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#openstack-nova - 2021-11-19
15:12:41 bauzas folks, have a good weekend
15:21:13 gibi bauzas: o/
15:21:15 gibi same to you
15:33:14 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818564
16:05:08 opendevreview Gustavo Santos proposed openstack/nova master: Reattach mdevs to guest on resume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/815373
16:34:55 opendevreview Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use unittest.mock instead of third party mock https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/714676
16:42:06 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/train: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818598
16:50:18 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: api-ref: server rescue adminPass injection is conf-dependant https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818022
16:51:30 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/stein: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818601
16:53:39 opendevreview Dmitrii Shcherbakov proposed openstack/nova master: [yoga] Add PCI VPD Capability Handling https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/808199
16:53:40 opendevreview Dmitrii Shcherbakov proposed openstack/nova master: [yoga] Support remote-managed SmartNIC DPU ports https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/812111
16:56:34 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818604
17:00:05 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818605
17:05:21 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818604
17:07:41 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818605
17:09:59 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/818605
17:13:17 opendevreview Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add a WA flag waiting for vif-plugged event during reboot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/813437
17:54:38 johnthetubaguy[m] dansmith: just had a thought, if you delete a project in keystone, but now you need a project token to delete a server, the operator could get in quite a bad place now? Or is there something I am missing there?
17:55:28 dansmith johnsom: hmm
17:56:29 johnsom dansmith Wrong nic? o/ John
17:56:43 dansmith yes, sorry
17:56:50 dansmith johnthetubaguy[m]: hmm
17:57:00 johnsom NP
17:57:19 sean-k-mooney johnthetubaguy[m]: ya even domain scopetd tokens wont work
17:57:29 sean-k-mooney cause the proejct is gone
17:57:37 sean-k-mooney can we just say dont do that :P
17:57:47 dansmith yeah, they'd still be able to list those instances,
17:57:49 johnthetubaguy[m] ... now I think you create a project with a known uuid, but not if you deleted an old one
17:58:09 johnthetubaguy[m] yeah, you can still see them and find the project uuid at least
17:58:12 sean-k-mooney johnthetubaguy[m]: i tought the uuid was not user setable when creating users and proejcts
17:58:18 dansmith but we'd have to have some workaround, like if you delete with a domain scoped token, use the project id of the instance while deleting or something
17:58:36 dansmith I think deleing projects in keystone before the resources are cleaned up is a general problem too right?
17:58:41 dansmith like, because you have to remember to do that today
17:58:47 johnthetubaguy[m] sean-k-mooney: just checking, I remember it being wanted for region <-> region sync
17:58:48 dansmith s/that/that cleanup/
17:59:25 johnthetubaguy[m] I mean, its about getting a token for the correct project uuid, maybe that is allowed for deleted ones in certain cases, possibly...
17:59:30 sean-k-mooney dansmith: well because admin is god today i think you can fix some of those issue on a project by project basis
17:59:56 dansmith sean-k-mooney: right I know today it works
17:59:56 sean-k-mooney as in most porject allow you to list reouces by projects
18:00:18 johnthetubaguy[m] (as an aside, why my brain thinks up these things at 6pm on a Friday, is beyond me!)
18:00:20 opendevreview Gustavo Santos proposed openstack/nova master: Reattach mdevs to guest on resume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/815373
18:01:13 sean-k-mooney johnthetubaguy[m]: part of the probelm is there is nothing keystone can do to prevent you deleteing the project as it never know if its in use today
18:01:44 sean-k-mooney well unified limits/placment might help
18:01:50 johnthetubaguy[m] yeah, its nasty, I remember the os-purge discussions in berlin (and a few other places)
18:02:01 sean-k-mooney but we dont track all resouce in palcment so not really
18:02:29 johnthetubaguy[m] sean-k-mooney: you are correct on the uuid thing, we don't allow that in create (yet!) https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/identity/v3/index.html?expanded=create-project-detail#create-project
18:02:49 dansmith having to re-create the project to clean up the resources is pretty gross anyway,
18:02:57 dansmith so I don't know that we should depend on that for this problem
18:03:57 johnthetubaguy[m] yeah, I was more fixed on: "how to get me a project xyz token again", and possible ways to do that, which might be the wrong question
18:04:14 dansmith right I know
18:04:28 dansmith so, even though it's a hack,
18:04:39 dansmith if you show up with a domain-scoped token trying to delete an instance,
18:04:46 dansmith oh actually,
18:05:09 sean-k-mooney ithe issue with domain is the project is not part of the domain anymore
18:05:13 dansmith I was about to say "we can do the same is this instance in this domain? yes? then delete and use context.project_id=instance.project_id"
18:05:16 sean-k-mooney sicne we deleted it
18:05:16 opendevreview Gustavo Santos proposed openstack/nova master: Reattach mdevs to guest on resume https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/815373
18:05:18 dansmith but we don't know what domain it was from
18:05:18 dansmith right
18:05:45 sean-k-mooney so we could start storign the domain in nova
18:05:57 johnthetubaguy[m] although then if I delete a federation domain, then go whoops lots of instances, we might be back in the same problem
18:06:08 sean-k-mooney then we can say ha you are a domain admin and this belogs to that domain so sure delete away
18:06:08 dansmith well, right so that would be the longer-term "nova actually knows about domains" thing
18:06:27 johnthetubaguy[m] I don't mind going to keystone for the project_id doesn't match and you are a domain token case, its admin, doesn't need to be that efficient?
18:06:27 dansmith sean-k-mooney: yep
18:06:46 dansmith johnthetubaguy[m]: but the project is gone, so we can't tell if the project is in the domain you're in
18:06:53 dansmith because we can't look it up anymore
18:07:01 sean-k-mooney keystone dose not allwo you to move projet between domains right
18:07:02 johnthetubaguy[m] doh, of course
18:07:08 dansmith (unless it's soft-deleted in keystone?)
18:07:51 johnthetubaguy[m] although if you delete the domain as well? (like delete the customer that had its own domain, or delete some federation thing)
18:08:24 sean-k-mooney johnthetubaguy[m]: we would need to use a system scopted token or a new type of token at that point
18:08:26 dansmith johnthetubaguy[m]: even the old plan of system scoped users being god has this same problem really.. we'd still need to do something hacky to decide what project_id to record in the instance action, since that non-project god user showed up to delete it
18:09:11 dansmith we'd know you have permission because you're god, but the delete would 500 today until we fix the assumption that project_id!=None
18:09:17 sean-k-mooney well yes but we could use all 0 as you have suggesed before
18:09:21 johnthetubaguy[m] I mean we have the all zeros project uuid to play with, but maybe this only matters to the delete call?
18:09:37 johnthetubaguy[m] at least its a super edge case
18:09:42 dansmith sean-k-mooney: right, point being that same hack/workaround would have been needed anyway
18:10:06 sean-k-mooney yep and we also have the problem of deleteing the nova created resocues in other projects
18:10:15 sean-k-mooney which might just be the vms prots
18:10:16 dansmith true
18:10:26 sean-k-mooney althoguh bfv so also cinder
18:10:36 johnthetubaguy[m] hmm, very true
18:11:07 sean-k-mooney we could use our admin token for those service if we needed too in this case but im not sure that will work
18:11:29 sean-k-mooney if we assume our neutron section has a domain scoped admin token on the root domain
18:11:39 sean-k-mooney since the project is gone it will still be invalid
18:12:20 dansmith the whole project deletion before cleanup thing is really pretty problematic
18:12:23 sean-k-mooney maybe we need to jsut check "has role admin and project does not exist"
18:12:40 dansmith well, that's a good thought
18:12:50 dansmith it's a little more power than you expect
18:12:55 sean-k-mooney we are defineing admin now as alwasy the oeprator of the cloud right
18:13:07 dansmith today all domain admins are pretty much powerful across the hierarchy until nova knows about domains itself
18:13:11 dansmith so maybe that's not so bad?
18:14:19 johnthetubaguy[m] how do we know the poject doesn't exist? we go check keystone in the case where context.project_id != instance.project_id ?
18:14:39 dansmith you show up for the delete with a domain token,
18:14:45 dansmith which means we go to do the "is this in your domain" check,
18:14:49 johnthetubaguy[m] ah, only with domain tokens, right
18:14:51 dansmith and if the project is 404 we assume yes
18:15:35 johnthetubaguy[m] ah, right, I quite like that 🤔
18:15:45 dansmith and in the future,

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