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#openstack-nova - 2021-05-21
10:47:39 sean-k-mooney i dont really like bumping the microverion if there is no api change though
10:47:39 sean-k-mooney i dont really like bumping the microverion if there is no api change though
10:47:50 bauzas agreed
10:47:50 bauzas agreed
10:47:51 sean-k-mooney i mean do we really want to force user to use the new microverion
10:47:51 sean-k-mooney i mean do we really want to force user to use the new microverion
10:47:59 sean-k-mooney wehn they do a server create
10:47:59 sean-k-mooney wehn they do a server create
10:49:06 gibi it don't see why a user would use an old microversion if we bumped one for this.
10:49:06 gibi it don't see why a user would use an old microversion if we bumped one for this.
10:49:37 sean-k-mooney well the process is openstack server create --port <uuid> <name>
10:49:37 sean-k-mooney well the process is openstack server create --port <uuid> <name>
10:50:04 sean-k-mooney i dont think they shoudl have to specify a new microverion just becasue the port has a pps qos policy
10:50:04 sean-k-mooney i dont think they shoudl have to specify a new microverion just becasue the port has a pps qos policy
10:50:21 gibi me neither
10:50:21 gibi me neither
10:50:41 gibi but we have a history of bumping for bw and also we bumped for volume multiattach too. So I had to ask
10:50:41 gibi but we have a history of bumping for bw and also we bumped for volume multiattach too. So I had to ask
10:50:49 kashyap sean-k-mooney: dtantsur: You both fell for the "flame-bait" on the IRC topic from Artem Goncharov
10:50:49 kashyap sean-k-mooney: dtantsur: You both fell for the "flame-bait" on the IRC topic from Artem Goncharov
10:50:56 sean-k-mooney volume multi attach had a chagne to the api
10:50:56 sean-k-mooney volume multi attach had a chagne to the api
10:50:59 kashyap He successfully distracted you all.
10:50:59 kashyap He successfully distracted you all.
10:51:16 sean-k-mooney kashyap: not really
10:51:16 sean-k-mooney kashyap: not really
10:51:27 gibi sean-k-mooney: I don't think we changed anyithing in the nova api
10:51:27 gibi sean-k-mooney: I don't think we changed anyithing in the nova api
10:51:46 gibi bauzas: sean-k-mooney: but anyhow then I will not propose a microversion bump for pps
10:51:46 gibi bauzas: sean-k-mooney: but anyhow then I will not propose a microversion bump for pps
10:51:49 sean-k-mooney for multi atach did we not add a flag to the bdms?
10:51:49 sean-k-mooney for multi atach did we not add a flag to the bdms?
10:51:55 sean-k-mooney or was that all cinder side
10:51:55 sean-k-mooney or was that all cinder side
10:52:05 gibi sean-k-mooney: at least our api history does not mention that flag
10:52:05 gibi sean-k-mooney: at least our api history does not mention that flag
10:52:20 gibi https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/api-microversion-history.html#maximum-in-queens
10:52:20 gibi https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/reference/api-microversion-history.html#maximum-in-queens
10:52:25 sean-k-mooney ah ok i tought there was one for read only vs read write monthing
10:52:25 sean-k-mooney ah ok i tought there was one for read only vs read write monthing
10:53:03 gibi sean-k-mooney, bauzas: thanks again for talking this through. I will update the spec later today, after my fancy friday calls
10:53:03 gibi sean-k-mooney, bauzas: thanks again for talking this through. I will update the spec later today, after my fancy friday calls
10:53:43 bauzas gibi: can you recall *why* you had to create a microversion for bw ?
10:53:43 bauzas gibi: can you recall *why* you had to create a microversion for bw ?
10:54:05 sean-k-mooney i gues not https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/7e6ae9afd9f6f6bb1bf4289c598fbc95dfd52612
10:54:05 sean-k-mooney i gues not https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/7e6ae9afd9f6f6bb1bf4289c598fbc95dfd52612
10:58:40 sean-k-mooney bauzas: i suspect discoverablity
10:58:40 sean-k-mooney bauzas: i suspect discoverablity
10:58:50 sean-k-mooney likely the same reason for multi attach
10:58:50 sean-k-mooney likely the same reason for multi attach
10:59:18 bauzas we absolutely need another way to express a cloud capabilities other but by microversions...
10:59:19 bauzas we absolutely need another way to express a cloud capabilities other but by microversions...
10:59:25 sean-k-mooney althogh we shoudl think about addign a different way to do that
10:59:25 sean-k-mooney althogh we shoudl think about addign a different way to do that
10:59:33 sean-k-mooney yep
10:59:51 bauzas johnthetubaguy had one tought very earlier
10:59:51 bauzas johnthetubaguy had one tought very earlier
10:59:53 gibi bauzas: I guess discoverability
10:59:54 gibi bauzas: I guess discoverability
10:59:59 bauzas but we haven't pursued
10:59:59 bauzas but we haven't pursued
11:00:10 sean-k-mooney yep i brough it up 2 ptgs ago too
11:00:10 sean-k-mooney yep i brough it up 2 ptgs ago too
11:00:33 sean-k-mooney having a simple staic api endpoint where we report feature and required microverison or simialr
11:00:33 sean-k-mooney having a simple staic api endpoint where we report feature and required microverison or simialr
11:01:09 sean-k-mooney kind of like the extension list but not quite
11:01:09 sean-k-mooney kind of like the extension list but not quite
11:01:55 sean-k-mooney the other thing that woudl be nice is discorablity for policy
11:01:55 sean-k-mooney the other thing that woudl be nice is discorablity for policy
11:02:45 sean-k-mooney i mentioned before that i would like to create an api midelware that would allow a client to discover what operation they can perform with there current token
11:02:45 sean-k-mooney i mentioned before that i would like to create an api midelware that would allow a client to discover what operation they can perform with there current token
11:03:11 sean-k-mooney or just in general as right now if you use custom policy there is nothing an end user can do to figure that out
11:03:11 sean-k-mooney or just in general as right now if you use custom policy there is nothing an end user can do to figure that out
11:03:50 gibi * gibi has to jump on calls
11:09:27 dtantsur kashyap: my comment was earlier than gtema's
11:09:27 dtantsur kashyap: my comment was earlier than gtema's
11:09:47 dtantsur I think we should keep revisiting this topic from time to time
11:09:48 dtantsur I think we should keep revisiting this topic from time to time
11:15:29 bauzas * bauzas goes lunching
12:20:44 sean-k-mooney dtantsur: you saw my mail pointing out how to use the matrix bridge by the way
12:20:44 sean-k-mooney dtantsur: you saw my mail pointing out how to use the matrix bridge by the way
12:21:30 sean-k-mooney[m] dtantsur: it seam to work pretty well using the web client at app.element.io
12:21:31 sean-k-mooney[m] dtantsur: it seam to work pretty well using the web client at app.element.io
12:22:19 sean-k-mooney[m] this has been possible for 2-3 years for what its worth
12:22:19 sean-k-mooney[m] this has been possible for 2-3 years for what its worth
12:24:30 sean-k-mooney dtantsur: there is also a bridge to OFTC from matirx too
12:24:30 sean-k-mooney dtantsur: there is also a bridge to OFTC from matirx too
12:27:37 sean-k-mooney gibi: you need to auth with nickserv but make sure its a dm
12:27:37 sean-k-mooney gibi: you need to auth with nickserv but make sure its a dm
12:27:47 gibi sean-k-mooney: yeah I figured :)
12:27:47 gibi sean-k-mooney: yeah I figured :)
12:32:33 gibi[m] .
12:32:33 gibi[m] .
12:32:38 gibi \o/
12:32:38 gibi \o/
12:32:53 sean-k-mooney[m] interesting i can see that you are typing in matix
12:32:53 sean-k-mooney[m] interesting i can see that you are typing in matix
12:33:02 gibi me too
12:33:18 sean-k-mooney[m] not sure if thats uesful or not but good to know
12:33:18 sean-k-mooney[m] not sure if thats uesful or not but good to know

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