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#openstack-nova - 2021-07-26
16:09:17 sean-k-mooney its only used in one place https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/volume/test_cinder.py#L892
16:09:36 sean-k-mooney and the usage looks compatible
16:11:05 sean-k-mooney prometheanfire: ill quickly swap it to v3 and see if that fixes it
16:12:32 lyarwood tbh I think you can drop the version entirely
16:12:58 lyarwood ah maybe not
16:13:03 sean-k-mooney i dont see a proxy import
16:13:33 sean-k-mooney there is noting in https://github.com/openstack/python-cinderclient/blob/stable/wallaby/cinderclient/__init__.py
16:13:37 lyarwood right I assumed there would be one
16:13:44 lyarwood something to fup in cinderclient later
16:13:58 sean-k-mooney s/proxy import/alias/
16:14:21 gmann yeah, for now we can just replace it to v3
16:14:42 sean-k-mooney yep just running that locall and ill push a patch in a second
16:15:05 gmann ok, I will stop then.
16:17:00 opendevreview sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: use cinder v3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/802334
16:18:00 sean-k-mooney prometheanfire: if you put a depends on against ^ then the other patch should pass
16:20:17 sean-k-mooney looking at codesearch https://codesearch.opendev.org/?q=cinderclient.v2&i=nope&files=&excludeFiles=&repos= that is the only usage in nova but there are other project that still use v2
17:10:37 prometheanfire sean-k-mooney: thanks
17:51:00 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova stable/victoria: Reject open redirection in the console proxy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/791805
17:51:07 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Add tests for 'AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/754115
17:51:16 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: Add tests for 'AggregateInstanceExtraSpecsFilter' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/754116
17:51:26 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: use cinder v3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/802334
19:27:00 opendevreview melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/ussuri: Reject open redirection in the console proxy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/791806
19:45:19 opendevreview Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Always delegate OVS plug to os-vif https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/797428
#openstack-nova - 2021-07-27
02:00:27 opendevreview Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Use Block Storage API v3 instead of API v2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/802417
08:40:23 MrClayPole Time appropriate greetings, we have a company policy for all network and compute devices have their timezone set to UTC time. The issue we have is that during the summer in the UK we have our clocks set to UTC+1. Our Windows servers are currently booting with clock 1 hour in the past. Is there a way for libvirt/nova to track our timezone while keeping Ubuntu 18.04 set to UTC time?
08:43:25 lyarwood MrClayPole: are you using os_type=windows for the images?
08:43:39 lyarwood https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1231254 a slightly old bug but I wonder if it still applies
08:45:02 lyarwood https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#time-keeping would be how libvirt controls this FWIW
08:46:00 lyarwood https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/1c490ecd7be5722c6cfdaddfacc8d7a5539dd035/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L5792-L5806 is where we switch to localtime when os_type=windows
08:46:05 lyarwood instead of utc
08:47:59 lyarwood ah right but your hosts remain on UTC so that isn't useful
08:56:05 MrClayPole lyarwood: We are running OpenStack rocky, as you said the os_type didn't help but it's interesting that libvirt xml supports a timezone. Can this be set from Nova?
08:57:56 lyarwood MrClayPole: not at the moment AFAICT, we have all of the config code just no way for a user to request it
08:59:05 MrClayPole I wondering if the best way forward might just be to have an exception for our compute nodes so they can bet set to "Europe/London" rather than UTC
08:59:37 lyarwood Yeah for your env on Rocky that would be for the best
09:00:08 lyarwood For the Yoga OpenStack release we could easily add an image property to control the timezone directly
09:02:27 MrClayPole That would defo be useful to us so we can revert the compute nodes back to UTC.
09:15:47 stephenfin bauzas: gate fix for novaclient here if you have 2
09:15:48 stephenfin https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-novaclient/+/802417
09:16:02 bauzas stephenfin: we have a gate issue ?
09:16:12 stephenfin Yes, a very slight one due to cinderclient's removal of cinder API v2
09:16:46 stephenfin Spotted after reading through Takashi Kajinami's email to openstack-discuss ("[all] Broken gate caused by Block Storage API v2 removal")
09:16:46 bauzas stephenfin: any bug y'know ?
09:16:54 bauzas ahah
09:17:23 stephenfin lots of related patches available also https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22volumev2-removal%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)
09:18:09 bauzas I just read the email, I don't see failing jobs
09:18:49 bauzas hah
09:19:15 lyarwood stephenfin: ACK'd the novaclient change
09:19:24 stephenfin ty!
09:20:59 bauzas are we sure that the v3 client supports the same than for the v2 ?
09:21:09 bauzas lyarwood: ^
09:21:20 lyarwood bauzas: yeah it does
09:22:03 bauzas ok, I was a bit afraid of just using the new version without making sure it wasn't creating problems for us
09:22:19 bauzas but if it doesn't change our client API, fair enough
09:22:26 lyarwood https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/block-storage/api_microversion_history.html#maximum-in-mitaka
09:22:42 lyarwood The 3.0 Cinder API includes all v2 core APIs existing prior to the introduction of microversions. The /v3 URL is used to call 3.0 APIs. This is the initial version of the Cinder API which supports microversions.
09:26:41 sean-k-mooney it looks like in most cases the convertion to v3 is trivial as a result
09:26:57 bauzas lyarwood: thanks
09:29:04 sean-k-mooney MrClayPole: im not sure th at nova should really provide a facility to set a timezone
09:29:35 sean-k-mooney at least not at the host level provbly not ant the image or flaovr level. although im more open to the image idea
09:30:20 sean-k-mooney if we were to suprot settign a time zone i think i would want it to be per instance hosetly but really i think that woule be better handeles withine the workload
09:30:38 sean-k-mooney just always set your host to utc
09:31:09 sean-k-mooney and in windows set the timezone appropreiately if needed
09:32:06 CeeMac sean-k-mooney: thats exactly the issues we have at the moment though. The host is set to utc and windows seems locked to that, so during DST the guest still runs -1 hour instead of updating.
09:32:54 CeeMac i must confess I'm a little perplexed as I was expecting the os_type=windows to resolve the issue, but this doesn't appear to be the case
09:35:21 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: you should be able to set the time in windows the clock source will by utc
09:35:35 sean-k-mooney but in windows itself you can change the local
09:36:09 CeeMac sean-k-mooney: yes, "should" appears to be the main issues here as that was my expectation, but the results don't appear to support this :(
09:36:16 sean-k-mooney are you saying if you go into the region settign in windows it does not work?
09:36:43 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: that sound like a windows bug you should report to microsoft
09:36:54 CeeMac our guest VMs are all set to BST (UTC+1) and the system clock is reporting UTC+0 times, so they're all an hour in the past
09:37:07 sean-k-mooney in a cloud enviornemt you cannot know the timezone of the tenant
09:37:17 sean-k-mooney so you shoudl always be abel to set it indepenently of the host
09:37:52 CeeMac it appears to be a known issue around how windows handles time from the bios clock, which i believe is the entire premise on why the os_type=windows patch was ported from hyper-v hypervisor to kvm hypervisor in nova
09:37:59 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: for what its worth i hate daylight saving time so im glad ill by on utc permently next year
09:38:06 CeeMac sean-k-mooney: yeah, thats the dream!
09:38:28 CeeMac yeah, can't say I'm a big fan either. its those pesky customers who are complaining :)
09:38:35 sean-k-mooney well os_type=windows does other things too
09:38:40 sean-k-mooney but that patch yes
09:39:31 sean-k-mooney although when we use os_type=windows it shoudl enabel the hyperv clock
09:39:42 CeeMac from what I gather, there is a reg hack that resolves the problem, but microsoft wont support it and say it is "buggy", whatever that means
09:39:50 sean-k-mooney which clock is this changing
09:39:58 sean-k-mooney we have multipel clock source i think in the vm
09:40:28 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: why not set the windows vms to utc
09:40:43 CeeMac i've seen the <timer name='hypervclock' present='yes'/>
09:40:43 CeeMac get added to the clock offset stanza for instances with os_type=windows
09:40:43 sean-k-mooney you can disable DST in them
09:41:11 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: ill pretend your not altering the xml :)
09:41:27 CeeMac sean-k-mooney: its ok, i'm not, i'm just looking at it with dumpxml
09:41:31 CeeMac :)
09:42:07 sean-k-mooney so we have offset and timezone https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/config.py#L703-L705
09:42:35 CeeMac so, the issue we're looking at currently, is a hosted platform for a customer clocking / time management systems. Presumably they want/need the clock in / clock out times to register against the correct regional time for accurate reporting
09:44:28 sean-k-mooney and then we add the hyperv clock source https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L5840-L5844 in addation to the pit, rtc and optionally the hpet
09:45:13 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: right but the normal way to do that is to use UTC and then do the conversion client side
09:45:40 sean-k-mooney you should never store data in local time
09:46:05 CeeMac tbh, until we came across this issues it was always my belief that the windows kernel ran in utc natively and just adusted 'user' time based on the regional settings
09:46:11 sean-k-mooney you enither use unix time or some other utc reference time like isotime format
09:46:23 CeeMac but windows
09:46:29 CeeMac appears to be the issues
09:46:30 sean-k-mooney CeeMac: i belive it does with a different epoc

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