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#openstack-nova - 2020-09-30
10:35:55 sean-k-mooney e.g. if you put the nova state dir on shared storage you must set a config flag instead of detecting it
10:36:07 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: oh, well yeah that would be nicer
10:36:17 sean-k-mooney yep an ooo or whatever could set that
10:36:18 lyarwood also TIL about [libvirt]/remote_filesystem_transport
10:36:30 lyarwood I didn't think rsync would support that
10:36:43 sean-k-mooney rsync can be used to copy the disk
10:37:02 sean-k-mooney i am not sure about the detection of the shared filesystem
10:37:46 sean-k-mooney but ya https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/cff7382fb3de4eef7aeddc34b6ae3409cbe50ea0/nova/virt/libvirt/volume/remotefs.py#L201
10:38:02 lyarwood yeah looks like it can also do that
10:38:27 sean-k-mooney oh cause it can create the file on the dest and see if it shows up on the source
10:38:34 lyarwood yeah
10:38:46 lyarwood haha we create the dir and rsync it across, of course.
10:40:23 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: what was you issue by the way i did not read all of scrollback
10:41:06 lyarwood I don't think there was an issue, he just wanted to drop the use of ssh
10:41:21 sean-k-mooney ah ok
10:41:40 sean-k-mooney mnaser ask about the same about 2 weeks ago. e.g. could you drop ssh
10:42:14 sean-k-mooney i suggested an rpc at that time too although the config value occured to me after
10:44:06 tobias-urdin sean-k-mooney: my deployment assumed that no ssh access was required and since our resize operations never changed the destination host in the past i never hit the ssh issue
10:44:23 tobias-urdin and I was assuming ssh access was only needed when supporting ephemeral disks
10:44:54 tobias-urdin (we run soley on cinder volumes and images_type=rbd backend)
10:46:24 sean-k-mooney i see
10:46:35 sean-k-mooney images_type=rbd should not need this path
10:46:39 sean-k-mooney we know that is shared
10:46:55 sean-k-mooney so for that case we do not need to check
10:47:18 tobias-urdin which is what i thought as well, apparantely not since resize fails trying to ssh to the destination host
10:47:21 sean-k-mooney we dont support resizing across images_type
10:47:42 tobias-urdin i've been trying to follow the code path
10:47:44 sean-k-mooney tobias-urdin: no i mean we can file a bug for that specific case
10:47:53 sean-k-mooney and we can fix that it should not be needed for rbd
10:48:25 sean-k-mooney we can just add an if around the call and check if the images type is knonw to be shared
10:50:18 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: just reading back, no we still need to check even with images_type=rbd
10:50:22 tobias-urdin that would be great, how can we determine if it's shared?
10:50:30 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: why would we
10:50:43 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: the instance directory and instance storage being shared are two different things
10:50:45 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: we have never supported resizing between host with different backends
10:50:55 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: oh ya your right
10:51:13 sean-k-mooney lyarwood: actully didnt we skip this and revert it for rbd before
10:51:19 lyarwood yeah
10:51:22 lyarwood it's checking again now
10:51:33 lyarwood as the skip broke when the instance directory wasn't shared
10:51:43 sean-k-mooney ya
10:52:02 sean-k-mooney is there anything in the instance directory we care about by the way
10:52:16 sean-k-mooney config drive maybe?
10:52:30 lyarwood yeah that the console log
10:52:35 sean-k-mooney the console log not really
10:52:36 lyarwood and maybe other things, I forget
10:52:45 sean-k-mooney it will be cleared when the vm is started again
10:52:58 lyarwood right but this path is also used during LM
10:53:12 sean-k-mooney ah ok
10:53:36 sean-k-mooney ya so config option of rpc are the only things we can do then
10:54:23 sean-k-mooney well in the rbd case there is one other thing we could do but its a bit of a hack
10:54:41 sean-k-mooney mount the instance dir in an rbd volumn
10:55:31 sean-k-mooney or on cephfs but nova doing that is a bit of a hack
10:55:40 sean-k-mooney its really something the installer should do
10:59:21 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: yeah this is all just debt from the early days of Nova
10:59:34 lyarwood sean-k-mooney: we could rework this now or just live with it
11:07:16 noonedeadpunk hey everyone! question: is it possible that during resize siolated aggregates are just ignored?
11:08:02 noonedeadpunk as I have a host which is in the isolated agrregate, and vm's are not created on it. but, during vm resize it catched it...
11:08:49 noonedeadpunk it's on train though
11:09:29 ralonsoh frickler, sorry again. What do you mean with "not in ovs"?
11:09:48 ralonsoh related to http://paste.openstack.org/show/798558/
11:10:15 ralonsoh maybe I'm wrong but this command is executed from nova-compute
11:10:47 ralonsoh I checked oslo_concurrency but this is just a library and fix should be in nova too
11:11:05 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: i dont think it should change the behavior
11:11:19 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: which form of isolated aggreates are you using
11:11:35 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: tenant isolation or the placement/traits based isolated aggreates
11:12:11 noonedeadpunk placement traits
11:12:20 noonedeadpunk but once you said that...
11:12:26 sean-k-mooney we shoudl be using the traits request form the new flavor
11:12:30 noonedeadpunk how can I make tenant isolation?:)
11:13:09 noonedeadpunk so right now aggregate looks like this in nova http://paste.openstack.org/show/798568/
11:13:23 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/filters/aggregate_multitenancy_isolation.py
11:13:25 noonedeadpunk and no flavors or images have this trait set..
11:13:58 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: that traceback i think is an eventlet issue
11:14:22 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, yes, related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1863021
11:14:22 openstack Launchpad bug 1863021 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "[SRU] eventlet monkey patch results in assert len(_active) == 1 AssertionError" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Chris MacNaughton (chris.macnaughton)
11:14:30 ralonsoh but that should be already fixed in Nova
11:14:39 noonedeadpunk sean-k-mooney: I guess tenant aggregation will allow other tenants to create instances in this aggregate?
11:14:45 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: ya so the approch they are takign to fix it is a hack
11:14:51 noonedeadpunk *tenant isolation
11:14:58 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: the real fix is to fix eventlets
11:15:03 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, I know, but works for now
11:15:32 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, what I don't understand is why this is failing when calling processutils.execute
11:15:47 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: because olso need to be fixed
11:15:56 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, but this is just a library
11:16:01 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: im pretty sure i sent an email about this a few months ago
11:16:11 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: yes
11:16:19 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, sorry, I don't get it
11:16:21 sean-k-mooney ralonsoh: this need to be fixed in the libs too
11:16:42 sean-k-mooney we use processutils.execute comes form oslo
11:16:51 ralonsoh sean-k-mooney, but, and I could be wrong, when we call .execute, the fix is called
11:17:08 ralonsoh we are calling this from a monkey patched process with the "fix"
11:17:09 sean-k-mooney not if its executed via privsep
11:17:17 ralonsoh oh my...
11:17:21 ralonsoh ok, got it!!!
11:17:53 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: you enabled the placment prefilter for this in the nova.conf too right
11:19:16 sean-k-mooney noonedeadpunk: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#scheduler.enable_isolated_aggregate_filtering
11:19:25 noonedeadpunk sean-k-mooney: I think I just set `enable_isolated_aggregate_filtering`
11:19:30 noonedeadpunk yeah
11:19:56 noonedeadpunk and actually VMs are not created on host. the only one which is wrong placed for the last month is this one

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