| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2023-02-28 | |||
| 08:32:05 | bauzas | gibi: yep, I see your point | |
| 08:32:22 | bauzas | fwiw, we haven't yet agreed on this, which should be done at the vPTG | |
| 08:39:25 | bauzas | gibi: got a second for thinking about 2023.1 SLURP implications ? | |
| 08:40:57 | gibi | be back in 5min to think | |
| 08:47:47 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Update min service version for Antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874932 | |
| 08:47:59 | bauzas | right in time | |
| 08:48:04 | bauzas | I totally flipped my mind | |
| 08:48:08 | gibi | so what I quoted from that dock is #6 | |
| 08:48:15 | gibi | s/docks/doc/ | |
| 08:48:20 | bauzas | yup | |
| 08:48:29 | bauzas | see my latest revision | |
| 08:48:35 | gibi | looking... | |
| 08:48:56 | bauzas | my wonder is, do we have a grenade-skip-level job in place that validates our N-2 computes ? | |
| 08:49:48 | opendevreview | Jorge San Emeterio proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Creating an example of the refactor privileged functions will go through. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875497 | |
| 08:49:49 | bauzas | yeah, we do | |
| 08:49:54 | bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L759 | |
| 08:50:47 | bauzas | https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?job_name=grenade-skip-level&project=openstack%2Fnova&skip=0 | |
| 08:58:39 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Update min service version for Antelope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874932 | |
| 08:58:40 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: DNM (yet) Update min support for Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621 | |
| 09:00:25 | gibi | bauzas: replied inline | |
| 09:00:40 | gibi | the current patch still proposes allowing Antelope to support Yoga computes, but it does not document it | |
| 09:01:19 | gibi | ahh you pushed PS3 | |
| 09:02:41 | gibi | I think my comments still valid for PS3 too | |
| 09:03:27 | bauzas | gibi: tl,dr : I don't disagree with your very valid points, we haven't properly documented the level of support operators shall expect | |
| 09:03:38 | bauzas | but I think I understood the pattern | |
| 09:04:02 | bauzas | we'll remove the grenade-skip-level patch in Bobcat | |
| 09:06:15 | bauzas | gibi: ideally, I'd clarify this in our meeting | |
| 09:06:21 | bauzas | with dansmith and others around | |
| 09:07:57 | gibi | ohh on that note, I might not be able to join today | |
| 09:07:59 | bauzas | I also wonder whether we should remove the grenade-skip-level job run on check pipeline at the same time of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621/ in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/.zuul.yaml#L759-L760 | |
| 09:08:28 | bauzas | gibi: ok, then we'll try to discuss this first with dan before you run off | |
| 09:09:12 | gibi | I think having a non voting skip level during Bobcat does not hurt if we clearly communicate what support (none) is expected in Bobcat for Zed computes | |
| 09:10:23 | bauzas | gibi: I don't disagree but maybe it shouldn't be on the check pipeline | |
| 09:10:31 | bauzas | gibi: maybe periodic + experimental | |
| 09:11:01 | gibi | I'm fine either way. For me having a job we ignore is a non issue. I more affaraid of miscommunication of support | |
| 09:11:14 | bauzas | and right after Bobcat RC1, we should set the job to *voting* | |
| 09:11:55 | opendevreview | Jorge San Emeterio proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Creating an example of the refactor privileged functions will go through. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875497 | |
| 09:11:58 | bauzas | the point here is that I'm always context loading at every end of a cycle, this is not great | |
| 09:12:11 | bauzas | I really want we agree on a pattern to follow | |
| 09:12:29 | gibi | sure. have a pattern, document it, and then it is easier to follow | |
| 09:12:32 | bauzas | so new PTLs should just copy/paste | |
| 09:13:11 | bauzas | I'm glad we had the grenade-skip-level job running despite I completely forgot about it | |
| 09:13:24 | bauzas | this was added way earlier | |
| 09:13:40 | bauzas | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/219c360dc19f79ce7df8a92f6487aee97a64ee4c#diff-108978819c05ae183d88ec87959c2341a94cfc3f9465e3aeee82d554217b4f58 | |
| 09:14:20 | gibi | the ptl guide has the timeline so I guess that is a good place to document the pattern to follow | |
| 09:14:41 | bauzas | oh yeah | |
| 09:14:50 | bauzas | I used it a lot | |
| 09:14:59 | bauzas | + the rc1 etherpads | |
| 09:15:26 | bauzas | I'll do a bit of scrubbing | |
| 09:26:50 | opendevreview | Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: DNM (yet) Update min support for Bobcat https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621 | |
| 09:28:36 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: we do not need a skip level upgrade job for 2023.2 | |
| 09:29:07 | bauzas | yet again a violent agreement ? :) | |
| 09:29:24 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: see my latest rev of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875621 | |
| 09:29:38 | sean-k-mooney | i was just reading that but i dont think we need it in the periodic | |
| 09:30:03 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: I'll wait for dansmith's insights on it | |
| 09:30:17 | bauzas | if he's OK with only experimental, I'm fine. | |
| 09:30:39 | sean-k-mooney | it technically does not need to be there either but sure | |
| 09:30:42 | bauzas | but I'd somehow like the idea of having a periodic for ensuring we don't regress | |
| 09:30:47 | sean-k-mooney | there are no skip level upgrades to bobcat | |
| 09:31:03 | bauzas | I know | |
| 09:31:05 | bauzas | :) | |
| 09:31:12 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 09:31:19 | bauzas | (well, I loaded again the context in my mind, I dare say) | |
| 09:31:21 | sean-k-mooney | so that job bascially is only needed half the year | |
| 09:31:35 | bauzas | well, we had it during the whole zed cycle too :) | |
| 09:32:07 | bauzas | my biggest concern that I raised to gibi is that it takes me always a lot of time to load again the context | |
| 09:32:15 | bauzas | so I want to eventually write docs about it | |
| 09:32:16 | sean-k-mooney | i think that was because that is when it was written | |
| 09:32:39 | sean-k-mooney | but sure it should proably get listed in the ptl guide or something like that | |
| 09:32:58 | bauzas | yup, scroll it up | |
| 09:33:02 | bauzas | I'm on it | |
| 09:33:03 | gibi | :) | |
| 09:33:15 | bauzas | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/831229 was when we added the job | |
| 09:33:25 | bauzas | it was on the yoga timeframe | |
| 09:33:27 | bauzas | and then we left it | |
| 09:41:09 | sean-k-mooney | i see what release was it upgrading form during zed | |
| 09:41:17 | bauzas | gibi: sean-k-mooney: do you remember how we tracked the default policy changes from gmann ? It isn't a blueprint AFAICS | |
| 09:41:35 | sean-k-mooney | bauzas: its a blueprint/spec | |
| 09:41:46 | bauzas | I'm maybe blind | |
| 09:42:17 | sean-k-mooney | well | |
| 09:42:20 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: I'm not talking of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-service-role-default | |
| 09:42:22 | sean-k-mooney | ok so the service role was | |
| 09:42:38 | sean-k-mooney | ya i asked for both to be blueprint/specs | |
| 09:42:51 | sean-k-mooney | because i was unhappy with having no tracker at all | |
| 09:42:56 | sean-k-mooney | i think its in the etherpad | |
| 09:43:04 | bauzas | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/866218 | |
| 09:43:12 | bauzas | wasn't tracked properly | |
| 09:43:34 | bauzas | hence the miss for the cycle highlights | |
| 09:43:39 | bauzas | doh | |
| 09:43:52 | sean-k-mooney | well i responded to gmann | |
| 09:44:01 | sean-k-mooney | i dont think it need to be in nova sycle highlights | |
| 09:44:15 | sean-k-mooney | i think it shoudl go out in the overall release prelude | |
| 09:44:29 | bauzas | this is anyway too late for the cycle highlights | |
| 09:44:36 | bauzas | I'll just mention it in the prelude | |
| 09:44:48 | sean-k-mooney | we should ahve one section that covers all the secure rbac work for all projects | |
| 09:44:57 | bauzas | and I'll actually look at the generated relnotes to see if I missed anything else | |
| 09:45:26 | bauzas | sean-k-mooney: don't disagreed on your point for the cycle highlights | |
| 09:45:34 | bauzas | this is more a cross-project effort | |
| 09:45:45 | bauzas | but let's mention the nova related implications in the prelude | |
| 09:45:59 | sean-k-mooney | sure | |