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#openstack-nova - 2020-02-06
14:14:56 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova-specs master: move implemented spec for train https://review.opendev.org/706276
14:18:46 umbSublime o/
14:29:00 dansmith gibi_on_call: re: cyborg, know that I'm about +2 on the rest of the set aside from the second patch I've been deferring to efried on.. hopefully no major concerns as it's been a looong road :)
14:30:38 bauzas efried: you're always using this acronym : NTF
14:30:49 bauzas what's this ?
14:31:55 efried bauzas: NumaTopologyFilter, sorry
14:32:04 bauzas oh ah
14:32:08 bauzas gdi
14:32:12 bauzas thanks
14:38:31 artom stephenfin, cheers! I'll do a proper review soon
14:49:02 bauzas sean-k-mooney: question for you
14:49:28 bauzas sean-k-mooney: if I want 8VCPUs, 8GB of RAM and hw:numa_nodes=2
14:49:35 bauzas does my memory split in twice ?
14:51:27 sean-k-mooney yes and if you cant devidie the vcpus and ram an integage number of times it raise an error
14:51:41 sean-k-mooney so if you didn 8VCPUs, 8GB of RAM and hw:numa_nodes=3
14:52:04 sean-k-mooney then its an error unless you also use the other args for asymetric numa toplogies
14:52:24 bauzas what kind of error ?
14:54:00 bauzas sean-k-mooney: it only tells that it raises an exception in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/flavors.html#extra-specs
14:54:30 brinzhang gmann: are you around?
14:55:28 sean-k-mooney yes it raise an exception and the vm goes to error state
14:56:10 sean-k-mooney bauzas: actully the vm wont go to error
14:56:22 sean-k-mooney it will rais the excptionin the api before we create teh vm db record
14:56:33 bauzas cool, that's what I hoped
14:56:37 bauzas a synchronous 40x
14:56:53 sean-k-mooney proably a 400 bad request
14:56:57 bauzas because we also need to make it for the translation mechanism
14:57:03 sean-k-mooney a 4xx for sure
14:57:03 bauzas ideally, same exception
14:57:30 brinzhang efried: how about now? :)
14:57:32 sean-k-mooney ya so this is all handeled in the hardware.py module
14:57:46 sean-k-mooney and its reused in several places
14:58:23 efried brinzhang: for which? The spec review?
14:58:56 sean-k-mooney bauzas: its all handeled by https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/014c1ab864cec6213750c5ef57d8080ae8cd973d/nova/virt/hardware.py#L1742
14:59:00 brinzhang efried: I added a new policy to the os-instance-action https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706179/2/nova/policies/instance_actions.py@27, but while run the unit test in cmd.test_policy, it was failed, and the "passing_rules " cannot get the new rule 'os_compute_api:os-instance-actions:show_details
14:59:24 bauzas sean-k-mooney: thanks, looking
14:59:38 bauzas okay, will look
14:59:54 brinzhang efried:https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/unit/cmd/test_policy.py#L119 the check function is here
15:00:18 Sundar efried, dansmith, sean-k-mooney: Re. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/631243/55/nova/accelerator/cyborg.py@86, I am adding checks for keystone exceptions here. However, if this 'get device profile' call fails, there will be no further calls to Cyborg for that instance. So, there is no point in adding redundant exception checks to other calls for
15:00:18 Sundar creating ARQs, etc. Do you agree?
15:00:48 sean-k-mooney bauzas: the importnt bit for you is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/014c1ab864cec6213750c5ef57d8080ae8cd973d/nova/compute/api.py#L925 in _validate_and_build_base_options
15:01:15 dansmith Sundar: you should assume every call to another service could fail
15:01:29 bauzas sean-k-mooney: anyway, I'll write something in the spec and you'll chime in
15:01:54 efried brinzhang: I'm afraid I have no clue about this. I would have to dig in fresh, and I don't have time to do that right now. However, I think gmann might be able to address your questions much more easily.
15:01:54 sean-k-mooney bauzas: cool
15:02:06 efried brinzhang: not sure where he is...
15:02:25 bauzas basically, my concern is 'I want 8 vCPUs, 7GB of RAM and hw:numa_nodes=2', accordingly the RAM has to be provided by two different memory pages that are in each NUMA nodes
15:02:29 bauzas sean-k-mooney: ^
15:02:54 bauzas meaning that the translation mechanism will split this memory amount in twice (or more)
15:02:58 stephenfin I want to use an unreleased feature in neutronclient in a nova patch. For 'Depends-On' to work, I need to to add 'python-neutronclient' to 'required-projects' in '.zuul.yaml', right?
15:03:02 sean-k-mooney ya you dont need to wory about that really
15:03:06 brinzhang efried: ok, I will wait him, and I pinged him another question too, I will wait for him ,thanks
15:03:34 sean-k-mooney if the requst_spec has a numa_toplogy objct its a numa instnace and all of that has already been calualted
15:03:41 efried bauzas: yes, that sounds correct to me
15:03:48 sean-k-mooney so you just need to read the value form the numa toplogy object
15:04:22 efried stephenfin: yes, that sounds correct. But we wouldn't want to merge that change.
15:04:28 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Use neutronclient's port binding APIs https://review.opendev.org/706295
15:04:31 stephenfin efried: Yup, just a WIP for now
15:04:53 efried stephenfin: and that only works for zv3 jobs btw, not for legacy (IIUC)
15:04:59 sean-k-mooney Sundar: im goign to redeploy with the latest patches are they all updated
15:05:30 Sundar dansmith: Yes, but we are talking of failures like EndpointNotFound, MissingAuthPlugin, and Unauthorized. If the first call succeeds, is the second one going to fail for one of these reasons?
15:05:36 sean-k-mooney you said you tought i was using an old set of cybog pataches when you looked at the error i got on monday but that was the latest set that were up at that point
15:05:44 Sundar sean-k-mooney: Great, thanks
15:05:59 dansmith Sundar: no, this is a distributed system.. you should never make that assumption
15:06:17 mriosfer Sean: if host got two sockets , is recomended to "force" hw:numa_nodes=2 ? If vcpus are more 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 etc...
15:06:26 efried Sundar: If you wanted to trap those failures (you can use the superclass ClientException) and convert them to DeviceProfileError("Couldn't communicate with cyborg!") I think that would be okay.
15:06:42 dansmith Sundar: calls from nova to cyborg (and back) may be routed to different api endpoints on subsequent calls, in different states of broken, misconfigured, or transient upgrade
15:06:47 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use neutronclient's port binding APIs https://review.opendev.org/706295
15:06:52 sean-k-mooney mriosfer: that depens on your workloads but i do for larger vms
15:06:54 dansmith efried: agreed
15:07:06 stephenfin kashyap: np, I figured it would just be easier do it myself real quick. No skin off my back
15:07:12 mriosfer Sean : larger VM from 8 vcpu?
15:07:15 mriosfer or more
15:07:25 sean-k-mooney for small vms of 4-8 CPUs i will often keep them with hw:numa_nodes=1
15:07:39 sean-k-mooney ya over 8 i tend to always split
15:07:48 openstackgerrit Brian Rosmaita proposed openstack/nova master: Do not inherit cinder_ image properties https://review.opendev.org/706298
15:07:49 sean-k-mooney to hw:numa_nodes=2
15:08:04 stephenfin dansmith: That neutron fix yesterday was incomplete, btw. ralonsoh and I worked out the fix this morning if you care to look again https://review.opendev.org/#/c/706213/
15:08:22 dansmith stephenfin: I'm reading now
15:08:26 stephenfin ta
15:08:52 sean-k-mooney but that is based on host core counts of 10-16 cores per socket. if you have 32 cores per socket then you might adjust what you consider big
15:08:57 mtreinish stephenfin: thanks for the reminder, I'll re-review that PR today or tomorrow
15:08:58 dansmith stephenfin: where is the code that actually uses this?
15:09:23 stephenfin dansmith: Just nova/api/openstack/compute/floating_ips.py
15:09:52 dansmith stephenfin: "port_details" is not in that file
15:10:00 dansmith do you mean it just passes through the structure to the api requester?
15:10:04 Sundar efried, dansmith: Got it. Yes, I would handle service failures in distributed systems in general. I asked because I don't see these specific checks everywhere e.g. https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/image/glance.py . But, I agree it is better to do it everywhere.
15:10:29 stephenfin dansmith: sure it is - line 40
15:11:10 mtreinish stephenfin: the only thing is we're in prep for 3.0.0 (which removes 2.7). So that PR probably won't get released until then which we're shooting for mid-March
15:11:30 dansmith stephenfin: % grep -c port_details nova/api/openstack/compute/floating_ips.py
15:11:31 dansmith 0
15:12:11 stephenfin dansmith: It's definitely there :) https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/floating_ips.py#L40
15:12:34 dansmith oh is this a recent change? /me rebases
15:13:01 sean-k-mooney dansmith: stephenfin started usign it as part of the nova net removal
15:13:07 sean-k-mooney so yes
15:13:15 dansmith yeah I see
15:13:15 stephenfin Yup, it was picked up in one of the "Stop using nova-network objects as containers" patches
15:13:42 sean-k-mooney so floating ips are not ports and do not normally have port details
15:13:42 stephenfin mtreinish: That's okay. To be honest, the more crucial fix is the subunit fix and I need lifeless for that
15:13:46 dansmith okay just wanted to see what used it and that it was okay with None
15:14:02 sean-k-mooney there is a neutorn extnion to expose the port_details of the prot that they are attached too when attached

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