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#openstack-nova - 2023-06-27
16:12:45 bauzas gmann: could you add a new change for skipping test_rebuild_volume_backed_server on nova-ceph-multistore
16:12:47 bauzas ?
16:13:14 bauzas dansmith: oh wait, verifying
16:13:42 dansmith the patch specifically calls out the nova job
16:14:02 bauzas yeah, you're right, the test is now skipped
16:14:07 bauzas gmann: nevermind what I said
16:14:17 bauzas https://6354f24cae23db064c15-540aa9666e0f6140cd4132fd113878d1.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com/876075/14/check/nova-ceph-multistore/617bfe5/testr_results.html I don't see the test
16:14:46 bauzas dansmith: sorry, I misunderstood what you said
16:15:28 dansmith ..okay
16:15:55 bauzas dansmith: sometimes my brain doesn't run correctly
16:16:04 bauzas :(
16:16:25 bauzas anyway, moving on
16:16:32 bauzas #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Nova&Placement periodic jobs status
16:16:43 bauzas nothing to relate
16:16:50 bauzas #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:16:56 bauzas #info STOP DOING BLIND RECHECKS aka. 'recheck' https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures
16:17:06 bauzas (I could remove this note next week)
16:17:32 bauzas moving on then, unless folks want to discuss on some other CI failures
16:17:59 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:18:04 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html
16:18:10 bauzas #info Nova deadlines are set in the above schedule
16:18:15 bauzas #info Nova spec review day today (June 27th)
16:18:24 bauzas I started to review a few specs
16:18:27 bauzas I approved one
16:18:43 bauzas I still have two other specs to look at
16:19:09 bauzas if I don't have time to look at them today, I'll continue to review the specs tomorrow
16:19:31 bauzas and tomorrow, I'll add an etherpad about the already merged specs and their code
16:19:58 bauzas as an important reminder,
16:20:00 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html#b-nova-spec-freeze Nova Spec Freeze on July 6th !
16:20:08 bauzas which is next week
16:20:26 bauzas most of the specs I've seen already have implementation changes
16:20:41 bauzas so thanks folks for that
16:21:11 bauzas anything anyone that wants to discuss on either specs or our release planning ?
16:21:52 bauzas -
16:22:01 bauzas moving on then
16:22:09 bauzas #topic Stable Branches
16:22:16 bauzas elodilles: wants to discuss anything ?
16:22:26 elodilles bauzas: nope, actually
16:22:31 bauzas cool cool
16:22:38 elodilles not much happened recently
16:22:40 elodilles around stable
16:22:46 bauzas #info stable gates should be OK (from stable/2023.1 to stable/train)
16:22:51 bauzas #info stable branch status / gate failures tracking etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-stable-branch-ci
16:22:57 bauzas elodilles: no news is good :)
16:23:08 elodilles :)
16:23:08 bauzas #info train-eol patch proposed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/885365
16:23:14 bauzas elodilles: I've seen your comment
16:23:23 elodilles yepp, it needs an update
16:23:51 bauzas so you're also asking to EOL placement, os-vif, os-resource-classes, and the clients ?
16:24:04 bauzas I can work on it
16:24:22 elodilles yes, i guess those would be good to EOL together
16:24:24 elodilles with nova
16:24:36 elodilles as no reason to keep them in EM, right?
16:24:40 elodilles without nova...
16:24:45 bauzas elodilles: also, my question is, shall we abandon the changes in the stable branches, or would it be done automatically ?
16:24:58 gibi os-traits and os-resource classes should be tight to the placement eol
16:25:12 elodilles they need to be abandoned, there's no automation
16:25:14 bauzas elodilles: for os-vif and novaclient, sounds ok
16:25:23 bauzas for placement dependencies, I'm quite torn
16:25:29 gibi but os-traits might also be used be neutron
16:25:51 bauzas gibi: good call, then let's stick to os-vif and novaclient
16:26:01 elodilles i guess if nova eol's it's train branch then maybe other projects will do the same
16:26:06 bauzas we could discuss about EOLing placement and its deps on another change
16:26:20 gibi bauzas: os-vif is also used by neutron for sure
16:26:21 elodilles (and i won't insist to keep open neutron either in that case o:)
16:26:38 bauzas elodilles: I've heard other projects that would EOL *all* their EM branches but I haven't seen yet any change :)
16:26:49 gibi python-novaclient is used by cinder and neutron for the external events no?
16:26:54 elodilles bauzas: yes, i only seen the cinder patch yet
16:27:02 bauzas gibi: good point, let's then be conservative and only EOL novaclient
16:27:02 gibi also heat probably uses nova-pythonclient
16:27:28 bauzas elodilles: what have we done when we EOL'd Stein ?
16:27:30 gibi can we delete all the train branches at once? :D
16:27:36 bauzas I thought nova did it in advance
16:27:47 elodilles heat is already EOL'd up to ussuri
16:28:27 elodilles bauzas: if you ask about the open patches: i ussually abandon the patches to be able to delete the branch :)
16:28:57 elodilles so i can abandon them whenever there is a decision
16:28:58 bauzas elodilles: so I need to click on *every* open patch to abandon it ?
16:29:27 bauzas disclaimer, my office room is 28°C now, my brain is absolutely fried.
16:29:31 elodilles bauzas: i can do that (there aren't many open patches)
16:30:09 bauzas so, what's the outcome of this long conversation ,
16:30:11 bauzas ?
16:30:19 elodilles here the temperature is quite moderate now 21°C :)
16:30:19 bauzas I guess only nova and novaclient can be EOL now
16:30:43 bauzas elodilles: it's 28°C *inside* my room (I don't have any A/C)
16:30:47 gibi bauzas: I'm not sure about python-novaclient
16:31:01 bauzas okay, so let's be strict
16:31:05 bauzas and only EOL nova
16:31:11 sean-k-mooney EOLign should not break others as we are just closing the branch and tagging it
16:31:13 bauzas elodilles: fancy revisiting your comment ?
16:31:22 sean-k-mooney and libs like os-vif are installed form pypi by default
16:32:17 sean-k-mooney at most we would need a overdied-checkout for os-vif to poitn to the eol tag unless i missed something
16:32:19 elodilles bauzas: i still think it's better to EOL all the other nova projects in the same go
16:32:32 sean-k-mooney ya same ^
16:32:59 bauzas gibi: agree then ?
16:33:02 gibi elodilles: sure, but then somebody need to handle the fallout
16:33:24 elodilles gibi: by fallout you mean?
16:33:46 gibi other project's job is failing to check out the deleted branch
16:34:05 gibi as an exmple
16:34:06 gibi example
16:34:34 elodilles yeah, that probably needs to be fixed (and honestly, more like EOL'ing everything else

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