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#openstack-nova - 2019-09-09
13:34:29 artom ganso, openstack --help, you'll see an option named something like --os-compute-api-version
13:34:46 artom ganso, osc defaults to using the lowest possible microversion, aka 2.1
13:35:01 sean-k-mooney mriedem: ok well im beign conservitve and wanted to get some confidence form the periodic job before proposing that.
13:35:01 ganso artom: thanks!
13:35:25 artom ganso, also, in the future, please direct similar questions to #openstack (see /topic)
13:35:32 mriedem the help on that osc command should be updated to mention using 2.40 or above for paging otherwise the user would have no way of knowing that w/o looking at code
13:36:16 ganso artom: will do! thank you very much!
13:36:18 ganso mriedem: +1
13:37:41 openstackgerrit Brin Zhang proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Microversion 2.79: Add delete_on_termination to volume-attach API https://review.opendev.org/673485
13:38:41 brinzhang mriedem: Done of that reabased.
13:39:27 luyao dansmith: Hi Dan, could you have a look again at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678447/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678448/, about 'resource' db and object. I'll appreciate that .
13:55:52 stephenfin If I cold migrate an instance but don't confirm it, I should expect to see VCPU usage for the instance on both the source and destination, right?
13:56:48 bauzas stephenfin: what's your concern ?
13:56:53 bauzas allocations, you mean ?
13:57:00 stephenfin yeah
13:57:04 stephenfin allocations
13:57:04 bauzas if so, yeah
13:57:12 stephenfin an allocation for the instance, an allocation for the migration record
13:57:16 bauzas correct
13:57:23 artom stephenfin, you mean based on other existing behaviour?
13:57:35 artom I believe so - the instance is consuming resources on the source, the migration on the dest
13:57:41 stephenfin sweet
13:58:00 bauzas the original allocation is transformed to have the consumer to be the migration UUID instead of the instance
13:58:18 bauzas and then we create a new allocation for the instance
13:58:32 bauzas having the consumer be the instance UUID
13:58:45 bauzas artom: the other way
13:59:02 artom bauzas, I was talking about the old-school resources tracker
13:59:06 stephenfin next question: I thought by default a cold migration would never land on another host, but that's not what I'm seeing in functional tests
13:59:13 artom ... which I guess stephenfin no longer cares about?
13:59:24 bauzas artom: stephenfin: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/queens/implemented/migration-allocations.html
13:59:58 artom stephenfin, other way around, I think
14:00:11 artom By default it always goes to different host
14:00:19 bauzas correct ^
14:00:20 stephenfin artom: yeah, sorry, never land on the _same_ host
14:00:27 artom And then if you set the allow_resize_to_same_host option, it can land on the same host
14:00:30 bauzas unless you modify an option $
14:00:35 bauzas yeah what artom said
14:00:36 artom (Or whatever it's called)
14:00:50 bauzas artom: that is the correct option name
14:02:01 stephenfin weeird
14:02:11 stephenfin there must be something else going on here so
14:02:18 artom stephenfin, so, dunno if this is relevant, but while working on the the NUMA LM func tests, I noticed there was an issue in how you started computes with different fakelibvirt connections for each
14:02:26 stephenfin shoot
14:02:47 artom stephenfin, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/672595/45/nova/tests/functional/libvirt/base.py
14:03:14 artom Again, no idea if that's what's causing your thing now, but could be relevant
14:04:01 stephenfin oh, fun
14:12:55 stephenfin artom: The other approach is this one https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678470/24/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/fakelibvirt.py
14:13:11 stephenfin which I think accomplishes much the same thing
14:13:35 stephenfin there are quite a few in-flight changes with those files atm :)
14:15:09 openstackgerrit Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Follow-up: Add delete_on_termination to volume-attach API https://review.opendev.org/680655
14:15:28 artom stephenfin, and then you stub that connection into each compute manager I guess?
14:15:53 artom Oh, that's not your patch
14:15:54 artom Hrmm
14:17:02 kashyap aspiers: Any reason you know this method is in virt/hardware.py -- _get_flavor_image_meta()? It can be used by "non-hardware"-related features, too
14:17:15 aspiers kashyap: git blame?
14:17:17 kashyap Maybe a question for stephenfin, as he wrote that :-)
14:17:37 kashyap aspiers: Already did; 48e0c000fefe561ec5cfa1364ef2cac2f6ce9244
14:18:37 kashyap aspiers: stephenfin: Actually, disregard...it makes sense, because of the 'hw' key :D
14:35:19 dansmith mriedem: assume you'll take another trip through the numa patches today? I'm about to start into the forbidden garden of aggregates
14:35:53 bhagyashris mriedem: Hi
14:36:30 mriedem dansmith: i was going over them over the weekend but stopped short of the big one
14:36:38 mriedem waiting on ci results in the special job
14:36:42 dansmith ah cool
14:37:00 mriedem https://review.opendev.org/#/c/635229/ has new wizardry that is going to require stephenfin and/or sean-k-mooney
14:42:33 sean-k-mooney mriedem: is that the patch you had question relating to the xml generation on
14:44:36 sean-k-mooney mriedem: if there is a specific thing you wanted me to look at i can do it quickly otherwise im going to finish with stephenfin series then start on artoms
14:45:46 artom sean-k-mooney, the new allocation_cpu_tuning, to cover the case when an instance with no NUMA topology is on a host with vcpu_pin_set
14:45:59 sean-k-mooney ah right
14:46:16 sean-k-mooney this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/635229/60/nova/virt/libvirt/migration.py@101
14:46:21 artom So actually the field is new in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/634827/
14:46:47 artom sean-k-mooney, well, PS61 is the latest but yeah
14:47:20 dansmith efried: shilpasd: I found something else on the base patch for forbidden aggregates
14:47:45 dansmith I'm pretty sure we don't deepcopy() the default value, which is why I did default=None for the "aggregates" field right above it.
14:48:11 dansmith either way, it should be consistent I think, and I expect =None is more clearly safe than a default of something mutable (like mutable default arguments for methods in python)
14:48:41 sean-k-mooney mriedem: artom so the context for this is that since we added the vcpu_pin_set option, if you have used it we have relied on operators ensuring that all host in the same host aggrate/availablity zone (depending on how you choose to defien the region you can live migrate vm within) has vcpu_pin_set set to the same value
14:49:13 shilpasd dansmith: Thanks for review
14:49:56 dansmith shilpasd: does my comment make sense?
14:50:10 dansmith shilpasd: also, if you're not able to make this change right away I could probably just do it myself
14:50:18 sean-k-mooney mriedem: more specifically if you define vcpu_pin_set we copy the value into <vcpu cpuset=vcpu_pin_set> for all instnace but we never updated that on live migration
14:50:39 shilpasd dansmith: yes, your comment make sense, will have test cases with default config (i.e. no filter remove or append) and with remove and with append
14:50:53 sean-k-mooney so since artom is fixing it for numa instance we asked him to fix non numa instance too
14:51:03 mriedem sean-k-mooney: the config option help for that says nothing about that assumption/requirement https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.vcpu_pin_set
14:51:03 stephenfin TIL 'functional.libvirt.base.ServersTestBase' uses API v2.0 by default. That's two hours I won't get back \o/
14:51:30 dansmith shilpasd: oh you're talking about the later one
14:51:40 dansmith shilpasd: I +2d that already, so don't change it, and/or change it in a followup
14:51:53 dansmith shilpasd: I _just_ left a more complicated comment on the base patch, so go look at that real quick
14:52:00 sean-k-mooney mriedem: that is the entire orginal reason it was intoduced. to define the set of cpu that guest can run on. it was not just for pinned/numa instance
14:52:43 mriedem sean-k-mooney: ok....that doesn't mean much to me since i'm not familiar with when or why that was added,
14:52:50 mriedem i'm just saying, "if you have used it we have relied on operators ensuring that all host in the same host aggrate/availablity zone (depending on how you choose to defien the region you can live migrate vm within) has vcpu_pin_set set to the same value" is not documented
14:53:07 mriedem so undocumented assertions are kind of....hairy
14:53:31 artom mriedem, yep, which why with this new allocation_cpu_tuning stuff, it won't be necessary
14:53:47 artom Previously we hoped both dest and source had it set the same for LM to work
14:53:55 artom Now we handle them being different
14:53:56 mriedem i see there is a todo about it in https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/flavors.html?highlight=vcpu_pin_set
14:54:08 sean-k-mooney mriedem: ah ok its not documented upstream correct. it used to be documented in intels referece architecure as the way we advised people to partition cpu for the host/guest
14:54:47 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Add reshaper for PCPU https://review.opendev.org/674895
14:55:24 sean-k-mooney mriedem: the behavior if you did not have them the same was that provide all the cores existed on the destinatinon, the migration would suceeed but the vm would use the wrong cores until it was hard rebooted
14:55:39 sean-k-mooney mriedem: if the core did not exist on the dest host then libvirt would reject the migration
14:55:59 sean-k-mooney so it was a self correcting problem once the guest hard rebooted
14:56:16 mriedem super

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