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#openstack-nova - 2021-01-20
14:50:19 sean-k-mooney not of the top of my head
14:50:50 sean-k-mooney allthough you are looking at the unit/func tests?
14:50:55 sean-k-mooney so we might just not have mocked it right
14:51:43 sean-k-mooney in real code it maight always be set but in our unit test it might not due to incorrect mocking maybe?
14:52:01 gibi it is tempest
14:52:09 sean-k-mooney fyi ill be afk for a while but ill update the spec when i get back
14:52:16 gibi sean-k-mooney: ack
14:52:22 sean-k-mooney ah ok ya i guess using testtool makes sense there
14:53:14 sean-k-mooney oh needed to exted time frame so its the min bandwith tests
14:53:18 sean-k-mooney weird
14:53:44 gibi I see in the api log that fault is lazy loaded
14:53:48 gibi for this request
14:54:00 gibi so somehow the fault is missing in the db
15:12:49 lyarwood https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/754702/ - there's a first, subnode deployment failed but we still tried to run multinode tests
15:44:04 kashyap Unrelated ... TIL, Red Hat announced gratis RHEL (you can now run upto 16 production instances): https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-year-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-programs-easier-ways-access-rhel
15:44:35 kashyap lyarwood: --^ Wonder if that allows one to start testing w/ proper RHEL in the upstream CI
15:45:56 lyarwood kashyap: I wouldn't expect it would no
15:46:24 lyarwood kashyap: and in any case testing RHEL in master CI seems a little pointless if we have centOS streams
15:46:45 kashyap lyarwood: Ah, right; if we're testing w/ CentOS
15:46:56 kashyap ... Streams, it's indeed not worth it
15:47:13 kashyap I brought it up because some upstreams (like QEMU) will start using it now
15:48:12 lyarwood I'd like to introduce *some* centOS streams coverage into the Nova gate if at all possible but that's about it
15:51:43 kashyap lyarwood: Right; any non-trivial enterprise distro testing is upto relevant downstreams (as it's part of their value prop).
15:52:30 kashyap I, for one, would be happy if a Fedora job that is sustained w/o bit-rot. I don't care about CentOS or Streams, personally.
15:52:48 lyarwood we have that in the experimental queue
15:53:14 lyarwood but centOS is a supported distro unlike Fedora
15:53:27 lyarwood so I'd rather have it in the check and gate queues
15:54:26 kashyap lyarwood: Yeah; I know you did some work on that; and I use it occasionally. To which, I thank you!
15:54:43 lyarwood a few of us normally try to support the new fedora releases
15:54:54 kashyap You're saying CentOS as "supported" as in, LTS, I take it
15:55:05 kashyap lyarwood: Right; I did it in the past, and didn't do it after that.
15:55:19 kashyap I also know ianw++ does some tireless maint work
15:55:23 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: fedora is techniclaly not in the PTI
15:55:48 sean-k-mooney if your talking about devstack then its only partly supported
15:56:37 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/devstack/blob/master/doc/source/overview.rst#base-os
15:58:00 kashyap lyarwood: BTW, upstream libvirt tests CentOS7, 8, Streams, and a crap-ton of other distros: https://gitlab.com/libvirt/libvirt/-/pipelines/244260219
15:58:41 kashyap It's at least good that they (including QEMU) test on RHEL; to catch regressions that can sneak in through rebases.
15:58:45 sean-k-mooney kashyap: by the way the previous developer licencing explcitly disallowed rhel
15:58:49 kashyap (And upper layers benefit from that.)
15:59:05 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: huh I was going on the runtimes for each release
15:59:07 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Yep; that's fixed now. The developer subscription is now far more useful.
15:59:37 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: fedora is not in the support runtime for any release
15:59:52 sean-k-mooney right now centos stream is not either technically
16:00:15 sean-k-mooney although i think that will change in the y release
16:00:27 sean-k-mooney i know rdo are moving to stream now
16:00:41 sean-k-mooney but technially that is not a supproted runtime
16:00:53 lyarwood yup I'd still like to move ahead with some centOS coverage of some form this cycle if possible
16:01:54 sean-k-mooney yes we could do that though we proably shoudl not use stream
16:02:17 sean-k-mooney at least until the offical runtime list is either ammened or next cycle
16:02:26 lyarwood yeah I'll just use whatever is in the base job from devstack/tempest (/me forgets which)
16:02:39 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: well both are avaiable
16:02:49 sean-k-mooney and i fixed the only stream issue earlier in the cycle
16:03:03 sean-k-mooney so we can use both if needed
16:03:15 sean-k-mooney its just up to use to choose the correct nodeset
16:03:41 sean-k-mooney kashyap: the limit on 16 instance basically means we cant use the "No-cost RHEL for small production workloads" clause
16:04:08 kashyap sean-k-mooney: What do you mean can't use? It is for CI/developer purposes
16:04:15 kashyap That's their intentional limit
16:04:30 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Many upstreams benefit from that
16:04:46 kashyap It is not supposed to solve every use case of every project. But for vast majority; this is a good move.
16:04:58 sean-k-mooney that document does not explcitly state you arfree to use it for CI
16:06:13 sean-k-mooney it describe 2 catagories "No-cost RHEL for customer development teams" upstream ci is not a customer
16:07:30 sean-k-mooney the other one is "No-cost RHEL for small production workloads"
16:12:57 sean-k-mooney which is adderssed by "Individual Developer subscription for RHEL can be used in production for up to 16 systems."
16:54:58 kashyap The annoucement clearly spells out "community projects maintaining large CI/Build systems".
17:02:23 dansmith gibi: lyarwood: If you're around, could we get this landed? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771234
17:02:41 dansmith we're currently copying glance-internal properties into snapshots, which we need to stop so glance can stop letting api users set internals :P
17:04:24 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: tox: Stop linting as part of docs target https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/735176
17:04:57 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: doc: require openstack client change for every new API microversion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/717727
17:12:03 lyarwood dansmith: sorry was on a call, looking
17:16:14 gibi dansmith: looks good to me
17:17:01 dansmith gibi: thanks
17:17:20 lyarwood dansmith: did you want to backport this?
17:17:45 dansmith lyarwood: we don't really need to, as I don't think the glance part will get backported
17:17:48 lyarwood dansmith: if you do could you add a bug otherwise this LGTM
17:17:57 lyarwood dansmith: an ack then I'll +W
17:17:59 lyarwood ah*
17:17:59 dansmith thanks
17:18:26 dansmith if we backported the enforcement in glance, we'd start breaking nova if you yum updated glance before, so I don't think it's a good idea
17:19:37 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Replace blind retry with libvirt event waiting in detach https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/770246
17:30:09 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Only add a USB controller if it's necessary https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/756549
17:53:34 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: libvirt: Remove support for '[libvirt] use_usb_tablet' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/756550
17:54:12 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Make PCI claim NUMA aware during live migration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/748453
17:55:12 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: api-ref: Add notes about volume attach and detach being async https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/768104
17:55:47 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Docs: correct cpu_thread_policy explanation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/765172
18:21:27 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: libvirt: start tracking NUMACell.socket for hosts https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/766816
18:23:22 stephenfin lyarwood: This can wait til after M2, but you should probably look at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-openstackclient/+/771699 at some point
18:23:53 lyarwood stephenfin: ack
18:23:59 stephenfin Suggestions for how to make that less horrific for users are welcome, though I think that's just part of the complexity of BDM v2, unfortunately :-(
18:24:11 lyarwood stephenfin: speaking of M2 would you mind hitting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova-specs/+/771474 again
18:24:18 stephenfin sure
18:55:14 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/os-traits master: WIP: Add COMPUTE_SOCKET_PCI_NUMA_AFFINITY trait https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/os-traits/+/771705
18:55:38 artom Oh we get notified in both channels eh
19:01:46 sean-k-mooney all the placment and os traits related stuff is now here
19:02:04 artom So is -placement ded?
19:02:11 sean-k-mooney kind of
19:02:16 artom zombie?
19:02:29 sean-k-mooney i mean i think most of us are still there too
19:02:46 sean-k-mooney but gibi is ptl of both currently and three really isnt much of a placment core team
19:02:53 sean-k-mooney at least that is active
19:32:01 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Add reference docs for internal block device structures https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/771711

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