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#openstack-nova - 2023-12-12
16:10:11 bauzas anything about the gate ?
16:10:22 bauzas looks not
16:10:28 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:10:32 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/caracal/schedule.html#nova
16:10:35 bauzas #info Caracal-2 (and spec freeze) milestone in 4 weeks
16:10:38 bauzas time flies
16:10:51 bauzas last week, we had a good spec review day with 3 specs merged
16:11:10 bauzas but I beg here cores to look at other specs :)
16:11:44 bauzas fwiw, I'll do my duty
16:12:34 bauzas https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/nova-specs+is:open+file:%5Especs/2024.1/.* is the list of open specs for 2024.1
16:13:00 bauzas that's it for me on the release cadence
16:13:04 bauzas nothing really important else
16:13:10 bauzas moving on
16:13:14 bauzas #topic Review priorities
16:13:29 Uggla o/
16:13:34 bauzas one important thing
16:13:40 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-caracal-status
16:13:47 bauzas I updated the etherpad
16:14:18 bauzas #info please use and reuse this etherpad by looking at both the specs and the bugfixes
16:14:39 sean-k-mooney do we want to add a fixed/merged section in that
16:14:49 bauzas sean-k-mooney: we have it
16:14:55 bauzas but not for the bugfixes
16:14:58 bauzas I can add it
16:15:10 sean-k-mooney ya we have feature compelte
16:15:33 sean-k-mooney basically it might be a nice refernce for the prolog or release summary
16:15:50 bauzas yes
16:16:31 bauzas anyway, moving on
16:16:37 bauzas #topic Stable Branches
16:16:46 bauzas elodilles_pto: oh, he's on PTO
16:16:58 bauzas #info stable gates don't seem blocked
16:17:02 bauzas #info stable release patches still open for review: https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/releases+is:open+intopic:nova
16:17:13 bauzas #info yoga is going to be unmaintained, so final stable/yoga release should happen ASAP - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-yoga-eom
16:17:25 bauzas also, I'll add my own point
16:18:22 bauzas #link Yoga EOL change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/903278
16:19:03 bauzas folks, if you want to wait to merge the EOL change until some change, please tell it above ^
16:19:16 bauzas for me, I already +1d this EOL change
16:19:38 bauzas oh shit
16:19:39 JayF I'll note that's the Ussuri EOL change if you wanna fix the minutes
16:19:40 bauzas #undo
16:19:40 opendevmeet Removing item from minutes: #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/903278
16:19:47 JayF jinx :)
16:19:56 bauzas #link *Ussuri* EOL change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/903278
16:20:08 bauzas voila
16:20:20 bauzas for Yoga, that's for EM
16:20:33 bauzas #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci
16:20:42 bauzas that's it I guess for the stable topic
16:20:56 bauzas anything else for stable branches ?
16:21:03 sean-k-mooney one thing
16:21:12 sean-k-mooney dependign on how the new images work on master
16:21:29 sean-k-mooney we may want to consider backporting those changes to stabel branches if we see
16:21:33 sean-k-mooney kernel panics there
16:21:45 sean-k-mooney so we should revisit this topic in a few weeks
16:21:52 sean-k-mooney nothing to do now
16:22:12 bauzas we should wait a bit until we backport them
16:22:14 bauzas but sure
16:22:24 bauzas looks to me the gate is better by now
16:23:06 bauzas ok, then moving to the next topic
16:23:11 bauzas #topic vmwareapi 3rd-party CI efforts Highlights
16:23:23 fwiesel #Info Fully working devstack in lab environment manually set up. Now working on automatic setup / teardown for CI
16:23:27 bauzas fwiesel: grandchild: anything you want to tell ?
16:23:41 bauzas fwiesel: ++
16:23:44 bauzas thanks !
16:23:49 fwiesel So, "fully working" meaning, we can spin up an instance and it has network, etc..., but....
16:23:56 fwiesel #Info Initial test runs show vmwareapi is broken (only boot from volume works, not nova boot), bugfixes will come after working CI
16:24:07 bauzas ahah
16:24:08 fwiesel We cannot simply boot from an image
16:24:21 bauzas so that's why we need a 3rd party CI :)à
16:24:21 bauzas so that's why we need a 3rd party CI :)à
16:24:32 bauzas looks like we regressed during some time
16:24:49 fwiesel So probably the CI needs to be non-voting in the beginning, I assume
16:24:55 bauzas fwiesel: will you be able to provide some bugfixes ? have you found the root cause ?
16:25:06 bauzas fwiesel: oh yeah, definitely
16:25:24 bauzas we'll run the job as non-voting first
16:25:27 fwiesel bauzas: I haven't looked at the root cause yet, as I thought a working CI has priority. Then we tackle the bugs one by one.
16:25:35 bauzas fwiesel: cool, no worries
16:25:41 sean-k-mooney fwiesel: third party ci cannot be voting
16:25:51 bauzas fwiesel: in case you need help, we can discuss those in your topic next weeks
16:25:53 fwiesel bauzas: But yes, we will be able to provide the bug fixes. It should be not terribly difficult
16:25:55 sean-k-mooney you can leave code review +1 or -1
16:26:04 sean-k-mooney but never verifed +1 or -1
16:26:19 sean-k-mooney or at least in a way that will prevent a patch merging
16:26:22 fwiesel sean-k-mooney: Ah, thanks for the explanation. Then I got the terminology wrong.
16:26:32 sean-k-mooney no worries
16:26:39 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I think we had 3rd-party CI jobs voting before ? (with zuul 2)
16:26:45 sean-k-mooney no
16:26:47 sean-k-mooney never
16:27:02 sean-k-mooney we disucssed it in the past and said that was not ok
16:27:10 sean-k-mooney as we cant have the gate blocked by a third party ci
16:27:39 sean-k-mooney if we are revieing a vmware patch and it breaks the vmware ci
16:27:44 fwiesel I meant, it probably shouldn't even leave a -1 in the beginning
16:27:44 sean-k-mooney we are very unlikely to merge it
16:27:52 sean-k-mooney but htat was left to cores to judge
16:27:59 clarkb you can haev a third party CI -1 and +1 without blocking anything. Only -2 blocks
16:28:00 bauzas okay, maybe this was in 2015 or earlier, but IIRC we had a job that was testing the DB time when upgrading and it was a 3rd-party CI
16:28:18 sean-k-mooney clarkb: we can yes
16:28:28 sean-k-mooney since gate only looks form verified form zuul
16:28:30 bauzas but maybe it never voted, can't exactly remember the details
16:29:02 sean-k-mooney bauzas: as far as i am aware we have never had third party voting ci and
16:29:16 sean-k-mooney i am not sure i want to change that in the future
16:29:16 bauzas anyway, this is not a problem

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