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#openstack-nova - 2020-11-10
12:16:49 sean-k-mooney oh you removed the parent of the grenade job by mistake but https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742056/ corrects it and movs to v3
12:31:56 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: could we make the multinode grenade job nonvoting until https://review.opendev.org/#/c/742056/ is merged
12:32:45 sean-k-mooney i think we also will need to use the cloud archive to get libvirt 6.0 for some of the other stable branches
12:32:53 sean-k-mooney that have to run on bionic
12:34:28 sean-k-mooney am i correct in assuming ussuri proably has support for blockdev too or was that added in victoria
12:34:47 sean-k-mooney https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1901739/comments/6 is the root cause right?
12:34:47 openstack Launchpad bug 1901739 in OpenStack Compute (nova) " libvirt.libvirtError: internal error: missing block job data for disk 'vda'" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood)
12:40:10 sean-k-mooney i think im going to repopose https://opendev.org/openstack/devstack/commit/7f7f488bc385dd707a3a6d8dae7859bbe72182e5 with victoria instead
13:06:42 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Yeah; the workaround is mentioned in the bug as a comment
13:07:13 sean-k-mooney using libvirt 6.0.0
13:07:25 kashyap Yep
13:07:36 sean-k-mooney really that just means we are not fixing the issue form openstack and raising the min libvirt
13:07:41 sean-k-mooney which is not really a good thing
13:07:45 kashyap sean-k-mooney: It's using the legacy "-drive" approach; and the modern one ("-blockdev") should fix it
13:08:00 kashyap sean-k-mooney: It's not an OpenStack issue
13:08:07 sean-k-mooney yep i know
13:08:22 sean-k-mooney and i also know we cant force libvirt to only use drive or blockdev
13:08:30 sean-k-mooney which is why we can workaournd it form nova
13:09:12 sean-k-mooney my point is for all deployments that cant use libvirt 6 there is no way for them to work around this
13:09:28 sean-k-mooney well excpet upgrade
13:09:45 sean-k-mooney anmyway i think the victoia cloud archive had 6.0.0
13:10:04 kashyap Yeah; the whole backports / how far back should upstream support is a tricky thing
13:10:07 sean-k-mooney so im going to bump the version we use in devstack on the older branches
13:10:25 kashyap The answer is: "if you want such backported fixes", use an "enterprise" distro
13:10:35 kashyap (So goes the argument)
13:10:35 sean-k-mooney well no
13:10:49 sean-k-mooney the anser is that libvirt could actully maintain branches and do backports
13:10:57 kashyap Well, they do that
13:10:59 sean-k-mooney they dont which forces distros to do it
13:11:09 kashyap But how you have to backport is an upstream decision
13:11:27 sean-k-mooney yep its just a strange one
13:11:27 kashyap They maintain several "stable" branches
13:11:39 sean-k-mooney very few work the way they do
13:11:50 sean-k-mooney anyway this is simple tweek
13:12:03 sean-k-mooney since it packaged in the uca
13:12:26 kashyap I never claimed it's all perfect :)
13:12:53 sean-k-mooney if it means i dont have to keep rechecking stuff then thats good enough
13:13:11 lyarwood sorry just back from lunch
13:13:33 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: im assuming the zuulv3 patch will take a while to merge
13:13:45 lyarwood hmm that's a good point about the UCA, why isn't the grenade bionic job using it?
13:13:49 sean-k-mooney lyarwood:so im just going to swap to victoria uca which has 6.0.0
13:13:56 sean-k-mooney it is but train
13:13:57 lyarwood ah
13:14:02 lyarwood right kk
13:14:14 sean-k-mooney we when with train when we tought the other qemu detach thing was a focal issue
13:14:17 lyarwood and yeah either way the multinode grenade change isn't simple
13:14:21 sean-k-mooney that gives us 5.2.0
13:14:33 sean-k-mooney on tain i think
13:14:34 lyarwood even calling the old scripts is borked as it assumes we are using devstack-gate etc
13:14:51 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: ack
13:16:25 lyarwood http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/ I don't see Victoria listed here however
13:18:12 kashyap stephenfin: Really nice rework here - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/756551/
13:18:26 kashyap (Also the commit message :))
13:19:19 sean-k-mooney i kind fo feel like using tabels in a commit is cheating but ya it explains things well
13:30:59 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Hehe; what else would you use?
13:31:37 kashyap In my books, it's perfectly fair game to see tables in a commit message :)
13:42:44 stephenfin gibi: Have you seen the comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/738482/ ?
13:46:12 stephenfin gibi: There's a bug report filed for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1903655
13:46:12 openstack Launchpad bug 1903655 in tripleo "Compute component jobs in master branch are failing with ERROR nova nova.exception.DBNotAllowed: nova-compute attempted direct database access which is not allowed by policy" [Critical,Triaged]
13:50:53 gibi stephenfin: thanks for the notification, I haven't seen it
13:50:57 gibi yet
13:58:29 gibi I have to be on a call, but after It I will look into it
14:11:48 openstackgerrit Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova-specs master: WIP - Image and flavor defined ephemeral storage encryption https://review.opendev.org/752284
14:13:15 lyarwood ^ reviews welcome on that spec now btw, still WIP but hopefully ready for serious reviews. I'll have PoC code updated this week once I've written the func tests.
14:56:44 sean-k-mooney that does a lot
14:57:10 sean-k-mooney im guessing the duplicaiton is a result of that but havent looke at the test for it in a long time
15:16:32 gibi stephenfin dansmith: I've looked into https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1903655 and it seems that tripleoo configures [api_database]/connection for the nova-compute service and that causes that the service version check assumes that we are in a top level controller service which can access the api database https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/utils.py#L1064-L1072
15:16:33 openstack Launchpad bug 1903655 in tripleo "Compute component jobs in master branch are failing with ERROR nova nova.exception.DBNotAllowed: nova-compute attempted direct database access which is not allowed by policy" [Critical,Triaged]
15:17:08 dansmith gibi: yeah I saw your analysis and I'm sure you're right
15:17:27 gibi is ther a smarter way to decided if we are inside a cell?
15:17:28 dansmith we have other such checks I think, so this is probably just the first time they've hit something fatal to even notice
15:17:37 dansmith no, I think this is a good thing
15:17:59 dansmith although, hmm
15:18:14 dansmith er, yeah, this is just compute that's failing
15:18:25 dansmith so yeah, I think this is good
15:18:34 gibi same could happen with a cell controller as well
15:18:38 gibi I mean a cell conductor
15:18:48 dansmith yep, but that's fine
15:19:29 dansmith a cell conductor shouldn't be, but can be configured with api_connection (for the last few reasons why you might need it), but it'll just survey the whole cluster instead of the cell, but that should be fine
15:20:08 gibi I see, the remaining upcalls
15:20:13 dansmith right
15:22:30 stephenfin gibi: That sounds reasonable. What's the remedy though? I assume we can't simply say "don't do this", at least not without a deprecation window?
15:22:32 gibi OK then now I feel better about asking tripleoo folks to check and fix there nova-cpu.conf
15:23:13 gibi stephenfin: if this is an invalid config then nova-compute is allowed to fail on it
15:23:15 dansmith gibi: definitely. we don't deploy it that way in devstack, and I'm pretty sure we've had and fixed this issue downstream
15:23:25 dansmith I'm surprised the upstream tripleo is still doing it
15:23:38 stephenfin Okay, can we add a check to nova-compute startup to hard fail on that config being present?
15:23:42 stephenfin So the error is more obvious?
15:23:47 dansmith sure
15:24:05 gibi stephenfin: that is a good point, but I think the current service level check runs first and fail first
15:24:23 gibi stephenfin: so I cannot add this to the _inithost
15:24:29 gibi or I can but it is pointless
15:24:44 gibi buuut I might be able add someting to the cmd
15:25:27 dansmith so, we have another such check in rpcapi, and a catch for them doing it wrongly, with a warning to explain
15:26:02 dansmith https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/rpcapi.py#L439-L457
15:26:25 dansmith so, I'm guessing they've also not configured upgrade_levels=auto,
15:26:29 dansmith else they would be exploding there too
15:26:52 gibi could be, my tripleoo knowledge is close to 0
15:27:18 sean-k-mooney i think we have a down stream bug for this
15:27:23 dansmith point being, this is not a new behavior or requirement

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