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#openstack-nova - 2021-05-11
21:07:01 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: rbd: Get rbd_utils unit tests running again https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790836
21:07:01 openstackgerrit melanie witt proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: rbd: Get rbd_utils unit tests running again https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790836
21:07:31 openstackgerrit Archit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Fix typo in test_utils https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790724
21:07:31 openstackgerrit Archit Modi proposed openstack/nova stable/wallaby: Fix typo in test_utils https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790724
21:08:34 amodi melwitt: yeah looks like it re-kicked it correctly, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790724
21:08:34 amodi melwitt: yeah looks like it re-kicked it correctly, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790724
21:08:37 amodi thanks!!
21:08:37 amodi thanks!!
21:08:53 melwitt kewl
21:08:53 melwitt kewl
#openstack-nova - 2021-05-12
01:01:52 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Support auto-negotiated microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696028
01:01:57 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Switch default to use latest microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696040
01:07:20 openstackgerrit likui proposed openstack/nova master: Replace getargspec with getfullargspec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790405
01:54:25 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Support auto-negotiated microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696028
01:54:26 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Support auto-negotiated microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696028
01:54:30 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Switch default to use latest microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696040
01:54:30 openstackgerrit Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Switch default to use latest microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696040
02:51:25 openstackgerrit likui proposed openstack/nova master: Replace getargspec with getfullargspec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790405
02:51:25 openstackgerrit likui proposed openstack/nova master: Replace getargspec with getfullargspec https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/790405
09:03:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-placement master: Support auto-negotiated microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696028
09:03:46 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-placement master: Support auto-negotiated microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696028
09:03:56 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-placement master: Switch default to use latest microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696040
09:03:56 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/osc-placement master: Switch default to use latest microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/696040
09:12:47 gibi \o/ that is a real usability improvement ^^
09:12:47 gibi \o/ that is a real usability improvement ^^
09:15:02 kashyap gibi: or anyone: Do you know if any other non-OpenStack project using 'reno' for release notes management?
09:15:02 kashyap gibi: or anyone: Do you know if any other non-OpenStack project using 'reno' for release notes management?
09:15:33 stephenfin I use it for my own stuff
09:15:33 stephenfin I use it for my own stuff
09:15:36 gibi kashyap: I'm not aware of any but I never searched for it
09:15:36 gibi kashyap: I'm not aware of any but I never searched for it
09:15:38 kashyap Or is it closely tied to how OpenStack produces docs?
09:15:38 kashyap Or is it closely tied to how OpenStack produces docs?
09:15:58 kashyap stephenfin: I see, good to know. It's not tied to OpenStack's docs tooling, right?
09:15:58 kashyap stephenfin: I see, good to know. It's not tied to OpenStack's docs tooling, right?
09:16:04 stephenfin It's not closely tied to how we produce docs, but it is closely tied to our branching model
09:16:04 stephenfin It's not closely tied to how we produce docs, but it is closely tied to our branching model
09:16:19 kashyap stephenfin: The reason I ask is, QEMU upstream uses MediaWiki for changelog. E.g. https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.0
09:16:19 kashyap stephenfin: The reason I ask is, QEMU upstream uses MediaWiki for changelog. E.g. https://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/6.0
09:16:27 kashyap stephenfin: I'm wondering if I can bring them to start using 'reno'
09:16:27 kashyap stephenfin: I'm wondering if I can bring them to start using 'reno'
09:16:44 kashyap Or any other generic Git-based rel note management.
09:16:44 kashyap Or any other generic Git-based rel note management.
09:17:14 stephenfin For example, I tried to integrate it into Sphinx, but they have a merge-back model whereby you propose things to stable branches and then periodically merge those back into master. That breaks reno, which expects branches stable branches to diverge
09:17:14 stephenfin For example, I tried to integrate it into Sphinx, but they have a merge-back model whereby you propose things to stable branches and then periodically merge those back into master. That breaks reno, which expects branches stable branches to diverge
09:17:20 stephenfin kashyap: towncrier
09:17:20 stephenfin kashyap: towncrier
09:18:31 kashyap stephenfin: Oh, I see. So, if a project has non-converging stable -> master approach, then 'reno' is good?
09:18:31 kashyap stephenfin: Oh, I see. So, if a project has non-converging stable -> master approach, then 'reno' is good?
09:18:33 stephenfin kashyap: it's not as clever, but that's possibly a good thing. No git parsing logic. You simply create news fragment files and then once, before a release, you run a manual step to combine those into once NEWS/CHANGELOG/<whatever> file
09:18:33 stephenfin kashyap: it's not as clever, but that's possibly a good thing. No git parsing logic. You simply create news fragment files and then once, before a release, you run a manual step to combine those into once NEWS/CHANGELOG/<whatever> file
09:18:54 kashyap stephenfin: Didn't know of 'towncrier'; /me looks up.
09:18:54 kashyap stephenfin: Didn't know of 'towncrier'; /me looks up.
09:19:00 stephenfin kashyap: Yes, I think that's a fair summary
09:19:00 stephenfin kashyap: Yes, I think that's a fair summary
09:19:30 kashyap stephenfin: Okay; thanks for the suggestion. I'll check w/ the QEMU upstream folks to guage the appetite
09:19:30 kashyap stephenfin: Okay; thanks for the suggestion. I'll check w/ the QEMU upstream folks to guage the appetite
09:19:44 kashyap Since I got used to 'reno', I abhor MediaWiki :D
09:19:44 kashyap Since I got used to 'reno', I abhor MediaWiki :D
09:20:17 stephenfin though you also occasionally need to go in and create a static summary changelog (or whatever you want to call them), whereby you instruct reno not to scan past commit N and simply generate a static listing
09:20:17 stephenfin though you also occasionally need to go in and create a static summary changelog (or whatever you want to call them), whereby you instruct reno not to scan past commit N and simply generate a static listing
09:20:33 stephenfin if you don't do this, the build time will continue to grow with your commit history
09:20:33 stephenfin if you don't do this, the build time will continue to grow with your commit history
09:21:10 kashyap stephenfin: Ah, that's a very useful thing to know; thanks.
09:21:10 kashyap stephenfin: Ah, that's a very useful thing to know; thanks.
09:21:19 stephenfin compare e.g. releasenotes/source/newton.rst with releasenotes/source/ocata.rst
09:21:19 stephenfin compare e.g. releasenotes/source/newton.rst with releasenotes/source/ocata.rst
09:21:30 stephenfin the git log for the former should explain some of the rationale
09:21:30 stephenfin the git log for the former should explain some of the rationale
09:21:31 kashyap * kashyap goes to compare
09:21:41 stephenfin I should probably get this written down in the reno docs...
09:21:41 stephenfin I should probably get this written down in the reno docs...
09:21:58 stephenfin hope that helps
09:21:58 stephenfin hope that helps
09:22:31 kashyap stephenfin: Yes, very much. Please document the above useful bits you just said. It helps non-OpenStack projects to evaluate it clearly
09:22:31 kashyap stephenfin: Yes, very much. Please document the above useful bits you just said. It helps non-OpenStack projects to evaluate it clearly
09:23:06 kashyap Especially the non-converging branches expectation is a good one
09:23:06 kashyap Especially the non-converging branches expectation is a good one
09:29:08 kashyap I worry about the "occasionally don't forget to generate static summary" from dead branches -- it's easy to forget. /me thinks if there's a way to automate it (even if it's just an email reminder)
09:29:08 kashyap I worry about the "occasionally don't forget to generate static summary" from dead branches -- it's easy to forget. /me thinks if there's a way to automate it (even if it's just an email reminder)
09:33:39 kashyap stephenfin: Is Sphinx's merge-back model documented somewhere?
09:33:39 kashyap stephenfin: Is Sphinx's merge-back model documented somewhere?
09:33:56 stephenfin I don't think so
09:33:56 stephenfin I don't think so
09:34:43 stephenfin https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/internals/contributing.html#bug-reports-and-feature-requests
09:34:43 stephenfin https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/internals/contributing.html#bug-reports-and-feature-requests
09:35:13 stephenfin It's described in a round-about manner in the Getting started guide here
09:35:13 stephenfin It's described in a round-about manner in the Getting started guide here
09:35:27 kashyap Ah; thanks :)
09:35:28 kashyap Ah; thanks :)
10:05:37 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow provider re-parenting in placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/788243
10:06:17 sean-k-mooney wait what
10:06:17 sean-k-mooney wait what
10:07:01 sean-k-mooney why makeing osc using max is a huge breaking change
10:07:01 sean-k-mooney why makeing osc using max is a huge breaking change
10:07:29 gibi sean-k-mooney: it is the CLI
10:07:29 gibi sean-k-mooney: it is the CLI
10:07:33 sean-k-mooney i hope that is going to be a major version bump
10:07:33 sean-k-mooney i hope that is going to be a major version bump
10:07:34 gibi use by humand

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