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#openstack-nova - 2021-03-15
09:05:49 lyarwood Morning, I guess we need to leave the gate alone to allow the vDPA and secure-boot stuff to land right?
09:06:11 gibi lyarwood: hi! do you have a plan to disturb the gate somehow? :)
09:08:05 lyarwood gibi: I mean just in terms of load etc
09:08:12 lyarwood gibi: approving additional things
09:08:34 lyarwood like https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:bug/1552042 ;)
09:09:12 gibi I think bugfixes should go. I don't see how that can effectively slow down the vdpa and secure boot landing
09:09:33 lyarwood kk
09:19:26 lyarwood bauzas: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780286 - would you mind hitting this today to unblock stable/rocky?
09:22:13 bauzas lyarwood: sure, looking
09:23:26 kashyap lyarwood: gibi: I think it's not worth to backport anything that is _not_ a CVE fix for stable/train, is it?
09:23:37 kashyap Morning, BTW
09:24:38 kashyap lyarwood: gibi: What I have in mind is the "allow disabling CPU flags" feature -- it can potentially save people from lots of tricky positions. But, stable/train goes EOL in a couple of months
09:26:04 gibi kashyap: you called that a feature, that categorization already prevents backporting
09:26:05 kashyap So I'm ambivalent for upstream. If downstreams need it; they should maintain the backport on their own.
09:26:17 kashyap gibi: Fair enough :-)
09:28:44 kashyap gibi: For an imaginary case: you wouldn't object backporting a small "feature" (not a big one) to a long-term stable branch if it can potentially save a lot of future misery, would you?
09:29:27 lyarwood kashyap: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html sets out the upstream policy
09:29:35 kashyap ("I would object" is a valid answer, though :-))
09:31:33 kashyap lyarwood: I'm not going to backport it to stable/train, but for discussion's sake: the backport fits all criteria: it's small and self-contained; not invasive at all; not user-visible, but still can save your rear ... and so on
09:31:53 kashyap Thanks for the link. I'll stop theoretical discussions here :-)
09:32:25 gibi kashyap: allowing feature backports is a slippery slope
09:33:58 kashyap gibi: I fully agree; but the devil is in the details, right? If it's a tiny, targetted "feature", but can facilitate a security mitigation (which is a real possibility, BTW), then what?
09:34:24 kashyap The concrete example is: there can be a future CVE which can be mitigated only disabling a CPU flag fo rthe guest.
09:35:11 kashyap gibi: That said, I agree with you for the rest of the 98% of cases, it is a slippery slope.
09:35:42 kashyap Missing word earlier: s/only/only by/
09:38:07 gibi when we have such CVE to mitigate then we have to decide how to mitigate that.
09:38:35 gibi if the only obvious way is to backport you change then we can consider that
09:39:44 lucasagomes sean-k-mooney, morning, if u have sometime mind taking a look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776934, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776419 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776944 ? Simple patches, all with +2's already
09:40:01 lucasagomes ops... last one has a merge conflict. Lemme fix it
09:40:13 kashyap gibi: Yep; fun fact: that's what we did when we introduced the config option :-)
09:40:43 kashyap (It helped mitigate a flaw at that time by _enabling_ two CPU flags)
09:43:08 openstackgerrit Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Adapt the live-migration job scripts to work with OVN https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776419
09:43:09 openstackgerrit Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Explicitly set grenade job to ML2/OVS https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776934
09:43:09 openstackgerrit Lucas Alvares Gomes proposed openstack/nova master: [OVN] Explicitly set nova-next job to ML2/OVS https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/776944
09:44:26 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: fakelibvirt: make kB_mem default not laughable https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/779559
09:46:48 gibi kashyap: I vaguely rememeber
09:47:23 gibi anyhow we have a national holiday today here in Hungary so I will be going on and off during the day
09:47:41 kashyap gibi: /me wrote documentation for it here :-) -- https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/admin/mitigation-for-Intel-MDS-security-flaws.html
09:47:43 gibi sean-k-mooney: I've found ony problem with the vdpa ops blcoking patch
09:47:53 kashyap gibi: Ah, enjoy the day. It is even sunny here today
09:48:01 gibi it is not bad here either
10:08:24 brinzhang bauzas: good morning^
10:08:45 brinzhang bauzas: you comment in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/778440 with bug 1917592
10:08:47 openstack bug 1917592 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Missed 'accel_uuids' when we the 'shelved_offload_time' time out in shelving instance periodic task" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1917592 - Assigned to Brin Zhang (zhangbailin)
10:09:03 bauzas brinzhang: good afternoon
10:09:13 bauzas (I have to leave in 5 mins for getting my children from school)
10:10:00 brinzhang bauzas: ack, dont worry
10:10:34 brinzhang about your concern, does it need to add an cyborg get multiple arqs apis?
10:15:13 bauzas brinzhang: well, the point is that we call the Cyborg API for each of the instance
10:15:49 bauzas but my -1 was more about the L9480
10:17:35 brinzhang bauzas: ack, not in a hurry, thanks
10:18:50 brinzhang gibi: do you have some suggestion? bauzas's concern is the cyborgclient may get many times if there are some bound accel:device_profile instance
10:19:16 brinzhang s/some/any/
13:17:25 lyarwood elod / bauzas / melwitt ; https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/780287 - final stable/queens ceph fix should be good to go btw
13:47:18 sean-k-mooney gibi: hi yep its an issue ill fix that and convert it to using the info cache quickly otherwise are you ok with the approch
13:48:21 sean-k-mooney im technically off this week but im going to intermitenly check the status of the vdpa patches until they are all merged but expect delays since i will only be checking evey few hours
13:49:32 gibi sean-k-mooney: I'm OK with the approach
14:27:00 openstackgerrit Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Add openstackclient-plugin-jobs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/780598
14:30:15 bauzas dansmith: I got hit by Zuul when changing the pre-live-migration method, so I'll try to not accept 5.0
14:32:36 k-s-dean Hi would someone be able to help me.
14:32:51 k-s-dean How does nova notify neutron / designate of VM details ?
14:38:44 sean-k-mooney via a port update. for neutron it updates teh device_id with the instance uuid in port binding prodmently and designate reads the info from the neutron port
14:39:01 sean-k-mooney nova does not directly interact with designate
14:43:13 k-s-dean sean thanks for answering I'm getting ignore in all the other channels, I'm hitting an issue where the fixed IPs are being put in DNS. I've been asking around but cant get to the bottom of it. It worked in stein.
14:43:52 sean-k-mooney i think that is expected
14:44:41 sean-k-mooney when using designate the fixed ips set on the neutron port are registred in dns so that vms can directlly ssh to other vms via there host/dns name
14:44:42 k-s-dean In the neutron documentation it says that the VMs name gets appended on to the dns domain on port update events.
14:44:56 k-s-dean specifically for floating IPs
14:45:40 k-s-dean something has obviously changed since I last installed openstack.
14:46:19 sean-k-mooney i was always under the impression that both fix and floating ips were always regeistred
14:46:30 sean-k-mooney though the dns name might be different for each
14:46:50 k-s-dean The floating IP is being registered but like so
14:47:05 k-s-dean 10-30-0-205.os.example.com. | A | 10.30.0.205
14:47:27 k-s-dean I swear that in stein the VMs name was added to that DNS name
14:47:49 k-s-dean https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/config-dns-int.html#config-dns-int-dns-resolution
14:47:54 k-s-dean these docs are wrong then.
14:49:42 sean-k-mooney i have 172-20-5-191.cloud.seanmooney.info. cyborg-1.cloud.seanmooney.info. cyborg-1.sean.cloud.seanmooney.info.
14:49:46 sean-k-mooney all for the same vm
14:50:08 k-s-dean are those assigned to the floating IP or fixed IP
14:50:13 sean-k-mooney fixed
14:50:38 k-s-dean is that for internal DNS resolution then ?
14:50:44 k-s-dean not external
14:51:02 k-s-dean because I thought dns mask needed to be setup for that
14:51:16 sean-k-mooney well this is my home cloud and all the ips in my neturon subnet allocation pool are routable
14:51:32 sean-k-mooney my vms only get public ipv6 address
14:51:45 k-s-dean Yeah, so thats where I think there has been a major change.
14:52:02 k-s-dean in the neutron docs. Use case 2: Floating IPs are published with associated port DNS attributes
14:52:26 k-s-dean you can see at the end the floating IP is assigned the VMS name.
14:52:42 k-s-dean I can work around this by using a flat provider network,
14:52:55 k-s-dean and attach the VMs directly to the network.
14:52:58 sean-k-mooney well floating ips are named by the enduser when you create them
14:53:08 sean-k-mooney nova does not create floating ips fro you
14:53:47 k-s-dean ok i thought that when you attach a floating IP to an instance, neutron would notify nova of the port update and nova would notify designate of the VMS name
14:54:00 sean-k-mooney no
14:54:36 sean-k-mooney to attach a floating ip you call the nova api but we do not call designate.
14:54:49 sean-k-mooney its possible that designate is listing to nova notifcation bus
14:55:06 k-s-dean it is.
14:55:22 sean-k-mooney im not sure it does any more
14:55:22 k-s-dean the way this works has obviously changed, since stein
14:55:24 sean-k-mooney it used too

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