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#openstack-nova - 2023-01-11
12:14:42 kashyap sean-k-mooney: It is rejected; it was just merely submitted as a patch. I (and libvirt devs) reviewed that upstream libvirt list
12:14:59 kashyap I even linked to that patch discussion in my URLs
12:15:20 sean-k-mooney i see
12:16:01 sean-k-mooney apparently the cpu_model_extra_flags is not working properly to work around that by the way
12:16:03 sean-k-mooney https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2158181
12:16:11 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Let me get the URL from the upstream libvirt folks (from last year). It was spread over months so the archives are split
12:16:22 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Indeed, that's because the model is evaluated _before_ the flags
12:16:46 sean-k-mooney i got that form https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1978064
12:16:57 sean-k-mooney it was marked as fix released
12:17:15 sean-k-mooney kashyap: shoudl we not fix that then instead of removing the check
12:17:31 sean-k-mooney we should be validating the modifed one no?
12:17:45 kashyap sean-k-mooney: The problem here is entirely due the older API, hence the recommendetaion to remove that now-buggy check
12:18:08 sean-k-mooney that really feels like a regression/bug to remove it
12:18:30 kashyap Maybe they're carrying downstream Ubuntu-specific patch?
12:18:44 sean-k-mooney ya maybe im not sure
12:19:05 sean-k-mooney its confusing give i knwo libvirt uses bugzilla for trackign right
12:19:22 sean-k-mooney so this libvirt tracker is presumabel for the ubunu package
12:19:58 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Upstream libvirt uses gitlab now
12:20:24 kashyap (E.g. the "mpx" issue was discussed here, also filed by the Ubuntu person: https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/304)
12:21:09 kashyap (Also notice that is a private libvirt branch that you linked to)
12:21:12 sean-k-mooney kashyap: so looking at https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/issues/304#note_1065798706
12:21:24 sean-k-mooney do we use check=full or generate that check string today
12:21:45 sean-k-mooney this is not related to the start up check
12:22:02 sean-k-mooney but i think we leave that to libvirt to set in most if not all cases
12:23:03 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Here was the rationale that libvirt rejected that adding extra named model. Which I fully agree with:
12:23:09 kashyap [quote]
12:23:09 kashyap Adding a new CPU model is not that serious, but it's not good either as
12:23:10 kashyap it causes unnecessary compatibility issues with older versions of
12:23:10 kashyap libvirt. Especially adding a new CPU model which does not exist in QEMU
12:23:11 kashyap does not make any sense, as libvirt would need to translate it to
12:23:11 kashyap something else when starting QEMU.
12:23:14 kashyap [/quote]
12:23:16 kashyap https://listman.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2022-August/233717.html
12:24:01 sean-k-mooney ya that makes sense why they would not want to do that
12:24:23 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Also almost since 4 years ago, QEMU and libvirt have stopped adding explicit named models like that "-noTSXAndThat_AndThisFeature"
12:24:26 kashyap Right.
12:24:38 kashyap sean-k-mooney: No, we don't use "check=full"
12:24:39 sean-k-mooney i think i would still prefer to move the cpu check to include the extra flags
12:24:50 kashyap (Answering the earlier question)
12:24:53 sean-k-mooney kashyap: ya i didnt think we did but wantted to confirm
12:25:11 kashyap sean-k-mooney: I'll let some actual tests with real CPU models be done by QE to see the existing patch's impact
12:25:16 kashyap That way we have clear evidence.
12:25:55 sean-k-mooney ok i need to go take my blood pressue medication and do a few bits. brb
12:26:08 kashyap Sure, take care! And thanks for the discussion
12:54:51 zigo Last night, we had a case of crash of nova when deleting a VM:
12:54:51 zigo https://paste.opendev.org/show/bRFOvaXxQxs5vVdwzVRV/
12:54:51 zigo one colleague of mine says it's because the image was deleted first. Is he right?
12:55:20 sean-k-mooney no i dont think so
12:55:39 sean-k-mooney this is related to the nvram not the glance/vm disk image
12:55:43 zigo How come Nova can't "undefine domain with nvram" then?
12:56:39 zigo Was this fixed in a version higher than Victoria?
12:56:41 sean-k-mooney it might be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1785123
12:57:06 zigo Oh, thanks.
12:57:18 sean-k-mooney zigo: there have been some nvram/uefi issues fixed since then yes
12:57:52 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/q/project:openstack/nova+nvram
12:58:29 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/335512 that seams to be the most driectly related
12:59:29 zigo It's abandonned though ... :/
12:59:35 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/guest.py#L298
12:59:44 sean-k-mooney yes but the fix was condtionaly added on master
12:59:48 sean-k-mooney if uefi is supported
12:59:56 sean-k-mooney so we fixed it in a differnt patch
13:00:11 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/539d381434ccadcdc3f5d58c2705c35558a3a065
13:00:33 sean-k-mooney hum apparently in ocata
13:00:51 sean-k-mooney zigo: what version of qemu are you using
13:00:55 sean-k-mooney sory libvirt
13:01:14 zigo 7.0.0
13:01:19 zigo (the one from Bullseye)
13:02:28 sean-k-mooney i wonder what support_uefi is set too
13:02:52 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Support unshelve with PCI in placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/854616
13:04:32 sean-k-mooney zigo: so we do this https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/70fd0cfc8ee2b541ffc1f9feb129314965d1670c/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1349-L1351
13:05:54 zigo Victoria has the same code...
13:06:17 zigo So you see... instance.image_meta.properties.get
13:06:30 zigo Is this taken from the *image* ?!?
13:06:58 zigo Or is it a copy of the image meta?
13:07:23 sean-k-mooney a copy but i assume its uefi
13:09:39 sean-k-mooney you might be higing a kernel api change where some parmater changed for 1/0 to y/n
13:09:59 sean-k-mooney can you check the output of virsh domcapabilities
13:11:05 zigo https://paste.opendev.org/show/bEp66voE4chYd3lF3eme/
13:11:10 zigo What am I looking for?
13:12:14 zigo The <os supported='yes'> bits?
13:12:22 sean-k-mooney <loader supported='yes'>
13:12:31 sean-k-mooney line 12
13:12:51 zigo Is it supposed to be 0/1 instead ?
13:13:14 sean-k-mooney no i was thinkin of a change for secure boot
13:13:18 sean-k-mooney which is seperate
13:16:12 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/train: Adapt websocketproxy tests for SimpleHTTPServer fix https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/866201
13:18:09 zigo sean-k-mooney: That bit of code is supposed to remove the disk containing the NVRAM values, right?
13:18:54 sean-k-mooney its not really a disk its a file that is uesd to store the uefi firmware data
13:19:09 zigo Right, that's what I had in mind.
13:19:26 sean-k-mooney but yes its to tell libvirt that its oke to delete the domain
13:19:47 sean-k-mooney inclucding undefining the nvram
13:38:59 zigo According to this patch's patch header https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/621646/ the UEFI NVRAM variable store isn't preserved on stop/start, hard reboot, cold migration, resize and live migration...
13:39:07 zigo Is it still the case?
13:41:17 sean-k-mooney that i am not sure about. i know that was a proablem in the past
13:42:17 sean-k-mooney i think this bug is still a thing
13:42:54 sean-k-mooney honestly i proably should escalte this internally too becasue this keeps getting stalled out
13:43:04 sean-k-mooney the people that started fixing it have moved on form openstack
14:38:03 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Add mock to avoid loading guestfs in unit test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/862769
14:47:09 opendevreview Jorge San Emeterio proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Review usage of oslo-privsep library on Nova https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/865432
15:14:35 dansmith 2023-01-11 07:00:50,878 WARNING [oslo_messaging.rpc.client] Using RPCClient manually to instantiate client. Please use get_rpc_client to obtain an RPC client instance.

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