| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-02-28 | |||
| 16:18:15 | gibi | but as I said I'm OK to move the doc to match with the code or move the code to match with the doc | |
| 16:18:16 | bauzas | gibi: so you want me to modify https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/upgrades.html#rolling-upgrade-process ? | |
| 16:18:51 | gibi | bauzas: I would like to see a consistent documentation about Antelope supports regarding old compute service versions | |
| 16:19:13 | gibi | if we go with Antelop supporting Yoga computes then yes https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/upgrades.html#rolling-upgrade-process needs a change | |
| 16:19:45 | gibi | (or we just fall back to only support N-1 and modify https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874932 to only support Zed computes in Antelope) | |
| 16:19:56 | bauzas | cool, then I'll just add a doc modification for it in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/upgrades.html#rolling-upgrade-process | |
| 16:20:00 | bauzas | shit | |
| 16:20:11 | bauzas | add a doc modif in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874932 | |
| 16:20:23 | gibi | OK | |
| 16:20:55 | bauzas | do people prefer here to only support Zed instead of Yoga ? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874932 | |
| 16:21:00 | bauzas | dansmith: sean-k-mooney: ^ | |
| 16:21:25 | dansmith | for bobcat or antelope? | |
| 16:21:51 | bauzas | MHO is that I'd prefer to modify the rolling upgrade document and say yes, we can support Yoga computes for Antelope services | |
| 16:21:55 | dansmith | as I think I've mentioned, for antelope I think it would be nice to have a best-effort trial run of N-2 support, so antelope would support yoga | |
| 16:22:04 | dansmith | yeah that ^ | |
| 16:22:14 | sean-k-mooney | ya i think yoga makes sense | |
| 16:22:33 | bauzas | dansmith: yeah, gibi asked either to modify the doc or not modify it but only support Zed computes with Antelope conductors | |
| 16:22:44 | bauzas | I'd prefer the former | |
| 16:22:48 | dansmith | yeah | |
| 16:22:49 | sean-k-mooney | with that said for bobcat technially it should be antelope but i assume dansmith would prefer zed | |
| 16:23:09 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: I'd prefer we just try to do N-2 always unless we come up with a blocking reason we can't yeah | |
| 16:23:22 | bauzas | that's another change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621/ that needs to be merged *after* RC1 | |
| 16:23:23 | dansmith | I think we'll be able to do it | |
| 16:23:35 | sean-k-mooney | right whihc is not strictly requried by the governance resolution but im ok to try that until it breaks | |
| 16:23:48 | bauzas | but looks like dansmith prefers to support Zed computes with Bobcat so meh | |
| 16:23:48 | gibi | then modify the upgrade doc to state that in Antelope we support N-2 (Zed) computes as best effort | |
| 16:23:53 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: if nothing else, it'll highlight the thing(s) that prevent us from doing it, which are good for planning | |
| 16:24:21 | dansmith | gibi: best effort is the right terminology yeah | |
| 16:24:27 | bauzas | ok, so let's try to make the grenade-skip-level job voting | |
| 16:24:48 | dansmith | s/make/keep/ right? | |
| 16:24:56 | bauzas | it's n-v as I speak | |
| 16:25:05 | sean-k-mooney | voting based on 22.04 wiht zed ->bobcat | |
| 16:25:06 | bauzas | and only in check | |
| 16:25:08 | dansmith | oh, I thought I looked | |
| 16:25:20 | bauzas | only in check pipeline | |
| 16:25:21 | dansmith | okay, I see.. yeah "make" then | |
| 16:26:01 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: cool then I can modify https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621/ to make grenade-skip-level *voting* | |
| 16:26:28 | bauzas | (and adding it to the gate pipeline) | |
| 16:27:06 | bauzas | that one would be merged *AFTER* 2023.1 RC1 to be clear, so it would be a 2023.2 change | |
| 16:27:17 | bauzas | agreed ? | |
| 16:27:43 | sean-k-mooney | yes | |
| 16:27:58 | bauzas | ok, and about your point with focal, sure | |
| 16:28:21 | bauzas | we need to test the N-2 rolling upgrade with ubuntu 22.04 only, right? | |
| 16:28:30 | sean-k-mooney | yes | |
| 16:28:39 | bauzas | cool | |
| 16:28:41 | sean-k-mooney | because i want us to bump our min libvirt/qemu | |
| 16:28:45 | bauzas | looks like we have consensus | |
| 16:28:51 | dansmith | I think we can only switch that once we convert it to start from zed, which it doesn't currently do | |
| 16:29:02 | sean-k-mooney | and i htink the ones we chose last were released in 20.10 | |
| 16:29:24 | sean-k-mooney | yes it will need to wait for changing to zed | |
| 16:29:27 | bauzas | what's the TC supported release for Yoga ? | |
| 16:29:29 | sean-k-mooney | which might need a grenade change | |
| 16:29:41 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: it will yeah | |
| 16:29:53 | sean-k-mooney | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/runtimes/yoga.rst | |
| 16:29:57 | sean-k-mooney | 20.04 | |
| 16:30:19 | sean-k-mooney | its technically the same for zed 20.04 | |
| 16:30:28 | sean-k-mooney | but canoncial released zed on 22.04 | |
| 16:30:50 | bauzas | that's what I was looking for | |
| 16:30:51 | dansmith | I need to talk to gmann first but I will propose the skip-level job change | |
| 16:30:59 | bauzas | so | |
| 16:31:19 | sean-k-mooney | devstack works fin with zed on 22.04 the last time i tried it so i expect it to work | |
| 16:31:21 | bauzas | are we saying that we would use focal or jammy for the N-2>N skip-level job ? | |
| 16:31:35 | sean-k-mooney | focal for now jammy when we change to zed | |
| 16:31:40 | dansmith | jammy once we upgrade to zed->bobcat | |
| 16:31:43 | bauzas | cool | |
| 16:31:54 | bauzas | I agree then | |
| 16:32:24 | bauzas | #action bauzas to make our grenade-skip-level job voting after antelope rc1 on focal | |
| 16:32:39 | bauzas | I guess we're done with that topic | |
| 16:32:46 | bauzas | last point tho | |
| 16:32:54 | bauzas | #info who's interested in running for being a release liaison ? | |
| 16:32:54 | bauzas | #info who's interested in running for being a release liaison ? | |
| 16:32:59 | bauzas | we discussed it last week | |
| 16:33:11 | bauzas | as a reminder, https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-liaisons | |
| 16:33:48 | bauzas | tl;dr: look at Gerrit to see whether the releases team created a patch for reviews | |
| 16:33:58 | bauzas | and say yay or nay on that patch | |
| 16:34:35 | bauzas | that job is basically backed by a French person that knows it for a while | |
| 16:34:54 | bauzas | but I'd prefer not to be alone in order to avoid elodilles to hassle me with pings | |
| 16:34:56 | bauzas | :p | |
| 16:35:07 | elodilles | note: release liaisons are added as reviewers automatically (usually) to related release patches | |
| 16:35:36 | bauzas | on a side note, I have a non-urgent patch for cleaning up the PTL guide https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875730 | |
| 16:35:40 | sean-k-mooney | i have done it now for 2-3 releases i can try and find time when pinged to look but if other are intereested let us know | |
| 16:35:55 | bauzas | that may help this person to know what to look and when | |
| 16:36:03 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: we can have multiple liaisons | |
| 16:36:21 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 16:36:41 | bauzas | I very briefly discuss this with Uggla and he was showing a very slight interest in that | |
| 16:36:46 | bauzas | discussed* | |
| 16:37:05 | bauzas | but maybe he left the meeting now, he had another appointment | |
| 16:37:07 | sean-k-mooney | which is a good point it does not have to be a person form the core team nessisarly | |
| 16:37:16 | auniyal | o/ I can ! | |
| 16:37:21 | sean-k-mooney | we are not in rush | |
| 16:37:47 | bauzas | auniyal: ack, noted. | |
| 16:37:58 | bauzas | I'll discuss this with you later | |
| 16:38:02 | auniyal | ack | |
| 16:38:26 | bauzas | thanks for the offer | |
| 16:40:01 | bauzas | moving on | |
| 16:40:15 | bauzas | #topic vPTG Planning | |
| 16:40:23 | bauzas | the usual now reminder | |
| 16:40:25 | bauzas | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-march-2023-tickets-483971570997 Register your free ticket | |
| 16:40:30 | bauzas | and | |
| 16:40:32 | bauzas | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bobcat-ptg Draft PTG etherpad | |