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#openstack-nova - 2021-09-14
15:48:29 gibi nova meeting starts in 12 minutes here in the channel
16:00:05 gibi #startmeeting nova
16:00:05 opendevmeet Meeting started Tue Sep 14 16:00:05 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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16:00:07 gibi o/
16:01:04 elodilles o/
16:02:59 gibi lets wait a bit for the others
16:05:32 gibi if only elodilles and me are here then I will be extra quick
16:06:08 gibi so we have to cut RC1 this week
16:06:36 gibi release tracking etherpad is here https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-xena-rc-potential
16:06:44 gibi please review the reno prelude before Friday
16:06:51 gibi prelude: #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/807786
16:07:12 gibi that is the only thing I'm tracking as still have to land before RC1
16:07:46 gibi I looked at the untriaged backlog and I don't see any obvious regression for xena
16:07:57 gibi if you do have such bug / fix then let me know
16:08:04 sean-k-mooney oh o/
16:08:12 gibi sean-k-mooney: o/
16:08:17 sean-k-mooney im here but a litte distracted
16:08:30 gibi that was all important I wanted to say
16:08:38 gibi elodilles, sean-k-mooney: is there anything to discuss?
16:08:57 elodilles one thing regarding stable
16:09:13 gibi go
16:09:16 sean-k-mooney ah tere was a question about when to do the next stable release right
16:09:18 elodilles yesterday we got a question whether we are planning to release
16:09:22 elodilles on stable
16:09:34 elodilles sean-k-mooney: that's it :)
16:09:46 elodilles last release was exactly 2 months ago
16:10:00 elodilles so I guess we could prepare releases
16:10:04 gibi I'm happy to check release patches but I think I lost my PTL approve power since the election results were merged
16:10:24 elodilles that's probably true :)
16:10:30 sean-k-mooney do we want to wait until after rc1 is out and done with
16:10:30 gibi so you have to ping bauzas to approve them
16:10:43 elodilles then we need bauzas either as PTL or as release liaison :)
16:11:04 gibi hopefully somebody can take the release liason over from bauzas
16:11:08 elodilles (he owns both role now)
16:11:10 gibi sean-k-mooney: is there a connection?
16:11:35 sean-k-mooney just gate capastity so no not really
16:11:43 elodilles and sean-k-mooney question is the next one: do we want to wait for something?
16:12:06 sean-k-mooney we might want to wait for the open redirect cve fixes
16:12:15 elodilles if not, then I can prepare the releases today or tomorrow
16:12:21 sean-k-mooney thats really the only thing im thinking of
16:13:05 sean-k-mooney they are merged to usuri i think so we could start with W->U
16:13:05 elodilles sean-k-mooney: some part are merged back till ussuri,
16:13:25 elodilles but if i'm not mistaken there is one part which is still waiting for review in victoria
16:13:27 sean-k-mooney and and do train after
16:13:45 sean-k-mooney ah right for the /// case
16:13:47 elodilles (reminder: train is EM, so there won't be any release)
16:13:56 sean-k-mooney ah ok cool
16:14:11 gibi I agree to release Wallaby now, then land the cve last fix to V and release that
16:14:17 elodilles https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/806626
16:14:25 elodilles this needs stable review ^^^
16:14:30 gibi then backort the last cve fix to U etc.
16:14:37 elodilles and the also ussuri version of it
16:14:47 gibi can I get stable power?
16:14:54 gibi ;)
16:14:58 elodilles :]
16:15:30 sean-k-mooney ok so are we agreed we shoudl merge those then release them
16:15:37 sean-k-mooney once we get the ack for bauzas
16:15:51 elodilles sounds good to me
16:16:02 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: melwitt if you have time to review those on stable that would also help
16:16:58 elodilles yes, reviews are welcome and appreciated for those patches
16:17:42 sean-k-mooney if there is nothing else we can likely wrap the meeting there
16:17:57 gibi yeah
16:17:59 gibi anything else?
16:18:08 elodilles nothing from me :X
16:18:25 gibi then lets close this
16:18:30 gibi #endmeeting
16:18:30 opendevmeet Meeting ended Tue Sep 14 16:18:30 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
16:18:30 opendevmeet Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-09-14-16.00.html
16:18:30 opendevmeet Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-09-14-16.00.txt
16:18:30 opendevmeet Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-09-14-16.00.log.html
16:20:44 gibi thanks
16:21:16 elodilles thanks o/
16:37:25 artom elodilles, while we're kinda on the topic (con't from the meeting, sorta), could you give an opinion on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/791481 ?
16:38:19 artom It's "blocking" a few backports, so it'd be good to get fixed on whether it's get-in-able or not
16:40:49 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: fixtures: Handle binding of first port https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/796905
16:40:50 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Neutron fixture: don't clobber profile and vif_details if empty https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/796906
16:40:51 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: functional: Add live migration tests for PCI, SR-IOV servers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/796907
16:40:53 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Test SRIOV port move operations with PCI conflicts https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/796908
16:40:55 opendevreview Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova stable/victoria: Update SRIOV port pci_slot when unshelving https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/796909
16:40:56 artom For now I've just stacked on top
17:04:34 elodilles artom: well, it's test-only so that's good. on the other hand it is just refactoring (which is usually refused to accept as valid backport - if it's not some trivial change), thus I think it's not really "blocking". I understand that it makes backporting easier for some cases, but...
17:05:48 artom elodilles, so the alternative is that every backport that goes back to train (and Red Hat has to care about stable/train for a loooon time) is harder to write and review because it'll have a note about having to adjust method params or w/e
17:06:54 elodilles well, there will be ONE point where a patch needs modification / resolve of conflicts, but further back it can be still clean
17:07:31 artom elodilles, right, I meant in the sense that *every* patch going back to train will need that modification
17:07:49 artom As opposed to landing the test refactor and forgetting about it
17:08:45 elodilles let's say if we backport it till train then a patch that needs backport to stein will need the very same modification (though I understand that stein expects way less backports)
17:09:32 artom elodilles, ah, I see your point. We'd just be pushing back the point at which we need manual adjustments to the backport
17:10:16 elodilles exactly
17:10:41 artom I agree, I just don't know how much of an issue it will be in practice...
17:11:31 elodilles it depends on the amount of similar patches I think :)
17:11:42 artom elodilles, so, you have more experience reviewing stable branches, what would you say the ratio of RH to non-RH backports is?
17:12:28 elodilles definitely RH wins over non-RH, that's true :)
17:12:28 artom Or to put it slightly different, RH care about stable/train (queens is still a thing, though we expect way less work on it now)
17:13:05 artom I'm trying to tread carefully here, because this is *not* just throwing our weight around
17:13:36 artom If CERN (to name a random example) or Vexxhost or whoever are still running stein a need loads of backports to it, it's a different conversation
17:16:45 elodilles anyway, I'm not completely against backporting this, I'm just thinking as well where is the line and maybe this is somewhere there :)
17:17:44 artom_ But if stable/train happens to be the stable branch that's most popular by virtue of being what RH supports, it would make sense to me to make backports to train as easy as possible? <-- repeating myself in case it didn't send before my connection dropped
17:17:55 mnaser artom: thanks for thinking of us :) we don't care about stein anymore (thankfully :])

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