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#openstack-nova - 2021-11-25
08:50:42 nautik Hello! I updated a merge request from a few months ago and it seems there is a "DellEMC PowerFlex CI" build failing with a message "EMC_PowerFlex_NOVA [...] : NOT_REGISTERED". Other builds (VMware, IBM...) succeeded.
08:50:56 nautik is that expected or should I do something about it?
08:50:59 nautik the mr is https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/781076
08:56:24 frickler nautik: that means that this 3rd party CI is offline. not related to your patch, nothing you can do about it
08:57:26 frickler except possibly trying to contact the CI operators, but that task should be on the nova team in general, not on you as patch author
09:07:01 nautik ok cool! thank you for the feedback, then this MR is ready for review
09:07:42 nautik (not sure if I need to add some tags or do anything more to make it visible?)
09:11:44 frickler nautik: just give it a couple of days, this week is also holiday season in some parts of the world. I there is no response after that, you could try pinging folks here again
09:12:06 frickler s/I/If/
09:15:39 nautik right, forgot that! Thank you and have a good day :)
12:17:37 opendevreview Dmitrii Shcherbakov proposed openstack/nova master: [yoga] Support remote-managed SmartNIC DPU ports https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/812111
13:05:57 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Retry image download if it's corrupted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818503
13:44:16 sdmitriev1 mnaser: good call, will look into that
13:55:13 opendevreview Stanislav Dmitriev proposed openstack/nova stable/xena: Retry image download if it's corrupted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819179
13:55:27 opendevreview Stanislav Dmitriev proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Retry image download if it's corrupted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819180
13:55:39 opendevreview Stanislav Dmitriev proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Retry image download if it's corrupted https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819181
14:09:24 lyarwood gibi: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818357 would you mind taking a look at this?
14:09:29 gibi sure
14:11:51 gibi done
14:11:55 gibi thanks for updating our docs
15:07:11 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/xena: Ensure MAC addresses characters are in the same case https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/816882
15:52:21 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817303
15:52:22 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try disabling bind-time events https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819349
16:00:41 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817303
16:00:41 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try disabling bind-time events https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819349
16:21:43 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817303
16:21:58 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try disabling bind-time events https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819349
16:56:51 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Updating tests with Yoga testing runtime https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819194
17:38:34 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Updating tests with Yoga testing runtime https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819194
17:40:51 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: docs: Update libvirt distro support matrix for Xena https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818357
17:44:40 EugenMayer What are the thoughs about moving secrets into the meta-data service which are shared e.g. by cluster nodes? Is this considered heavily unsecure? AFAIC each instance can only access it's own meta-data and cannot read any other instance meta-data, right? (Is this actually a nova or neutron question?)
18:16:13 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817303
18:16:14 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try disabling bind-time events https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819349
18:16:34 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: am well you are partly correct
18:16:49 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: ech isntance is only able to access its onw metadata
18:16:59 sean-k-mooney however the metadata is also avaiable vai the api
18:17:20 sean-k-mooney so anywone in the project can access it via the api
18:17:30 EugenMayer yes sure, every openstack admin cann access it .. but this one can also simply access the storage and read anything.
18:17:45 sean-k-mooney we also do not encypty the metaddat in any way in the nova db or when its sent to the instance
18:18:11 EugenMayer I understand. It is plain text, send plain text
18:18:21 sean-k-mooney yep
18:18:38 sean-k-mooney so as an end user you can do this but you really shoudl use barbican
18:19:00 sean-k-mooney https://docs.openstack.org/barbican/latest/
18:19:25 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: it provices and implementation fo a secure key manager which user and openstack can use
18:19:29 EugenMayer interesting - usually i would rather use vault
18:20:54 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: it has a vault plugin
18:21:05 sean-k-mooney https://docs.openstack.org/barbican/latest/configuration/plugin_backends.html#enabling-multiple-barbican-backends
18:21:18 EugenMayer what is the actually key USP of barbican compared to vault? Is there any auto-scoping of instances into "their namespace" or something like that? If it is just "if you have a speciifc token you can check in a secret KV for values you are interested in" i rather would use vault
18:21:19 EugenMayer i see
18:23:15 EugenMayer sean-k-mooney: i know i repeat myself - but nevertheless, thank you very much!
18:23:16 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: basically openstack a as a project has decalred that we will not manage securets in each project
18:23:39 sean-k-mooney we use castellan to provide a generic key manager https://github.com/openstack/castellan
18:24:06 sean-k-mooney and then barbican provides a secrets as a service api that endusers or sevices can use
18:24:34 sean-k-mooney castellan support barbican as a secret store and barbican support several backend to actully store the secrets
18:25:11 EugenMayer I'am yet not sure i will need either of this. all secrets except this one are handled in k8s, this one is just to provision rke2. So i might stick to a chef-databag here since i use it to provision rke2 anyway
18:25:48 sean-k-mooney if you dont need to expose secrets as a service via openstack by the way castalan can also use vault directly
18:25:55 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/castellan/blob/master/castellan/key_manager/vault_key_manager.py
18:27:10 EugenMayer interesting, simple wrapper to read/write from the KV
18:27:43 sean-k-mooney https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#key_manager.backend you just ned to set that to valult and populate the related config options that are needed
18:28:24 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: i dont know how much its used/tested
18:29:12 sean-k-mooney i dont often work on this part of the code but hoefully that helps
18:29:22 EugenMayer I would not go the wrapper, arround the wrapper arround the wrapper way for this. If i need this, i will stick to vault directly IMHO. But it def. is good to know how things are handled and valued in the ecosystem
18:30:10 EugenMayer meta-data is plaintext only, eventhough per instance, can be exploited if having enough API access (obviously). barbican to the rescue, will require a token to read from the storage, so knowledge required
18:30:34 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: metadata will also show up in your debug logs in some cases
18:30:47 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Add nova-ovs-hybrid-plug job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817303
18:30:48 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: DNM: Try disabling bind-time events https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819349
18:31:07 sean-k-mooney so its really not intended for private stuff
18:32:01 sean-k-mooney EugenMayer: also just so you are aware instance metadta is included in nova notificaitons
18:33:02 sean-k-mooney amqp is ment to be secured because it contains sensitive things but its just more reason not to store passwords/keys in it if you can avoid it
18:35:50 EugenMayer understood, thank you!
18:50:48 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate the zvm driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819365
18:55:16 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate the powervm driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819366
18:56:38 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate the zvm driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819365
19:01:12 artom Zombie developer removing zombie code
19:22:45 stephenfin mmm, brainz
19:50:03 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: db: Don't use legacy 'Row()' methods https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/817746
#openstack-nova - 2021-11-26
01:15:42 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Introduce 'admin' policy base rule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819389
01:22:36 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Introduce 'admin' policy base rule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819389
01:44:25 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Convert aggregate policies to admin and system scope https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819390
01:56:38 opendevreview Ghanshyam proposed openstack/nova master: Introduce 'admin' policy base rule https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819389
02:00:55 gmann dansmith: gibi bauzas I registered the nova BP for the RBAC goal. please let me know if I need to add spec or specless BP (with all direction defined in community wide goal) can be approved https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-defaults-refresh-2
02:03:08 gmann dansmith: gibi bauzas I mean all the direction are defined in goal itself so we can do audit of nova policy changes in proposed code itself or in wiki page before we code - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/rbac
02:03:24 gmann johnthetubaguy[m]: ^^
08:25:11 lyarwood gibi / bauzas ; https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/819194 - would be good to get your thoughts on this btw
08:32:20 gibi lyarwood: do we want nova-tox-functional-centos8-py36 to be changed to run on py38? or that would require centos9?
08:32:56 lyarwood gibi: We can drop centos8-stream jobs entirely from master as the supported runtime is moving to 9
08:33:24 lyarwood gibi: and yeah 9 then brings py39 iirc
08:34:00 gibi lyarwood: so then what I see in that change is consistent with the global testing runtime change
08:34:12 gibi lyarwood: do you have some reservation about this change/
08:34:12 gibi ?
08:34:35 lyarwood gibi: Nope I'm good with it, gmann just had reservations so I wanted more people to chime in
08:35:01 lyarwood IMHO we should remove as much overhead as possible and that includes support/test runs for older runtimes
08:40:50 gibi lyarwood: OK, I gave +2, I agree with you that we need to force py38+ in the setup.cfg
08:41:12 lyarwood ack thanks, lets see what bauzas says as PTL before we +W
08:41:25 gibi sure
08:42:21 gibi stephenfin: as a fun note there is blue: https://blue.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ it is almost like black :D
08:42:42 lyarwood flol I love that logo
08:43:01 gibi I laught a lot the other day when somebody linked it in twitter
08:51:00 gibi I went and +2d the other yoga testing runtime changes under our jurisdiction
08:56:25 kashyap TIL; "blue"

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