 16:15:30 | bauzas | erlon: for your series, this will be reviewed like any other | |
| 16:15:41 | erlon | ow, came on, thas a review priority topic :) | |
| 16:16:01 | bauzas | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-dalmatian-status?#L37 | |
| 16:16:05 | bauzas | yeah | |
| 16:16:16 | erlon | Right, I just want to make sure that I don't miss any deadlines on that one | |
| 16:16:18 | sean-k-mooney | yes and no its not identifed as a review priortiy form my perspective | |
| 16:16:18 | bauzas | given your blueprint was accepted | |
| 16:16:26 | sean-k-mooney | but ill try and review it after the meeting | |
| 16:16:34 | sean-k-mooney | looks like its passing ci now | |
| 16:16:37 | erlon | And I also have a special request on that | |
| 16:16:41 | bauzas | ditto here, I already have a lot of other series to look at | |
| 16:16:55 | bauzas | moving on then | |
| 16:17:01 | bauzas | #topic Stable Branches | |
| 16:17:11 | bauzas | elodilles: heya | |
| 16:17:16 | elodilles | o/ | |
| 16:17:24 | elodilles | #info stable gates should be mostly OK | |
| 16:17:40 | elodilles | (i've seen some intermittent failures, otherwise, nothing special) | |
| 16:17:48 | elodilles | #info stable release proposed for 2024.1 Caracal: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/921287 | |
| 16:18:07 | elodilles | we had Bobcat and Antelope stable releases some weeks ago, | |
| 16:18:21 | elodilles | maybe we can release now Caracal as well ^^^ | |
| 16:18:34 | elodilles | feel free to comment on the release patch | |
| 16:18:45 | elodilles | #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci | |
| 16:18:55 | elodilles | add any issue if you see one ^^^ | |
| 16:19:17 | elodilles | and that's all from me | |
| 16:20:25 | bauzas | thanks | |
| 16:20:35 | bauzas | I'll look at the caracal patch | |
| 16:21:04 | elodilles | bauzas: thx in advance | |
| 16:21:09 | bauzas | +1d fwiw | |
| 16:21:22 | bauzas | #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights | |
| 16:21:29 | bauzas | fwiesel: are you here ? | |
| 16:21:38 | fwiesel | Hi, yes... | |
| 16:21:45 | fwiesel | #info No updates. | |
| 16:22:13 | fwiesel | Still little progress from my side currently. Sorry about that. | |
| 16:22:22 | fwiesel | Any questions or comments? | |
| 16:22:41 | bauzas | not from me | |
| 16:22:55 | bauzas | moving on then | |
| 16:23:00 | bauzas | #topic Open discussion | |
| 16:23:11 | bauzas | erlon: nova handling of virDomainGetJobStats() errors | |
| 16:23:27 | erlon | so, I posted a link on the wiki | |
| 16:23:41 | erlon | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/sombrafam/8f177cbc4e153c328a242811bc24650e/raw/67190ffce7f036c7c3d3628fda15327cef7a41da/nova-compute.log | |
| 16:23:45 | bauzas | (woah, we have 4 topics to discuss today so please discuss everyone by only 5-10 mins maxc) | |
| 16:23:54 | erlon | This bug, is happening every time that we try to do a lot of migrations | |
| 16:24:29 | bauzas | just file a blueprint bug report | |
| 16:24:36 | erlon | For some reason the source host stops responding, and it gets to the time out. I want to know if would be okay to add a new Handler for this kind of exception there: | |
| 16:24:36 | erlon | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py#L669 | |
| 16:24:40 | bauzas | and ping us anytime on the chat | |
| 16:24:45 | sean-k-mooney | erlon: does that imply you you have set the max conncurrent live migration over 1 | |
| 16:24:51 | erlon | ah ok, sounds good | |
| 16:25:14 | erlon | I don't know the exact configuration but very likely | |
| 16:25:24 | sean-k-mooney | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.max_concurrent_live_migrations | |
| 16:25:35 | sean-k-mooney | that should bassicly never be set to anything excpet 1 | |
| 16:26:02 | erlon | So why does that exist? Which case should it apply? | |
| 16:26:12 | sean-k-mooney | there are usecases for it to be != 1 but unless you using 100G networking its not recommended | |
| 16:26:16 | bauzas | it just says it can't connect to the libvirt API | |
| 16:26:37 | sean-k-mooney | it exists for usecases wehere a single core is not enough to saturate the network link | |
| 16:26:47 | bauzas | there could be different reasons why libvirt is resetting the connection | |
| 16:27:02 | erlon | It says that because it time it out due to a short keepalive | |
| 16:27:02 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas:right but since they said this was load related | |
| 16:27:22 | sean-k-mooney | not doning concurrent live migrations may help | |
| 16:27:40 | bauzas | oh, missed that sentence, indeed good point | |
| 16:27:50 | bauzas | don't try to max out the number of calls you make to libvirt | |
| 16:28:01 | bauzas | like any other API, it has limits | |
| 16:28:23 | erlon | This comes from the libvirt logs: "At the same time in libvirtd logs: `May 28 13:00:39 ps5-ra1-n6 libvirtd[612268]: internal error: connection closed due to keepalive timeout`" | |
| 16:28:41 | erlon | So, that's why we know thats a timeout error | |
| 16:28:51 | bauzas | erlon: to answer your original question, no, I wouldn't recommend to modify Nova to handle that libvirt exception | |
| 16:29:28 | bauzas | particularly when the bug comes from libvirt, not nova itself | |
| 16:30:04 | erlon | But see, that function does exactly that. it handles only libvirt exceptions | |
| 16:30:31 | sean-k-mooney | there are some cases where retrying at the nova level is correct | |
| 16:30:38 | sean-k-mooney | this may or may not be one of them | |
| 16:30:39 | bauzas | specific and meaningful libvirt exceptions, that's the point :) | |
| 16:30:47 | sean-k-mooney | can you right this up as a bug report if you have not already | |
| 16:31:03 | sean-k-mooney | and we can see see if this is such a case | |
| 16:31:03 | bauzas | retrying on a generic connection failed is never a good idea | |
| 16:31:13 | erlon | ok, I will as soon as I get a reproducer | |
| 16:31:33 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: we do that all the time for rest calls | |
| 16:31:34 | bauzas | honestly, you have my opinion | |
| 16:31:49 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: to placement | |
| 16:31:50 | sean-k-mooney | this is us doing a read call to check the status fo the job | |
| 16:31:58 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: and neutorn and cinder | |
| 16:31:58 | erlon | I was actually thinking and just returning, an empty info and leave nova call it again in the next periodic task, since this is just a info report | |
| 16:32:48 | sean-k-mooney | perhaps or catching it an logging a warning | |
| 16:32:56 | sean-k-mooney | rather then a trace back | |
| 16:33:03 | bauzas | I wouldn't hide | |
| 16:33:11 | sean-k-mooney | anywya if you have a repoducer we can discuss the solution in gerrit | |
| 16:33:12 | bauzas | if I were catching that exception | |
| 16:34:00 | erlon | The issue with the current process is that, although it triggers the section again, the | |
| 16:34:00 | erlon | periodic tasks do not complete the migration. Consequently, while the VM is migrated | |
| 16:34:00 | erlon | to the destination host, it is not properly cleaned up on the source host. | |
| 16:34:03 | bauzas | honestly, exception giving a better log to the operator saying 'libvirt is getting weirdo, see", I don't see the benefit of adding another handler to a periodic | |