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#openstack-nova - 2022-06-14
11:34:41 sean-k-mooney mine does not do everythin the current one does
11:34:59 gibi yepp, then we might need a config flag
11:35:04 sean-k-mooney so im wondering if we coudl make it incremental
11:35:40 sean-k-mooney and also have the option to run both as filters
11:35:55 sean-k-mooney so mine currently only handeles hugepages and cpu pinning
11:36:17 sean-k-mooney its missing pci devices and mixed cpus and maybe pmem
11:36:38 sean-k-mooney pmem enabels a numa toplogy but i dont think we provide affintiy for pmem
11:36:57 sean-k-mooney so its reall just mixed mode and pci devices that woudl initally be missing
11:37:38 sean-k-mooney my tought is you coudl enable both filters and have the fast one run first so you woudl only validate the slow hosts if we knew the cpu and ram request were valid
11:38:07 sean-k-mooney s/slow hosts/hosts with the slow version/
11:38:32 gibi overall I'm OK to make it incremental or even selectable, but I'm not sure stable cores will like it
11:38:51 gibi this will include a new bounch of code to stable branches
11:38:54 sean-k-mooney so basicaly you woudl do pci_passthroughfilter,numa_v2,numa_toplogy_filter
11:39:01 gibi that is liability
11:39:09 sean-k-mooney yep
11:39:12 sean-k-mooney it is
11:39:34 gibi what if we just add what we have to master as selectable, then we improve on it later on master
11:39:50 sean-k-mooney we could yes
11:40:07 sean-k-mooney im just trying to think if there is anything we can do to adress the bug report on older branches too
11:40:52 sean-k-mooney i dont think there is anythign trivial that can be fixed on the older brances to make the perfromance accpetabel.
11:41:39 gibi I don't know. maybe we can look at the reproducer in a profiler
11:42:11 sean-k-mooney i think its to do with our usage so itertools permuations
11:42:33 sean-k-mooney we do a liniar loop over all permuations of numa nodes when trying to fit the instance
11:43:06 sean-k-mooney we early out once the instance fits but that is really not efficent with more then a hand full of numa nodes
11:44:37 sean-k-mooney gibi: i can try an take a look at it breifly
11:45:11 gibi sean-k-mooney: only if you want :) I'm not asking to take this
11:45:29 gibi I'm not promising either that I can fire up a profiler today
11:45:36 sean-k-mooney hehe
11:45:44 sean-k-mooney this is not new
11:46:01 sean-k-mooney so i dont think it supper high priority but i was half way thorugh fixing up my vdpa patches
11:46:07 sean-k-mooney so i want to finish those today
11:46:30 sean-k-mooney so im somehwat interested in is there a minimal fix we can do to make ti better
11:46:39 sean-k-mooney i just dont want to spend all day looking at it
11:46:48 sean-k-mooney so ill give it tilll the top of the hour
11:47:07 sean-k-mooney we can take another look later in the week or next week
11:47:36 gibi ack
11:57:21 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Add service version check workaround for FFU https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/844202
11:59:05 gibi :)
11:59:41 sean-k-mooney its amazing how much simpler nova code becomes without eventlets
12:01:11 sean-k-mooney actully there might be a small tweak we can do
12:02:08 sean-k-mooney we currently do this
12:02:10 sean-k-mooney for host_cell_perm in itertools.permutations(
12:02:12 sean-k-mooney host_cells, len(instance_topology)
12:02:14 sean-k-mooney ):
12:02:26 sean-k-mooney so we get the next perumation for the full pinning
12:02:47 sean-k-mooney i wonder if we could do this one numa node at a time
12:03:10 sean-k-mooney so loop over the instnace numa cells
12:03:33 sean-k-mooney and try to pin them one at a time
12:03:36 sean-k-mooney then try to pin the rest
12:04:04 sean-k-mooney i think that would be a lot faster
12:04:36 sean-k-mooney as currently if the first 7 numa nodes are full we have to try all permuations for the 7 numa nodes before we will try the 8th i think
12:05:37 sean-k-mooney if i refactor this we will do 7 test for the first guest numa node it will match on the 8th numa node and then we will try fiting the next numa node
12:05:48 gibi would that just do the permutation generation with loops? sure the order of the search would be different
12:06:10 gibi so it might optimize for the current csae
12:06:11 gibi case
12:06:31 sean-k-mooney the worst case performace woudl still be the same but i think it would imporve best and average case
12:11:03 gibi so we optimize based on some heuristics that the first numa nodes are more likely to be filled than the later numa nodes
12:11:24 sean-k-mooney well until master it did a liniar search
12:11:37 sean-k-mooney so yes the first numa nodes were always filled first deterministically
12:11:51 sean-k-mooney we recently added numa node blancing
12:12:22 gibi true, so using the old linear fill, it make sense to add a heuristics to the search to
12:12:25 gibi o
12:12:44 sean-k-mooney also my entire system just hard locked up while i was debuging that even with it paused
12:12:51 gibi wondering if just simply using permutations(reversed(host_cells)) would be enough to optimize too
12:12:53 sean-k-mooney perhaps i should close some broser tabs
12:13:10 sean-k-mooney well we are not sorting the host_cells
12:13:25 gibi the other day I run out of memory on my laptop, so now I added some swap
12:13:29 sean-k-mooney based on aviable ram disk pci devices and if you asked for them
12:14:00 sean-k-mooney i ran out of swap but still had 8GB of ram free
12:14:31 sean-k-mooney i do have a 2 node devstack and openshift running in 3 8G vms currently too
12:16:17 sean-k-mooney oh my email client is only using 4G of ram today that is nice of it. it was using 15 last week...
12:17:34 sean-k-mooney 1910527.379325] Out of memory: Killed process 1338765 (.qemu-system-x8) total-vm:13382508kB, anon-rss:7832544kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:4kB, UID:0 pgtables:17324kB oom_score_adj:0
12:17:42 sean-k-mooney yep i ran out of memory ill stop the vms for now
12:18:44 sean-k-mooney thats totally a good sign for the effiency fo this code right
12:29:30 sean-k-mooney gibi: :)
12:29:33 sean-k-mooney import nova.conf
12:29:35 sean-k-mooney CONF = nova.conf.CONF
12:29:37 sean-k-mooney CONF.compute.packing_host_numa_cells_allocation_strategy = False
12:29:39 sean-k-mooney that fixes the issue
12:29:58 sean-k-mooney we disable the numa blancing by defualt for "backwards compatiblity"
12:30:31 sean-k-mooney gibi: if you enable it when we sort by free memory all the used nodes go to the end
12:30:41 sean-k-mooney so the first permuation fits
12:31:17 sean-k-mooney [13:30:55]➜ time python t.py
12:31:18 sean-k-mooney InstanceNUMATopology(cells=[InstanceNUMACell(8),InstanceNUMACell(9),InstanceNUMACell(10),InstanceNUMACell(11),InstanceNUMACell(12),InstanceNUMACell(13),InstanceNUMACell(14)],emulator_threads_policy=None,id=<?>,instance_uuid=<?>)
12:31:20 sean-k-mooney real 0m1.489s
12:31:22 sean-k-mooney user 0m1.373s
12:31:24 sean-k-mooney sys 0m0.095s
12:31:44 sean-k-mooney gibi: not as fast as my out of tree version but pretty close
12:31:51 gibi ahh
12:31:53 sean-k-mooney and fully feature complete
12:32:02 gibi that is an easy workaround for the particular case
12:32:43 sean-k-mooney well the spread approch is generaly beter provided you dont need really large vms
12:32:56 sean-k-mooney that depend on fully filling the numa nodes to spawn
12:32:58 sean-k-mooney but yes
12:38:31 sean-k-mooney gibi: ok added a comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1978372/comments/6
12:38:59 sean-k-mooney gibi: we have already started backporting the pack/spread behavior to xena they reported it on wallaby
12:39:22 sean-k-mooney so if we just continue the backport of the sorting behavior we could close it as a dupe i guess
12:39:56 gibi sean-k-mooney: thanks
12:39:56 sean-k-mooney that does raise the question of if we should change the default for pack vs spread on master and or still look at the other implemation in the future
12:40:29 gibi I think we can chance default on master now

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