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#openstack-nova - 2021-05-20
08:15:18 bauzas kashyap: tbc, agreed on the consensus to move to OFTC
08:15:18 bauzas kashyap: tbc, agreed on the consensus to move to OFTC
08:15:39 bauzas this is absolutely not the right time for evaluating other products
08:15:39 bauzas this is absolutely not the right time for evaluating other products
08:15:40 kashyap bauzas: Yep; that makes sense.
08:15:41 kashyap bauzas: Yep; that makes sense.
08:15:55 bauzas the lower change, the better.
08:15:55 bauzas the lower change, the better.
08:16:06 kashyap bauzas: Sure. I've said as much. I don't know about the "absolute"; but it's always the time to change one's mind ;-)
08:16:06 kashyap bauzas: Sure. I've said as much. I don't know about the "absolute"; but it's always the time to change one's mind ;-)
08:16:11 bauzas the question, tho, is the absolute need to the move
08:16:11 bauzas the question, tho, is the absolute need to the move
08:16:25 bauzas that's unclear and I wouldn't argue for urgency
08:16:25 bauzas that's unclear and I wouldn't argue for urgency
08:16:55 bauzas the operations still continue and we should just make a reasonable transition plan to OFTC but not under pressure
08:16:56 bauzas the operations still continue and we should just make a reasonable transition plan to OFTC but not under pressure
08:17:06 bauzas nothing justifies us to move ASAP
08:17:06 bauzas nothing justifies us to move ASAP
08:17:16 kashyap Yep; I don't see any crazy urgency.
08:17:16 kashyap Yep; I don't see any crazy urgency.
08:17:35 bauzas and I'd recommend us to keep freenode chat rooms for a while
08:17:35 bauzas and I'd recommend us to keep freenode chat rooms for a while
08:17:41 bauzas in order to reroute people coming by
08:17:41 bauzas in order to reroute people coming by
08:17:51 bauzas not everyone comes everyday on the rooms
08:17:52 bauzas not everyone comes everyday on the rooms
08:18:07 bauzas and not everyone reads openinfra mailing lists
08:18:07 bauzas and not everyone reads openinfra mailing lists
08:18:28 bauzas actually, I'll reply by this
08:18:28 bauzas actually, I'll reply by this
08:18:47 bauzas * bauzas usually hates to jump on those kind of large and opiniated threads
08:25:49 kashyap Sure; what you suggest should be "obvious" for the Infra folks; and is part of clear communication to the communities.
08:25:49 kashyap Sure; what you suggest should be "obvious" for the Infra folks; and is part of clear communication to the communities.
08:36:45 aarents Morning nova!
08:36:45 aarents Morning nova!
08:37:04 aarents in this change "libvirt: Provide the backing file format when creating qcow2 disks" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/708745/ ,
08:37:04 aarents in this change "libvirt: Provide the backing file format when creating qcow2 disks" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/708745/ ,
08:37:22 aarents we ensure to add the "backing_fmt" field at qcow2 image creation due to newer libvirt constraints.(if not present newer libvirt does not start instance)
08:37:23 aarents we ensure to add the "backing_fmt" field at qcow2 image creation due to newer libvirt constraints.(if not present newer libvirt does not start instance)
08:37:44 aarents there is the Lee following quote: "Nova needs to [...] potentially handle the upgrade case where we may need to rebase existing disks in order to update the metadata."
08:37:44 aarents there is the Lee following quote: "Nova needs to [...] potentially handle the upgrade case where we may need to rebase existing disks in order to update the metadata."
08:38:01 aarents I would like to know if there is an ongoing work with the "upgrade case" ?
08:38:02 aarents I would like to know if there is an ongoing work with the "upgrade case" ?
08:38:49 openstackgerrit Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: DO NOT REVIEW: Testing new OVN as default https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/792328
08:38:49 openstackgerrit Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: DO NOT REVIEW: Testing new OVN as default https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/792328
08:50:15 lyarwood aarents: no as the check was removed in the next minor release of libvirt
08:50:15 lyarwood aarents: no as the check was removed in the next minor release of libvirt
08:50:49 lyarwood aarents: AFAIK UCA is still shipping the original version with the check so if you're running into this you need to raise a bug against UCA and ask them to bump their version of libvirt
08:50:49 lyarwood aarents: AFAIK UCA is still shipping the original version with the check so if you're running into this you need to raise a bug against UCA and ask them to bump their version of libvirt
08:54:50 aarents lyarwood: intersting I will double check, thank you
08:54:50 aarents lyarwood: intersting I will double check, thank you
08:57:14 lyarwood aarents: np, fixing this by rebasing every single instance disk as a result just isn't worth the effort IMHO
08:57:15 lyarwood aarents: np, fixing this by rebasing every single instance disk as a result just isn't worth the effort IMHO
09:16:25 artom Huh, http://status.openstack.org/reviews/ is broken
09:16:25 artom Huh, http://status.openstack.org/reviews/ is broken
09:56:21 admin0 hi all.. how do I rename an existing host to a new one ?
09:56:21 admin0 hi all.. how do I rename an existing host to a new one ?
09:56:41 stephenfin admin0: afaik, you can't
09:56:41 stephenfin admin0: afaik, you can't
09:56:55 admin0 the issue i have is that i started with hostname say h7 .. then at some point, it registered as h7.openstack.local and at some point its registered at h7. ( only a . with no domain at the end)
09:56:55 admin0 the issue i have is that i started with hostname say h7 .. then at some point, it registered as h7.openstack.local and at some point its registered at h7. ( only a . with no domain at the end)
09:57:10 admin0 so now my associations are broken .. i cannot migrate stuff .. i cannot use security groups
09:57:10 admin0 so now my associations are broken .. i cannot migrate stuff .. i cannot use security groups
09:57:29 admin0 because the instances are running, how can i fix this
09:57:29 admin0 because the instances are running, how can i fix this
09:57:55 stephenfin oh, so you had one name and you've inadvertently changed it?
09:57:55 stephenfin oh, so you had one name and you've inadvertently changed it?
09:58:41 stephenfin artom can hopefully sanity check what I'm saying, but I think you'll need to manually correct the ComputeNode entries for the host in the DB and ensure your RabbitMQ queues are correctly named
09:58:41 stephenfin artom can hopefully sanity check what I'm saying, but I think you'll need to manually correct the ComputeNode entries for the host in the DB and ensure your RabbitMQ queues are correctly named
09:59:16 admin0 stephenfin, i did not knowingly changed it .. i think one admin accidently added openstack_domain: "" because he did not wanted to see openstack.local and ran the openstack ansible nova playbooks .. and that caused hosts calling h7 to be re-added as h7.
09:59:16 admin0 stephenfin, i did not knowingly changed it .. i think one admin accidently added openstack_domain: "" because he did not wanted to see openstack.local and ran the openstack ansible nova playbooks .. and that caused hosts calling h7 to be re-added as h7.
09:59:21 admin0 stephenfin, here is what i see now: openstack_domain: ""
09:59:21 admin0 stephenfin, here is what i see now: openstack_domain: ""
09:59:31 admin0 stephenfin, sorry .. https://gist.github.com/a1git/c22ec0c17aaa9dcf95fd7485eb76af2f
09:59:31 admin0 stephenfin, sorry .. https://gist.github.com/a1git/c22ec0c17aaa9dcf95fd7485eb76af2f
10:00:36 artom stephenfin, that sounds about right
10:00:36 artom stephenfin, that sounds about right
10:00:48 artom There may also be placement and/or cinder fallout
10:00:48 artom There may also be placement and/or cinder fallout
10:00:53 artom And Neutron?
10:00:53 artom And Neutron?
10:01:07 admin0 its in rocky release .. there is no placement database or api as far as i know
10:01:07 admin0 its in rocky release .. there is no placement database or api as far as i know
10:02:02 artom Wait, when did we move placement out of tree?
10:02:02 artom Wait, when did we move placement out of tree?
10:02:09 artom Before rocky, surely
10:02:09 artom Before rocky, surely
10:02:18 admin0 then maybe i am wrong
10:02:18 admin0 then maybe i am wrong
10:03:06 artom admin0, but the point, the hostname is used in placement resource providers, in neutron port bindings, and in cinder connection_info (sometimes? depending on the volume backend configuration?) I'm less familiar with how that works)
10:03:06 artom admin0, but the point, the hostname is used in placement resource providers, in neutron port bindings, and in cinder connection_info (sometimes? depending on the volume backend configuration?) I'm less familiar with how that works)
10:03:08 admin0 i do not see a database called "placemenet" like i see in newer deployments
10:03:08 admin0 i do not see a database called "placemenet" like i see in newer deployments
10:05:19 admin0 fair point .. so right now, i have around 16 instances that are running in a compute node called h7 (ceph backend) .. which if I want to migrate from h7 -> h9, it says h7- host not found
10:05:19 admin0 fair point .. so right now, i have around 16 instances that are running in a compute node called h7 (ceph backend) .. which if I want to migrate from h7 -> h9, it says h7- host not found
10:05:35 admin0 openstack server show $uuid shows it be on h7 ( without . and without .openstack.local)
10:05:35 admin0 openstack server show $uuid shows it be on h7 ( without . and without .openstack.local)
10:06:07 admin0 if there is a way to know what exactly hostname an instance is supposed to be at, then maybe at least i can migrate by matching the existing hostname to what the instance is expecting
10:06:07 admin0 if there is a way to know what exactly hostname an instance is supposed to be at, then maybe at least i can migrate by matching the existing hostname to what the instance is expecting
10:06:49 admin0 artom, stephenfin this shows the issue and the command I tried: https://gist.github.com/a1git/ce400f1084a184fa5c805ee72554a6e3

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