| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2021-07-13 | |||
| 16:52:48 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: yeah, but not backup from one edge site to another.. that would be terribad | |
| 16:52:58 | dansmith | so we'd have to have some mapping of who can do what, etc | |
| 16:53:13 | sean-k-mooney | ya which is not realy somethng a normal user woudl be aware off | |
| 16:53:20 | dansmith | for sure | |
| 16:53:34 | sean-k-mooney | so we have 2 pothtial host level cofnig options | |
| 16:53:49 | sean-k-mooney | disableing direct snapshto whihc to me feels more like a workaround option | |
| 16:53:58 | sean-k-mooney | and dansmith's glance backend option | |
| 16:54:13 | sean-k-mooney | *glance store | |
| 16:54:43 | dansmith | yup.. the former is a workaround for sure, and as we've noted here, hard to even grok what or why you'd want it, | |
| 16:54:52 | sean-k-mooney | im a little concerned the host level glance store option will have implications for shelve and cross cell migration | |
| 16:55:08 | dansmith | but the latter is at least useful for migrating in or out of some thing, or directing snapshots to an appropriate on- or off-site location depending | |
| 16:55:32 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: well, whatever the default is today already does, AFAIK | |
| 16:55:51 | sean-k-mooney | i do think i prefer the store approch | |
| 16:56:06 | sean-k-mooney | ya fair we just assume that glance is accable everywhere | |
| 16:56:17 | gibi | we have 5 minutes left, is there any other topic today? if not the we can continue this of course | |
| 16:56:27 | dansmith | spec on this for sure tho | |
| 16:56:49 | gibi | the spec it is | |
| 16:56:53 | gibi | then | |
| 16:57:07 | gibi | alistarle: please note that we have spec freeze on Thursday for Xena | |
| 16:57:32 | lyarwood | Quick one from me, I'm out for the next ~2 or so weeks, stephenfin is babysitting some stuff while I'm gone. | |
| 16:57:48 | gibi | lyarwood: thanks for the headsup | |
| 16:58:27 | gibi | if nothing else for today, then I will close the meeting but you can continue discussing the snapshot issue | |
| 16:59:18 | gibi | than thanks for joining | |
| 16:59:21 | opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-07-13-16.00.html | |
| 16:59:21 | opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-07-13-16.00.txt | |
| 16:59:21 | opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/nova/2021/nova.2021-07-13-16.00.log.html | |
| 16:59:21 | gibi | #endmeeting | |
| 16:59:21 | opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Jul 13 16:59:21 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | |
| 17:14:49 | alistarle | Sorry guy's I just miss the end of the meeting | |
| 17:15:13 | melwitt | gibi: ack re: the consumer type spec, I'm happy to propose it in the placement repo, either way, lmk what you think | |
| 17:15:21 | alistarle | So if I understand well I need to write a spec for that and freeze is Thursday, so it is dead for Xena right ? | |
| 17:15:27 | melwitt | stephenfin: ack, will look at the update on your patch | |
| 17:19:53 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: it would be challanging to land by thursday yes | |
| 17:20:13 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: i would still suggest working on the spec and a poc of the implementaiton | |
| 17:20:28 | sean-k-mooney | but likely it would be a yoga change at this point | |
| 17:21:35 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: im not sure if dansmith woudl agree but i could maybe see adding a [workarounds]disable_direct_snapshot=True|False config option as a bug in xena | |
| 17:22:06 | dansmith | zI dunno, | |
| 17:22:13 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: but i think as a long term feature it would need a spec and that likely cant land in xena | |
| 17:22:24 | dansmith | I was having a hard time seeing the value, and clearly lyarwood was as well | |
| 17:22:41 | dansmith | it's definitely a workaround, but doesn't really fit what the workarounds conf section was supposed to be | |
| 17:23:05 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: so am i in that apprcoh but as a workaround option we could remvoe it in a sort period of time | |
| 17:23:13 | dansmith | I think I'd rather see it done as a generally-useful thing to avoid landing the workaround and then never closing on it | |
| 17:23:23 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: i think we have a similar workaroud alredy | |
| 17:23:26 | alistarle | Actually it is not really an issue for me to see it in Yoga if it need more work, my only concern is if I need to wait 6 month to work on it | |
| 17:23:29 | sean-k-mooney | for live snapshots | |
| 17:23:46 | dansmith | alistarle: you can work on it now, just don't expect to merge before Y opens | |
| 17:23:47 | sean-k-mooney | https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#workarounds.disable_libvirt_livesnapshot | |
| 17:24:21 | alistarle | Oh I see, there is a dedicated workaround section | |
| 17:24:37 | alistarle | But does the workaround section follow the same deprecation cycle than others ? | |
| 17:24:39 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: on no you would not need to wait 6 months | |
| 17:24:42 | lyarwood | I'd be happy with another workaround to disable_live_directsnapshot with this replacement approach being worked on in Y | |
| 17:25:10 | sean-k-mooney | we have actully just created the yoga spec folder | |
| 17:25:54 | sean-k-mooney | so you could actully submit a spec to that folder for next cycle which we coudl review, and then you could work on the implemation to merge in early y | |
| 17:26:27 | sean-k-mooney | althoguh we normally dont approve specs for the next release until later in the cycle | |
| 17:26:59 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: yes workaround follow the same dperecation cycle | |
| 17:27:18 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: although we have in the passed intoduced workarounds as deprecated imidetly | |
| 17:27:26 | dansmith | if alistarle is fine with Y, then why not do it just once, in Y? | |
| 17:29:09 | alistarle | Actually I don't really care about when it will be officially released, as I can backport my commit easily, I just hope we can freeze the implementation as soon as possible, so I will not backport a different commit in the future | |
| 17:29:11 | lyarwood | If there's no pressing need in some env then yeah | |
| 17:29:32 | sean-k-mooney | alistarle: you mean backprot downstream/out of tree | |
| 17:29:41 | alistarle | Yeah exactly | |
| 17:30:06 | sean-k-mooney | ok just makeing sure since as a blueprit or spec it would not qualify to backport upstream | |
| 17:30:40 | sean-k-mooney | then can i suggest you submit a spec agaisnt the yoga specs directory and we can review it with Y in mind | |
| 17:31:09 | alistarle | Ok fine, let's go for Y then, and dive the "glance store" option in nova_compute config then | |
| 17:31:32 | sean-k-mooney | +1 | |
| 17:35:40 | opendevreview | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP/DNM nova-manage: Introduce bdm show and refresh commands https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/800634 | |
| 17:36:30 | lyarwood | stephenfin: ^ dumped some example output, need to help with bedtime then I'll try to clean the spec up this evening before I drop | |
| 18:01:00 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: Make test_archive_task_logs deterministic https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/800313 | |
| 18:16:22 | stephenfin | melwitt: Could you also look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794007/4 ? lyarwood is happy with it now | |
| 18:18:13 | melwitt | stephenfin: ah, cool, I had been waiting for his ack. will do | |
| 18:25:32 | opendevreview | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP/DNM libvirt: register device bus and model image properties https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/800708 | |
| 18:34:55 | lyarwood | right, I'm out of here, catch you all in ~2 weeks hopefully! \o | |
| 19:55:17 | sean-k-mooney | melwitt: am regarding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/800570 i thikn it would be better if we made all the time spans relitive ages insted of date ranges | |
| 19:55:34 | sean-k-mooney | but other then that i still like the idea of this | |
| 20:14:25 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova-specs master: Repropose: Support Consumer Types in placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/800569 | |
| 22:16:21 | NobodyCam | Good Afternoon Nova Folks | |
| 22:19:00 | NobodyCam | looking for a little guidance on deleting an instance. I have a instance that is stuck in building. it shows up with openstack server list. But we get "No server with a name or ID" when attempting to run a server show.. would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to remove this | |
| 23:55:58 | melwitt | stephenfin: sorry, still have one question from PS12 and a new question on PS14 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/706295 | |
| #openstack-nova - 2021-07-14 | |||
| 01:37:08 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/nova master: docs: Replace 'nova boot' with 'openstack server create' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/794007 | |
| 06:07:15 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up allocations left by evacuation when deleting service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778696 | |
| 06:19:49 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up allocations left by evacuation when deleting service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778696 | |
| 08:12:16 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: Smartnic support - cyborg drive https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771362 | |
| 08:12:17 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - new vnic type https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771363 | |
| 08:12:19 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - create arqs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758944 | |
| 08:12:19 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - build instance with smartnic arqs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/798249 | |
| 08:12:20 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - cleanup arqs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/798054 | |
| 08:12:21 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - reject server move and suspend https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779913 | |
| 08:12:23 | opendevreview | Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780147 | |
| 08:42:36 | gibi | stephenfin: can we get this in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-resource-classes/+/796591 I'd like to get a os-release-classes lib released as neutron also needs this | |
| 09:34:21 | opendevreview | Merged openstack/os-resource-classes master: Add packet rate related resource classes https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-resource-classes/+/796591 | |
| 10:21:26 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use neutronclient's port binding APIs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/706295 | |
| 10:21:27 | opendevreview | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: fixtures: Raise HTTP 409 if binding is already active https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/800767 | |
| 10:21:49 | stephenfin | gibi: Respun that again (hopefully the last time) if you care to take a look ^ | |
| 10:23:16 | gibi | on it | |
| 10:23:21 | stephenfin | ta | |
| 10:26:25 | gibi | done | |
| 10:26:37 | gibi | thanks for fixig the todo I left in the fixture | |
| 10:28:14 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up allocations left by evacuation when deleting service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778696 | |
| 10:33:43 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up allocations left by evacuation when deleting service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778696 | |
| 10:36:08 | opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up allocations left by evacuation when deleting service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778696 | |