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#openstack-nova - 2020-02-07
19:25:46 dansmith it really depends on what the result is
19:25:55 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674726/
19:26:01 sean-k-mooney its was a nova patch
19:26:11 dansmith if it's data corruption, state intervention required, etc then it needs a check to be graceful
19:26:22 dansmith if it fails in some reasonable way then I'm not so concerned
19:26:42 sean-k-mooney dansmith: i think libvirt will raise an error
19:27:03 sean-k-mooney qemu will reject a migration if the domain has a hostdev that is not of type usb
19:27:20 dansmith for live migration I assume, but based on the changes we've made to the flow, I'm not sure what will happen on resize
19:27:20 sean-k-mooney so we will get to the migrate call and it will fail
19:27:24 sean-k-mooney yes
19:27:28 dansmith we might migrate the instance and ignore the fact that it's missing an accelerator
19:27:59 sean-k-mooney ya i dont know what will happen for resize evacuate or shelve
19:28:01 sean-k-mooney ill find out
19:28:05 dansmith if live fails in a predictable and recoverable way, then I'm fine without a check on that one,
19:28:22 dansmith which is what I said earlier that virt-specific limitations shouldn't be enforced in the api when we can help it
19:29:45 Sundar dansmith, sean-k-mooney: FWIW, IMHO, an explicit check for device profiles in extra specs, as in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674726/, is probably the safest and clearest to the user.
19:30:26 Sundar We did say that it should be documentation only. But I don;t know if folks will read Cborg dics, or any docs, before kicking off an op.
19:31:24 sean-k-mooney Sundar: the main issue with that patch was it was too agressive in what it blocked
19:31:27 Sundar *Cyborg docs
19:31:39 sean-k-mooney and users never read docs until it breaks
19:31:58 Sundar sean-k-mooney: The details of the patch can be adjusted.
19:32:38 Sundar dansmith, efried, gibi, sean-k-mooney: Would you all recommend to bring back https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674726/?
19:36:02 sean-k-mooney i would not restore it as is. if we add code to block it we shoudl only block the operation we know do not work.
19:38:21 sean-k-mooney that change blocks all snapshoting and backups, and interface and volume atache/removal and other operations like rescue and lock.
19:39:53 sean-k-mooney blocking resize,live-migrate and evacuate might make sense. the rest i think are questionable
19:40:38 sean-k-mooney also blocking shelve might make sense but again we said document and fix as bugfixes so we could adress them one by one without api changes for each
19:42:44 Sundar "Without API changes" -- are you thinking of microversion changes for blocking now and end every unblock in the future, if we support more ops?
19:43:39 Sundar *and every
19:43:48 sean-k-mooney yes im saying we didnt want to do a microversion bump for evey one
19:47:18 sean-k-mooney speaking of op i just booted a vm with your latest revision so ill go test some of them
19:48:23 Sundar Sure. Thanks.
19:50:08 sean-k-mooney my isp broke my home network so its takeing longer then i hoped to test this. i might set up the multi node setup on my laptop instead of my home openstack on monday but ill do what i can on a singel node first
20:09:13 efried Sundar: I've always been in favor of that idea (blocking unsupported operations with a useful message rather than letting them fail "organically" and mysteriously), but I know others disagree.
20:11:25 sean-k-mooney for what its worth i have just done boot,stop,start,reboot,add/remove volume, rescue/unrescue and so far no errors
20:11:56 sean-k-mooney i am not seeing any real interaction with cyborg during those operations
20:12:42 sean-k-mooney which is more or less expected but im not sure if we would loss the acclerator when we regenerate the xml
20:13:26 sean-k-mooney i will look at this more closely next week but right now im just check to make sure the operation complette correctly
20:29:01 Sundar sean-k-mooney: Great. FWIW, I do most of these with FPGAs. Except rescue/unrescue with different images. The list of ops i have checked are in: https://review.opendev.org/673735
20:29:44 sean-k-mooney im still makeing my way through the list.
20:30:11 sean-k-mooney im hoping to get access to a real server with a rush creek or vista creek next week or the week after
20:30:20 sean-k-mooney which one are you using again?
20:31:09 sean-k-mooney i have jsut done add/remove network interface, pause,unpause, suspend,resume, lock,unlock and rebuild
20:31:13 Sundar Rush Creek, DCP 1.2
20:31:40 sean-k-mooney cool we have 1 server i think with one of each so ill ask for the rush creek system
20:31:56 Sundar OPAE version 1.1.2-1
20:32:26 Sundar The OPAE packages come with some sample bitstreams, sp. NLB modes 0 and 3. I use both.
20:33:58 Sundar I can also be reached at ns1.sundar AT gmail DOT com if there is a need for more detailed responses or file transfers.
20:35:29 Sundar I have some utility functions to create/delete device profiles, ARQs using curl. ould be happy to share them if you prefer.
20:37:01 sean-k-mooney im just using the openstack client and i have a test script
20:38:26 Sundar The openstack client is WIP. There are patches to recast it to use openstacksdk etc. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681391/
20:38:48 sean-k-mooney yep im using that
20:39:02 sean-k-mooney with the openstacksdk patch too
20:39:26 sean-k-mooney there are a bunch of design issue with it that should be adressed but its kind of useable
20:40:11 sean-k-mooney like when you create a device profile you can only spify its name not the uuid but it only allows you to show a device profile by uuid not name
20:40:53 Sundar Yea, agreed. The APIs allow both name and uuid though.
20:41:12 sean-k-mooney yep so the patches are just incomplete
20:41:22 sean-k-mooney i have worked around that
20:42:08 Sundar Do you have any pointers for me to look at the rescheduling question?
20:43:37 sean-k-mooney i have not read the question so no. i was going to try and force it by making the vm spawn fail
20:44:29 sean-k-mooney ok so first bug. when i shelve the instance the arq is still bound to the host when the vm is shevle_offloaded
20:45:01 Sundar Yup, I have not added support for shelve. The Delete ARQ patch states what I support.
20:45:25 sean-k-mooney yep but we want to check them all anyway
20:46:01 Sundar Basically, I prioritized the basic ops. I asked some folks outside Intel what they do with FPGAs in their lab with Cyborg, and went with that.
20:47:56 sean-k-mooney ya which is fine. unshevel "works" but i dont see any interacation with cyborg os i suspect it would not have the accellerator attached after unshelve.
20:48:08 sean-k-mooney again thats fine we just need to document it
20:49:32 Sundar ok
20:50:25 sean-k-mooney ok so after unshelve the allocations do not container the fake device so ya that means the device woudl be lsot
20:54:14 sean-k-mooney it looks like resize to a different flavor and then back does not fix the placement allcoation
20:54:20 sean-k-mooney it did however complete
20:58:49 Sundar Yes, I have only tested with resize to the same flavor, which is of course a no op. I was just making sure that there is no basic gotcha.
20:59:30 sean-k-mooney this is what i tested with the fake driver today
20:59:32 sean-k-mooney http://paste.openstack.org/show/789306/
20:59:56 sean-k-mooney Sundar: resize to same flavor should be blocked in the api
21:00:00 sean-k-mooney it is in the client
21:00:13 sean-k-mooney you can migrate but resize to same flavor is invalid
21:01:22 Sundar remove-vol/net: unrelated to Cyborg, right?
21:01:50 sean-k-mooney yes but you blocked them in your patch that check for the flavor extra spec
21:01:56 sean-k-mooney they seam to work fine
21:02:05 Sundar Suspend will not work with real FPGAs, because libvirt will error out with: Domain has assigned non-USB devices.
21:02:07 sean-k-mooney at least with the fake dirver
21:02:38 sean-k-mooney suspend shoudl do a managed save which will detach all hostdev devices
21:02:46 Sundar delete failed?
21:02:49 sean-k-mooney yes
21:03:12 sean-k-mooney it failed in the last versions too
21:03:34 sean-k-mooney the conductor explodes with an unexpected respoce form cyborg
21:03:48 sean-k-mooney when it tries to delete /unbind the arqs
21:04:03 Sundar Hmm, please send me the logs. I do deletes all the time, but your sequence of ops probably triggered something.
21:04:39 sean-k-mooney i found that was broken just with boot then delete two days ago
21:04:56 sean-k-mooney ill need to unstack and stack to be able to test it again
21:05:18 Sundar I'll try boot + delete. Was it hard reboot?
21:06:36 sean-k-mooney no just boot then delete
21:06:47 sean-k-mooney hardreboot seams to be fine
21:08:23 sean-k-mooney Sundar: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sean-cyborg-testing-delete-logs
21:08:36 sean-k-mooney paste.openstack.org isnt loadign for me
21:08:44 sean-k-mooney but that is all the nova and cyborg logs
21:10:19 sean-k-mooney it look like the cyborg api returned a 401
21:12:19 Sundar devstack@cyborg-api.service[26903]: 2020-02-07 20:56:05.719 .... Authorization failed for token: keystonemiddleware.auth_token._exceptions.InvalidToken: Token authorization failed.
21:12:53 sean-k-mooney yep
21:13:35 sean-k-mooney so the call to cyborg either need an admin token which i dont think is correct or the token expired and you need to handel that
21:14:29 sean-k-mooney deleting the vm again does not fix it by they way

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