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#openstack-nova - 2022-02-21
11:52:44 sean-k-mooney perfect
12:00:17 gibi sean-k-mooney: btw the arch OVO backport is also crazyness https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/829989 but I have a totally differnt proposal as a possible direction as a comment within that patch
12:00:59 sean-k-mooney what exactly is that doing?
12:01:25 gibi so the Arch enum got new values
12:01:34 gibi due to the emulation support feature
12:01:35 sean-k-mooney right which should be added at the end
12:01:52 gibi and the ComputeNode object has a list of HVSpec objects with arch values
12:01:54 sean-k-mooney and then you would just raise an error if you try to backport
12:02:04 gibi HVSpec cannot backport itself
12:02:12 gibi the ComputeNode would need to backport it
12:02:24 gibi by removing too new HVSpec instances (with new arch)
12:02:29 gibi but OVO does not cooperate
12:02:33 gibi I even filled https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.versionedobjects/+bug/1961482
12:02:48 gibi so the current patch up above works but ugly as hell
12:02:51 sean-k-mooney am well the compute node would not have the new values if it was not updated
12:03:11 sean-k-mooney and an instance object with the new values shoudl not be sendable to the compute node
12:03:24 gibi there is code path in live migration where an old compute loads the new compute from the DB
12:03:49 sean-k-mooney oh
12:04:00 sean-k-mooney thats a nasty edgecase
12:04:05 gibi grenade caught it
12:04:39 sean-k-mooney right ok so the list object would have to strip the new version instead of raise
12:04:44 gibi yes
12:04:51 gibi but it is really hard to do that with OVO
12:05:02 gibi (see the patch with a ton of comments)
12:05:10 sean-k-mooney i dont think we have had to do that in the past
12:05:19 sean-k-mooney at least i cant think of a case where this has come up
12:05:30 gibi my alternative proposal is not to publish HVSpec objects with new arch values until a min service version check is passed
12:05:43 sean-k-mooney most of the enums we have extended in the past have been only in teh instance object
12:06:01 sean-k-mooney ok ya that would work
12:06:16 sean-k-mooney we often dont enable feature until the cloud is fully upgraded
12:06:52 sean-k-mooney this woudl cause all the compute nodes to update the comptue node table once they are all upgraded
12:06:54 gibi I pulled dansmith into the discussion maybe he sees an easy fix in the OVO support for this case but if not then I will suggest chateaulav to add a service version check instead
12:07:08 sean-k-mooney well maybe not
12:07:30 sean-k-mooney we are extendign the values but that does not mean the compute node would use one of the new values
12:07:45 gibi today it uses in the gate
12:07:57 gibi I haven't checked it what enables all the new arch
12:08:15 sean-k-mooney its likely just the presence fo the qemu binary
12:08:30 sean-k-mooney on ubuntu it installs all of them by default
12:08:57 sean-k-mooney how is this reported in the compute node db recored by the way
12:09:18 sean-k-mooney ah supported_hv_specs
12:09:30 gibi yes, that one
12:10:21 sean-k-mooney i guess we dont wnat to defien that as the host native arch
12:10:32 sean-k-mooney since that would not really help if we had native hosts using one of the new options
12:10:57 gibi it seems the new arch coming from the host cababilities via libvirt
12:11:05 sean-k-mooney yes
12:11:21 sean-k-mooney those are dynmic based on which qemu binaries libvirt finds
12:11:25 gibi ahh I see
12:11:33 gibi the you are right about the binaries
12:12:37 sean-k-mooney technically its dynmaic based on which libvirt virt plugin too e.g. if you install the lxc or openvz plugins they also extend it but in this case its the presence of the riscv emulators
12:13:15 sean-k-mooney ignoring this for a miniute how close do you think the emulation work is for this cycle
12:13:29 sean-k-mooney i think the previous impression i heard was likely not this cycle
12:13:58 sean-k-mooney i am debating if defering the ricsv support woudl help or not
12:14:18 sean-k-mooney that woudl allow use to punt this enum change to next cycle
12:16:35 sean-k-mooney so basically im suggesting that perhaps its better for chateaulav to focus on the arm and mips supprot this cycle and we can adress teh riscv supprot next cycel btu if we dont think the code is likely to land before thruday which i gusse is unlikely it proably is not worth spliting it out
12:25:00 gibi sean-k-mooney: good point. I think the series is in an OK shape overall
12:25:21 gibi so if we could remove the OVO backport pain by not adding risc then we can land it this week I believe
12:26:22 gibi bauzas, melwitt: there is a gate bug on nova that is a duplicate of a gate bug in neutron https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1959349 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1940425 but if I mark the newer bug as duplicate then we loose the tracking of it
12:26:51 gibi bauzas, melwitt: is it OK if I mark it duplicate and then add nova as affected to the eariler neutron bug?
12:27:06 sean-k-mooney gibi: riscv was not orgianlly on there list i suggeted it be added since i tought that would be one of the more useful targets
12:27:20 gibi sean-k-mooney: OK, then I think it make sense to split it out
12:27:21 sean-k-mooney gibi: so defering that i dont think woudl compropise there usecase
12:27:30 gibi OK
12:28:00 gibi chateaulav: ^^ I know that it is again a change in direction but could you remove the riscv support from the series. that way we can avoid the ovo backport pain
12:28:05 sean-k-mooney chateaulav: ^ at the end fo the day the descion is yours
12:28:12 gibi sean-k-mooney: +1
12:35:52 chateaulav Lol. Yeah I think that will be better overall gibi, I agree with sean-k-mooney that I can look at doing that for next cycle. It seems as though there are also some things in the work for the riscv firmware community that may be needed. Overall initial support will be arm, s390x, ppc, and potentially mips if I can solve the pci issue. So not bad, if you ask me, for initial release of emulation
12:36:18 gibi chateaulav: cool
12:36:52 gibi sean-k-mooney: filed the bug for the pci.utils networking.neutron coupling issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1961587
12:59:47 sean-k-mooney ack just triaged it
13:43:45 gibi thanks
14:22:06 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1960412 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/830010
14:25:12 opendevreview Alexey Stupnikov proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional tests to reproduce bug #1960412 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/830010
14:38:27 sean-k-mooney gibi: have i mentioned how much i hate the fact that gerrit forward ports comments now
14:38:37 sean-k-mooney its such a ux regressions
14:38:59 gibi it is only a problem iff we forget to close the comments when they are solved
14:39:18 sean-k-mooney liek these ones https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/821606/10/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/lightos.py
14:39:35 sean-k-mooney gibi: also this has been retoactivly enabeld for all reviews in the past
14:39:51 gibi yeah, that retroactive thing is a pain I agree
14:40:03 sean-k-mooney so if we lookup a revew becasue we are lookign at git blame we will now get all the unresoved ones where the feature did not exist
14:41:04 sean-k-mooney im going to ack most of the commend on that once i check them but to me this breaks the workflow since if the converation is happenign betwen reviewrs rather then just the revier and authour
14:44:17 gibi yeah
14:44:44 gibi not optimal but in the other hand it helps when people only fix a set of comments and forget the rest
14:44:49 gibi and push a new PS
14:45:16 sean-k-mooney yes and know. it can but over all i think this is a more harmful change then good
14:45:41 gibi It forces me to close comment when they fixed or answered
14:45:50 gibi I think in time we can learn to use it well
14:45:54 sean-k-mooney right but i dont think you should have to do that
14:46:10 sean-k-mooney i am hoping we will get the option to disable it personlly
14:46:48 sean-k-mooney its the frist time that gerrit has made a change that has made me consider if we shoudl continue to use gerrit longterm
14:47:14 sean-k-mooney to me the fact that comments were pined to reveriosn was one of the big benifits for using gerrit
14:47:17 sean-k-mooney this regresses that
14:48:00 sean-k-mooney i can see the beniftis too but to me in its current form the beiftis do not outway the downside
14:48:21 gibi hm, maybe a toggle in the UX to show / hide the old PS comments can be a compromise
14:48:32 opendevreview yuval proposed openstack/nova master: Lightbits LightOS driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/821606
14:48:38 sean-k-mooney if it only forward ported the comment that refered to lines that were modified in the next revision i could proably live with that
14:49:35 yuval_ gibi sean-k-mooney thanks for the fast reply!
14:49:41 sean-k-mooney like its infurating that i have to load back up ps 8 to see why they refer too
14:50:53 gibi yuval_: will check the last version before end of my day
14:52:16 yuval_ thanks, I just updated as sean-k-mooney suggested the req file and lower constraints
14:52:23 yuval_ to see zuul pass

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