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#openstack-nova - 2021-05-21
08:44:56 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - new vnic type https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771363
08:44:56 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - new vnic type https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771363
08:44:57 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758944
08:44:57 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - reject server move and suspend https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779913
08:44:57 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/758944
08:44:57 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - reject server move and suspend https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779913
08:44:58 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780147
08:44:58 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: smartnic support - functional tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780147
08:47:38 yonglihe Merge conflict addressed(due to fixture cleanup.)
08:47:38 yonglihe Merge conflict addressed(due to fixture cleanup.)
09:16:10 gibi bauzas: based on the discussion so far it seems that we are mostly against having a separate OVS RP. would this work for you or is it something you would block on. I think the rest of the discussion is settled
09:16:10 gibi bauzas: based on the discussion so far it seems that we are mostly against having a separate OVS RP. would this work for you or is it something you would block on. I think the rest of the discussion is settled
09:17:04 gibi bauzas: also I wanted to ask you how do you feel about the bumping a API microversion in nova for this features. I can go both ways. There is no change in the nova API directly we just adapt to a neturon API change in nova
09:17:04 gibi bauzas: also I wanted to ask you how do you feel about the bumping a API microversion in nova for this features. I can go both ways. There is no change in the nova API directly we just adapt to a neturon API change in nova
09:17:26 bauzas gibi: call me stupid but I can't find my comments on the pps spec
09:17:26 bauzas gibi: call me stupid but I can't find my comments on the pps spec
09:17:35 gibi let meg link you
09:17:35 gibi let meg link you
09:17:50 gibi https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785014
09:17:50 gibi https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785014
09:18:08 gibi https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785014/7/specs/xena/approved/qos-minimum-guaranteed-packet-rate.rst#98
09:18:08 gibi https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785014/7/specs/xena/approved/qos-minimum-guaranteed-packet-rate.rst#98
09:18:11 bauzas yeah I was on the spec
09:18:12 bauzas yeah I was on the spec
09:18:20 bauzas but gerrit UI wasn't showing my comments
09:18:20 bauzas but gerrit UI wasn't showing my comments
09:18:25 bauzas anyway, found them
09:18:25 bauzas anyway, found them
09:18:27 bauzas bizarre...
09:18:27 bauzas bizarre...
09:18:32 gibi wrong patchset maybe
09:18:32 gibi wrong patchset maybe
09:19:11 bauzas can't saty
09:19:11 bauzas can't saty
09:19:14 bauzas say*
09:19:14 bauzas say*
09:19:19 bauzas anyway, looking at PS7
09:19:19 bauzas anyway, looking at PS7
09:19:28 openstackgerrit Qiu Fossen proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow migrating PMEM's data https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785563
09:19:28 openstackgerrit Qiu Fossen proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow migrating PMEM's data https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/785563
09:22:25 bauzas hmmmm, YAGNI... /me googles for it
09:22:25 bauzas hmmmm, YAGNI... /me googles for it
09:26:53 gibi You arent gona needd it
09:26:53 gibi You arent gona needd it
09:27:10 gibi cdent used it a lot
09:27:10 gibi cdent used it a lot
09:27:47 gibi * gibi try not to go back to nostalgia land, yesterday was enough 
09:32:31 bauzas gibi: OK, I think I captured the discussion
09:32:32 bauzas gibi: OK, I think I captured the discussion
09:33:10 bauzas aaaaand I don't know what to say
09:33:10 bauzas aaaaand I don't know what to say
09:34:12 bauzas the point is, I feel we are more and more designing our 'high-performance' features based on a couple of assumptions which are virt-specific
09:34:12 bauzas the point is, I feel we are more and more designing our 'high-performance' features based on a couple of assumptions which are virt-specific
09:34:59 bauzas which makes sense as we honestly only have one major configuration using a couple of knobs we know (ovs, libvirt-qemu for the least)
09:34:59 bauzas which makes sense as we honestly only have one major configuration using a couple of knobs we know (ovs, libvirt-qemu for the least)
09:35:29 bauzas but doing those shortcuts have a price to pay : we raise the barrier for newcomers
09:35:29 bauzas but doing those shortcuts have a price to pay : we raise the barrier for newcomers
09:36:18 bauzas if some company wants to develop a new neutron backend that would break the 1:1 mapping between the agent and the service itself, then this would require more work for them
09:36:18 bauzas if some company wants to develop a new neutron backend that would break the 1:1 mapping between the agent and the service itself, then this would require more work for them
09:36:51 bauzas for the moment, I'd say (except notably for QoS) that only the libvirt driver is impacted by such assumption
09:36:51 bauzas for the moment, I'd say (except notably for QoS) that only the libvirt driver is impacted by such assumption
09:37:24 gibi bauzas: isn't part of the state of the project, we are slowing down, maturing, solidifying. So we don't really expect big new things, like a new virt driver, coming
09:37:25 gibi bauzas: isn't part of the state of the project, we are slowing down, maturing, solidifying. So we don't really expect big new things, like a new virt driver, coming
09:37:34 bauzas when sean-k-mooney say "a lot of changes for nova and neutron" , this would mean for nova the libvirt driver only, as I could tell
09:37:34 bauzas when sean-k-mooney say "a lot of changes for nova and neutron" , this would mean for nova the libvirt driver only, as I could tell
09:37:43 bauzas gibi: right, I know
09:37:43 bauzas gibi: right, I know
09:37:54 bauzas gibi: and I'm pragmatic
09:37:54 bauzas gibi: and I'm pragmatic
09:38:02 sean-k-mooney bauzas: ovs is supported wiht hyperv too
09:38:02 sean-k-mooney bauzas: ovs is supported wiht hyperv too
09:38:14 bauzas but I just want everyone to feel the price of such shortcomings
09:38:14 bauzas but I just want everyone to feel the price of such shortcomings
09:38:50 bauzas but again, I'm not *that* opiniated to block on this
09:38:50 bauzas but again, I'm not *that* opiniated to block on this
09:38:55 bauzas so I'll just leave it go
09:38:55 bauzas so I'll just leave it go
09:39:26 sean-k-mooney yes it woudl require more work
09:39:26 sean-k-mooney yes it woudl require more work
09:39:29 bauzas gibi: fwiw, I wouldn't speak of a new virt driver
09:39:30 bauzas gibi: fwiw, I wouldn't speak of a new virt driver
09:39:44 bauzas gibi: that said, adding a new virt driver isn't a big deal in nova and you know
09:39:44 bauzas gibi: that said, adding a new virt driver isn't a big deal in nova and you know
09:40:31 bauzas gibi: I was more considering that some network people could think that multiple switches on an agent could be nice
09:40:31 bauzas gibi: I was more considering that some network people could think that multiple switches on an agent could be nice
09:40:46 bauzas for HA or whatever
09:40:46 bauzas for HA or whatever
09:41:06 bauzas I'm no longer surprised by the creativity of the community
09:41:06 bauzas I'm no longer surprised by the creativity of the community
09:41:16 sean-k-mooney ha
09:41:16 sean-k-mooney ha
09:41:50 sean-k-mooney last time i suggested adding a new virt driver it got shot down quicker then adding cellsv1 back
09:41:50 sean-k-mooney last time i suggested adding a new virt driver it got shot down quicker then adding cellsv1 back
09:42:13 bauzas (that being said, I'm up with sean-k-mooney on the fact that I also feel that modeling the agent itself is pointless if no resources are really offered by it)
09:42:14 bauzas (that being said, I'm up with sean-k-mooney on the fact that I also feel that modeling the agent itself is pointless if no resources are really offered by it)
09:42:47 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I was just mentioning this is *technically* easy to develop a new driver :)
09:42:47 bauzas sean-k-mooney: I was just mentioning this is *technically* easy to develop a new driver :)
09:42:50 sean-k-mooney what is the meaning of modelign the vswitch by the way
09:42:50 sean-k-mooney what is the meaning of modelign the vswitch by the way
09:43:13 sean-k-mooney give the packet procesing rate is an atribute of the datapath instnace

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