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#openstack-nova - 2023-02-23
19:25:42 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova master: doc: Add details about the behavior of server delete https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874188
#openstack-nova - 2023-02-24
04:19:11 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Use mysql memory reduction flags for ceph job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874664
09:19:07 opendevreview Christian Rohmann proposed openstack/placement master: Db: Drop redundant indexes for columns already having unique constraint https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/856770
12:08:35 admin1 hi all .. i have a server that migated from hostA -> hostB and the host is running happily on hostB .. but horizon/nova db did not udpate and it shows server is in hostA.. so cannot do anything from console/horizon ..
12:08:48 admin1 how to update records or have nova correct this error
12:09:37 admin1 nova migration-list shows the migration confirmed normally .. and virsh dumxml uuid all shows the migration went in fine
12:09:50 admin1 there is nothing running in hostA of that uuid
12:26:48 opendevreview Justas Poderys proposed openstack/nova-specs master: VirtIO PackedRing Configuration support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/868377
14:11:39 opendevreview aarefiev proposed openstack/nova master: Doc: update live-migration cmd https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875043
15:08:59 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/os-vif stable/2023.1: Update .gitreview for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/875095
15:09:00 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/os-vif stable/2023.1: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/875096
15:09:01 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/875097
15:09:08 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-placement stable/2023.1: Update .gitreview for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/875098
15:09:09 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-placement stable/2023.1: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/875099
15:09:11 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/875100
15:09:22 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient stable/2023.1: Update .gitreview for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/875101
15:09:23 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient stable/2023.1: Update TOX_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/875102
15:09:25 opendevreview OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/875103
15:26:15 opendevreview Takashi Natsume proposed openstack/placement master: Fix a wrong assertion method https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/placement/+/861489
15:52:39 opendevreview Merged openstack/python-novaclient master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/875103
18:38:35 gmann bauzas: sorry I am little late for nova release highlights , should we mention about RBAC new defaults/scope are enabled by default now? This is important for operators to know.
#openstack-nova - 2023-02-25
10:56:46 sean-k-mooney gmann: perhaps it would be better to do that in one place for all project that completed that phase
10:57:10 sean-k-mooney as an overall openstack feature highlight rahter then just for nova
10:57:42 sean-k-mooney there will be a callout for that anyway in teh features/upgrade section form the release note for the feature tooo
10:58:19 sean-k-mooney the other thing that woudl be good to call out at the opesntack level is declaring 2023.1 as the first SLU release
10:59:13 sean-k-mooney so that they know that we plan to supprot upgradign directly to 2024.1 skipping 2023.2
#openstack-nova - 2023-02-27
08:20:08 bauzas good morning Nova
09:52:39 tobias-urdin good morning o/
09:53:28 tobias-urdin let's say I have hyperthreding enabled, is there any logic to schedule an dedicated pCPU instance to use one core and it's thread sibbling? to ensure no two instances are running on the same thread sibbling and shares that
09:53:57 tobias-urdin i can only find that we can select cpu thread policy but not to isolate actual usage of thread sibblings
09:55:02 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: only if you are not usign cpu in placement
09:55:10 opendevreview Ilya Popov proposed openstack/nova stable/xena: compute: Update volume_id within connection_info during swap_volume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874921
09:55:11 opendevreview Ilya Popov proposed openstack/nova stable/xena: Add regression test for bug #1943431 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/875374
09:55:15 sean-k-mooney we deprecated that functionality a few release ago
09:55:24 sean-k-mooney ~train ish
09:56:05 sean-k-mooney well actully it depend on what you want
09:56:21 sean-k-mooney if you use thread policy require then we require hyperthread siblings to be used
09:56:52 sean-k-mooney i.e a 4 core vm will use 2 phsyical cores and use both hyperthread form each core to provided the 4 pinned cpus
09:57:00 sean-k-mooney that still works today even with placmeent
09:57:08 sean-k-mooney the isolate poicy is what chagned.
09:57:54 sean-k-mooney without pcpu in placementit made each flavor.vcpu be pinnded to a speerate core (and if it had hyperthreadig it reserved the hyperthread so nothing could use it.)
09:58:09 sean-k-mooney with pcpus in placement isolate means find cores without hyperthread
09:58:15 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: hm, so if thread policy=required and using even numbers (4 cores, 8 cores) etc we always assume that thread sibblings for those 2 or 4 cores are assigned to only one instance?
09:58:38 tobias-urdin and that would be honored for live migration as well if we set vcpu_pin_set to same on all nodes?
09:58:40 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: yes i belive so
09:59:06 sean-k-mooney well it does not have to be the same
09:59:20 sean-k-mooney we update the pinning on migration as of train
09:59:35 tobias-urdin ah
09:59:43 sean-k-mooney so they can be slightly differnt vcpu_pin_sets
10:00:10 sean-k-mooney just make sure you include both hypertherad siblings in vcpu_pin_set or cpu_dedicated_set
10:00:52 sean-k-mooney https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/train/implemented/numa-aware-live-migration.html
10:01:03 sean-k-mooney ^ that fixed live migration
10:01:11 sean-k-mooney https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/train/implemented/cpu-resources.html
10:01:25 sean-k-mooney and that explains how placement aware cpu pinning works if you use it
10:03:05 tobias-urdin ack, I think you answered my question but will read above! thanks, wanted to make sure that we could safetly have ht enabled if using dedicated
10:03:26 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: the old way of doign cpu pinning with vcpu_pin_set has been deprecated for a couple of years now. we will likely delete it in 2023.2 or 2024.1
10:03:42 sean-k-mooney you want to prevent inter tenant side channel attacks
10:04:06 sean-k-mooney if so then yes use required/isolate in all flavors to ensure to vms form different tenants dont overlap
10:04:12 tobias-urdin so i will set cpu_policy=dedicated cpu_thread_policy=required on flavor and make sure cpu_dedicated_set is set and including sibblings
10:04:38 opendevreview Merged openstack/os-vif master: Update master for stable/2023.1 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-vif/+/875097
10:04:39 tobias-urdin make sure flavors use even amount of cores, so it gets distributed between core and thread (4 = 2 core, 2 thread, 8 = 4 core, 4 thread etc)
10:04:46 tobias-urdin that sounds reasonable?
10:05:09 sean-k-mooney more or less but read the upgrade section fo the cpu tracking in placemnt doc carefully
10:05:48 tobias-urdin we're on xena moving to yoga in a couple of weeks btw if that makes any difference
10:06:09 sean-k-mooney by the way i generally recommend seting hw:cpu_sockets=<the number of numa nodes> and hw:cpu_thread=2
10:06:57 sean-k-mooney not really just that we planned to delete the old pinning code around wallaby but stephenfin moved team and we just didnt get around to it
10:07:36 sean-k-mooney the upgrade impact is the same regardless of when you actuly do the upgrade form old pining to placment aware pinning
10:08:33 sean-k-mooney with the slight simplifciation that at least you know all your nodes already have support for it in code
10:14:02 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: not sure i follow about what is legacy and not
10:14:56 tobias-urdin it should be tracked in placement already but do you we mean we should probably disable the fallback path for pcpu?
10:15:28 tobias-urdin or do you mean you want to get rid of the hw: aliases and use PCPU etc resource directly in flavor properties to affect placement?
10:21:40 sean-k-mooney useing vcpu_pin_set for pinning is deprecated
10:22:00 sean-k-mooney we will likely remove that config option sooner rather then later
10:22:22 sean-k-mooney PCUPs are only tracked in placment as a sperate inventory if you use cpu_dedicated_set
10:22:39 tobias-urdin that makes sense, thanks
10:22:41 sean-k-mooney there will be no changes to the hw: extra specs
10:22:47 tobias-urdin ack
10:23:45 sean-k-mooney once we remvoe the vcpu_pin_set we can remove the old code for the legacy isolate behavior (asinging one ht siblibing to the vm and reserving the other)
10:24:13 sean-k-mooney that will allow use to simplify that code a little
10:25:33 sean-k-mooney right now any time we want to extend pinned cpus in some way we have to desgin arond the placement natiave and pre placement behavior which is a bit of a pain
10:26:08 sean-k-mooney the code is pretty stable at this point but its still a maintance burden becuase we have to think about both sets anythime we are changing anything
10:26:45 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: i see, but using cpu_dedicated_set should that also honor numa_nodes? i understand, a lof of complexity involved with this amount of options that affect each other
10:27:12 tobias-urdin i.e i set hw:num_nodes=1 on a flavor
10:27:33 bauzas cores, needs a quick slap on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/874103 (max microversion for Antelope)
10:28:11 sean-k-mooney -2 it is then :p
10:28:19 sean-k-mooney lets see
10:28:39 sean-k-mooney yep makes sense
10:28:48 sean-k-mooney that was trivial enough that you could have single core approved that
10:28:51 bauzas sean-k-mooney: we need it every cycle end
10:29:23 sean-k-mooney right but its a mechanical patch and pretty easy to see its correct
10:29:25 bauzas gmann: saw your ping, when you're up, let's discuss about the RBAC stuff for the prelude
10:29:31 sean-k-mooney anyway its on its way
10:30:02 sean-k-mooney although the main delta this time is 2023.1 Antelope
10:30:11 bauzas sean-k-mooney: sure, but I prefer to ask for another review, and in case I don't have a second core, I can +W it
10:30:13 sean-k-mooney i.e. using both the number and the code name
10:31:10 bauzas sean-k-mooney: not sure I understand your concern, takashi used both the number and the code name
10:31:24 sean-k-mooney its not a concern
10:31:28 sean-k-mooney i prefer having both
10:31:39 sean-k-mooney rather then just 2023.1 or antelope
10:32:07 sean-k-mooney that was the one thing i wanted to make sure was done in that patch

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