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#openstack-nova - 2023-02-14
16:10:37 gibi one thing
16:11:11 gibi please be aware that upper constraints bumps cannot be merged at the moment due to failures
16:11:16 bauzas oh that
16:11:20 bauzas forgot to mention
16:11:21 gibi so even though we released os-traits 2.10
16:11:26 gibi we cannot use that yet in placement and nova
16:11:47 bauzas yeah, tbc, that's not only the nova master gate which is broken broken (c) elodilles
16:12:07 bauzas the requirements project do has its own pain, and tempest too
16:12:09 gibi yeah as far as I see every u-c bump is blocked
16:12:15 bauzas correct
16:12:29 bauzas we discussed that in #openstack-requirements earlier today
16:12:35 bauzas there is a fix in the air
16:12:37 bauzas but,
16:12:42 elodilles it seems virtualenv release came just in time
16:12:43 bauzas there is another open issue
16:13:02 bauzas elodilles: yeah, that's lovely, a perfect Murphy timing
16:13:36 elodilles bauzas: could have been worse -> more closer to release date :)
16:13:47 bauzas not sure it changes anything tho
16:14:03 bauzas but let's jump to the next topic
16:14:11 bauzas fwiw, looking at https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/recheck-weekly-summary
16:14:32 bauzas I can still see around 18% of rechecks that are bare rechecks
16:14:39 bauzas this is desesperating
16:14:56 bauzas I mean, we know we have CI failures
16:15:15 bauzas but if you just call 'recheck' without further info, you basically piss off your problems
16:15:46 bauzas and you make looking that you don't care about the CI, then why should we care about your own patches then ?
16:15:55 gibi nova is on 13.5% that is an improvement from the last 90 days (18.5%)
16:16:22 bauzas I'd like to be optimistic
16:16:30 bauzas I know that debugging a CI failure is tricky
16:16:56 bauzas but if you don't make the effort to try looking, then basically that means you don't care
16:17:25 bauzas #link https://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fnova&project=openstack%2Fplacement&pipeline=periodic-weekly Nova&Placement periodic jobs status
16:17:29 bauzas all greens
16:17:36 bauzas #info Please look at the gate failures and file a bug report with the gate-failure tag.
16:17:42 bauzas (that's a wish)
16:17:49 bauzas #info STOP DOING BLIND RECHECKS aka. 'recheck' https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/testing.html#how-to-handle-test-failures
16:17:54 bauzas (that's a formal ask)
16:18:15 bauzas next topic for the fun ?
16:18:23 gibi one thing about CI
16:18:27 bauzas sure
16:19:00 gibi maybe we should make an dedicated effort next cycle to fix up CI first before we jump on adding new features
16:19:19 gibi maybe, asking people with feature proposals to take a gate bug first
16:19:20 bauzas gibi: that's litterally already in the PTG agenda :)
16:19:25 gibi bauzas++
16:19:42 bauzas well, I was less harsh
16:19:56 bauzas but I opened a bullet point about CI failures and I had some ideas
16:20:09 bauzas I wrote some email yesterday
16:20:26 bauzas if people want recognition, I offer them a Great Way to Be Recognized
16:20:35 gibi cool
16:21:24 bauzas moving on then (fwiw, I like your idea to somehow ask people to show some dedication to upstream while they propose)
16:21:31 kashyap gibi: Fixed the thing in the above train backport too: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/873722
16:21:35 bauzas this is actually a great jump to the next topic
16:21:36 kashyap (Err, sorry; there's a meeting going on)
16:21:40 bauzas kashyap: in a meeting
16:21:47 kashyap Yep, yep; saw that
16:21:55 bauzas moving on
16:22:00 bauzas #topic Release Planning
16:22:07 bauzas #link https://releases.openstack.org/antelope/schedule.html
16:22:10 bauzas #info Antelope-3 is in 2 days
16:22:26 bauzas #info FeatureFreeze is in 2 days
16:22:36 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-antelope-blueprint-status Blueprint status for 2023.1
16:22:44 bauzas here, I'm also a bit grumpy
16:23:03 bauzas we approved a couple of blueprints but despite this, a very few of them are actually reviewable
16:23:34 bauzas the os-bricks issue prevents one to correctly get reviewed, but alas, the series is even not fully complete
16:23:58 bauzas os-traits, not os-brick my bad
16:24:17 bauzas so, yeah, back to gibi's proposal, I think we may be harsher next cycle
16:24:32 gibi don't forget this was a shorter cycle
16:24:35 bauzas and ask people to show some evidence of work
16:24:42 bauzas gibi: that's a valid point
16:24:46 bauzas I'm maybe overreacting
16:24:55 gibi it is always emotional before FF
16:24:58 elodilles next cycle will be longer :)
16:25:12 elodilles 28 weeks
16:25:22 bauzas compared to 24, correct ?
16:25:25 elodilles yepp
16:25:42 bauzas well, we'll see then
16:25:43 gibi imageine how much recheck we could do in an extra month :D
16:25:44 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Add logging to find test cases leaking libvirt threads https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/872975
16:25:48 bauzas gibi: :D
16:25:52 bauzas oh wow ^
16:26:07 elodilles \o/
16:26:14 gibi bauzas: now I need not to forget to check for that logs
16:26:16 gibi in the coming days
16:26:20 bauzas gibi: (off-meeting, I'll write a revert patch ;) )
16:26:26 gibi bauzas: good point
16:26:26 bauzas yup
16:26:41 bauzas anyway, back to the release
16:26:56 bauzas I think we made good progress on reviews
16:27:09 bauzas if we missed something or some patch, feel free to amend the etherpad please
16:27:13 bauzas or comment it out
16:27:33 bauzas I did a bit of research and digging but I think I found all the open changes
16:28:11 bauzas moving on then, unless someone caring about an accepted blueprint makes to take the opportunity to raise a concern ?
16:28:17 gibi yeah please cry out loudly if your series has a chance to land in the next two day and you lack reviews
16:29:24 bauzas ++
16:30:03 bauzas ok, let's jump to the next one
16:30:06 bauzas #topic vPTG Planning
16:30:09 bauzas will be short
16:30:12 bauzas just a reminder
16:30:16 bauzas #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-march-2023-tickets-483971570997 Register your free ticket
16:30:21 bauzas #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-bobcat-ptg Draft PTG etherpad
16:30:37 bauzas feel free to add the items you wanna discuss in ^
16:30:45 bauzas #topic Review priorities

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