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#openstack-nova - 2019-09-03
13:58:26 bauzas and you don't imagine how much are forgetting to ask for a specific incentive they're allowed to
13:58:33 artom Dixit woman: "hrrroooo, qu'est ce c'est mal foutu"
13:58:40 bauzas LOL
13:59:04 bhagyashris mriedem: Hi, I would like your insights on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/612626/
13:59:18 bauzas artom: I assume it's a very typical French person that's becoming rare : someone not living close to an Ikea store
13:59:36 bauzas I know those people exist, but I never met them yet
14:00:26 luyao efried: comments addressed for patch series https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/virtual-persistent-memory+(status:open), thanks for reviewing
14:00:34 bauzas and I personnally consider my house as an Ikea showroom
14:02:24 bauzas stephenfin: not sure you saw my comment on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679745/1
14:02:45 sean-k-mooney efried: so as intersting as ^ is i take it you dont intend to run for PTL again or do you plan to serve for another term
14:05:10 bauzas there is still 24 hours left
14:05:15 bauzas -ish
14:05:30 sean-k-mooney artom: let me know when you push your local version so i can test. im still getting the same error with the same vcpu_pin_set on each host
14:05:36 bauzas oh dear no
14:05:38 donnyd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nh6VDxYb/
14:05:42 bauzas PTL Nominations Aug 27, 2019 23:45 UTC Sep 03, 2019 23:45 UTC
14:05:51 sean-k-mooney bauzas: there are like 9 hours left
14:05:55 donnyd https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1dwaNShp/
14:05:57 bauzas well, we can afford a PTL designation
14:06:00 donnyd sean-k-mooney: ^^^
14:06:09 donnyd LMK if those look right to you
14:06:24 stephenfin bauzas: I didn't, but looking at it now I don't think that's we should do that there
14:06:31 sean-k-mooney donnyd: yep they look fine
14:06:46 stephenfin That's a much bigger discussion that what that patch is trying to fix (namely, making sure it's enabled for all the libvirt functional tests)
14:06:57 donnyd project config stuff will be up in a minute
14:07:16 bauzas stephenfin: I don't disagree, I'm just saying that enabling NUMATopologyFilter on *all* libvirt tests is a massive hammer with little justification
14:07:42 sean-k-mooney donnyd: cool ping me when you push it.
14:07:58 bauzas stephenfin: so, honestly, that's why the question is more widely like : if we go with enabling the filter for all tests, then why not enabling it by default ?
14:08:12 sean-k-mooney donnyd: i can proably make the job work on the smaller memory node too or use one of each
14:08:17 bauzas and I know this is a debatable question :)
14:08:24 stephenfin bauzas: It's already enabled for all but two of them, are it _should_ be enabled for one of those two
14:08:46 dansmith artom: so the multi-numa nfv thing is running live migrations with your patches yeah?
14:08:48 efried sean-k-mooney: I haven't decided yet.
14:09:14 cdent dansmith for ptl!
14:09:14 sean-k-mooney dansmith: yes im using depens on to pull in his patches
14:09:27 stephenfin It was enabled for all these tests in test_pci_sriov_servers.py and test_numa_servers.py. It should have been enabled for test_rt_servers.py. The only other one is test_reshape.py. I can disable it for that one, if you'd like?
14:09:42 sean-k-mooney dansmith: if you use depends-on in the same repo it create a merge commit assumeing there is not merge conflcits and runs on that
14:09:48 stephenfin or set it explicitly on the other three. Either one is good with me
14:09:49 bauzas stephenfin: uh
14:09:51 dansmith sean-k-mooney: yeah, I see that's mechanically true, but ... you guys have gone through and seen that it's working?
14:09:53 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: LM: Use Claims to update numa-related XML on the source https://review.opendev.org/635229
14:09:54 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: NUMA live migration support https://review.opendev.org/634606
14:09:54 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Deprecate CONF.workarounds.enable_numa_live_migration https://review.opendev.org/640021
14:09:55 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova master: Functional tests for NUMA live migration https://review.opendev.org/672595
14:10:00 sean-k-mooney dansmith: yes
14:10:01 artom sean-k-mooney, ^^
14:10:11 sean-k-mooney i have used it in the past
14:10:17 artom dansmith, yeah, huge props to sean-k-mooney for getting it set up (and donnyd's hardware!)
14:10:23 dansmith artom: does it look like it's all working?
14:10:23 donnyd https://review.opendev.org/679789
14:10:35 donnyd I don't think I forgot anything
14:10:39 sean-k-mooney dansmith: hugepages are not fully working yet
14:10:44 artom dansmith, needs to run against the latest PSes, as it found issues with hugepages
14:10:50 dansmith artom: okay cool
14:11:11 bauzas stephenfin: honestly, dunno what to say
14:11:51 bauzas stephenfin: maybe just add a little more explanation in the commit msg and then I'll consider having the option set for all libvirt tests to be good enough
14:12:02 sean-k-mooney artom: does that patch have the fixes for hugepages. ill test it locally while we wait for ci
14:12:32 donnyd cdent: which part of FN do you think is faster. I know disk access should be in orders of magnitude faster from local NVME (in raid0)
14:13:01 sean-k-mooney damb raid0 i guess for ci it makes sense
14:13:02 stephenfin bauzas: Sure, lemme do that
14:13:19 stephenfin efried: yo, any chance you could sign these off for me? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678902 https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678861 ?
14:13:24 donnyd sean-k-mooney: yea if something fails.. it just restarts the job on another hypervisor
14:13:34 donnyd so speed is the name of the game for CI...
14:13:40 cdent donnyd: it does seem like it mostly related to disk speed. Where I see it the most is: a) getting log files from the swift hosted on FN, b) the placement performance are consistently faster there
14:13:40 sean-k-mooney donnyd: devstack is hugely io bound
14:13:55 efried stephenfin: looking
14:14:07 stephenfin bauzas: Need any help with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678902, btw? That's probably the trickiest patch of the series
14:14:17 donnyd I would never do that for prod things - but for CI.. go as fast as possible is where I went with it
14:14:37 sean-k-mooney donnyd: well ci is kind of prod.
14:14:42 stephenfin Well, it looks tricky cos it's big. It's not really though
14:14:53 sean-k-mooney donnyd: but i have no issue with raid0 as long as you dont put your database on it
14:15:00 bauzas stephenfin: not sure I understand your question ? Why should I need help on something I reviewed ?
14:15:05 luyao dansmith: Could you look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678448/9 and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678447/https://review.opendev.org/635229. Thanks.
14:15:12 donnyd sean-k-mooney: but if I lose something its not like losing a customers long running instance I can't get back
14:15:22 stephenfin bauzas: Damn, I meant https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671800/
14:15:24 sean-k-mooney donnyd: ya that is ture
14:15:47 donnyd umm.. no.. the controller is setup a little bit more robust
14:15:52 sean-k-mooney donnyd: the could model however is to keep data in sepereate data volumes that are attached to a stateles instance.
14:16:02 bauzas stephenfin: oh this one is too hairy for now, I'll look at it tomorrow morning :)
14:16:05 stephenfin If you modify the address bar in Firefox, it doesn't change as you navigate pages until you refresh the page
14:16:10 luyao dansmith: sorry, they are https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678447/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/678448/9
14:16:12 sean-k-mooney *cloud model
14:16:21 stephenfin So you end up copy-pasting the same thing multiple times
14:16:25 stephenfin bauzas: Heh, cool
14:17:21 donnyd I need to get HA controllers running, however I have to make a choice between # of instances to run and potential for downtime... Heat is my battle here
14:17:36 donnyd I use forced air - NO A/C
14:17:50 stephenfin efried: I know you don't like adding config options without any users, but what about model fields? I feel I should split https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671800/ up so people can focus on the functional changes rather than the noise introduced by the additional field
14:17:53 bauzas oh shit, dadtaxi, yeah
14:18:34 bauzas stephenfin: I'm not worried by the size of the change in question
14:18:55 bauzas anyway, bbiab
14:19:06 donnyd If you think about it - I can push a button and redeploy the whole control plane.. so is two hours of downtime once a year or so worth losing 30 instances in CI
14:19:34 donnyd I made my bets on short downtime being more acceptable than losing CI resources
14:19:43 sean-k-mooney donnyd: well contoler can run vms too
14:19:51 sean-k-mooney donnyd: what are you using to deploy
14:20:04 donnyd Its custom for my infra
14:20:10 sean-k-mooney ah ok
14:20:30 donnyd I was using tripleo - but I couldn't get rabbit to act right
14:21:01 sean-k-mooney donnyd: ya i dont like how tripleo deplfoys rabbit
14:21:26 sean-k-mooney well i dont like how tripleo deploys things in general
14:21:42 donnyd well from my perspective there is a performance hit from running in containers - small but noticeable at my scale

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