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#openstack-nova - 2019-07-29
10:37:26 sean-k-mooney having said that for openstack
10:37:42 sean-k-mooney you would be useing datacenter volume licences
10:37:42 kashyap That sounds incredibly messy
10:37:53 kashyap Regardless, I think it robust to _assume_ it changes
10:39:30 sean-k-mooney well it makes sense. they assume if you buy windows your self. e.g. a retail copy that you might be building your own pc and might upgrade it
10:39:56 sean-k-mooney but if you go windows with your pc e.g. form dell its an oem license
10:40:01 aspiers kashyap: what I see from my SEV machine is lacking some of the bits you see: http://paste.openstack.org/show/755058/
10:40:17 aspiers kashyap: is my libvirt or qemu old or something?
10:40:55 sean-k-mooney and they assume since you baugt prebuilt your not going to swap out the motherboard, you can buy oem license and they are cheaper but its one of the limitations that come with the cost reduction
10:41:51 sean-k-mooney but in either case its against the windows desktop license agreement to use either for systems that are purly virtualised
10:43:03 sean-k-mooney to run windows permently in a vm you need a different licnese (volume licenseing or datacenter) which have different activation critia
11:28:48 sean-k-mooney the nova-next job is ment to test thing that we intend to make the default in a subsequent release right
11:29:17 sean-k-mooney or is it for something else?
11:31:03 sean-k-mooney it looks like it was orignially for placmenet and cells testing when they were optional and for stien was the first full python 3 job? so it evelovs to test the futrue state we expect nova to run in
11:33:04 sean-k-mooney the reason im asking it related to a donwstream converstation about service tokens
11:33:09 sean-k-mooney https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/conf/service_token.py#L18-L42
11:33:28 sean-k-mooney it look like we have not considerd service tokens to be experimental since 2017
11:33:50 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: API microversion 2.75: Add 'power-update' external event https://review.opendev.org/645611
11:33:54 sean-k-mooney and nova-next has been running with them for over 2 years
11:34:33 sean-k-mooney lyarwood has a patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673226/1 to enable them by defualt in devstack but im wondering should we just enable it by default in nova
11:34:57 sean-k-mooney efried: johnthetubaguy bauzas ^ any input on that?
11:46:31 openstackgerrit Huachang Wang proposed openstack/nova master: doc: correct the information of 'cpu_map' https://review.opendev.org/673272
12:09:09 aspiers kashyap: let me know when you're back
12:09:25 aspiers kashyap: I'm changing the patch title to "Track libvirt host/domain capabilities for multiple machine types"
12:27:46 openstackgerrit Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova master: Multiple API cleanup changes https://review.opendev.org/666889
12:30:39 aspiers kashyap, efried: I noticed that Element.getchildren() is deprecated since lxml 2.7 and our requirements has >= 3.4.1 - would it make sense to submit a patch getting rid of those?
12:34:58 sean-k-mooney aspiers: you are ment to just do list(element) now right to get the childeren
12:35:06 aspiers sean-k-mooney: yes I know
12:35:13 aspiers sean-k-mooney: my new code is already doing that
12:35:17 sean-k-mooney i guess iter(element) should work as well
12:35:30 aspiers just "for child in parent:" works fine
12:35:40 sean-k-mooney ah yes
12:35:51 sean-k-mooney personally i prefer using xpath expressions
12:35:59 aspiers that's a different use case
12:37:17 sean-k-mooney proably but it really depends on what your doing int he body of that for
12:37:48 kashyap aspiers: Sorry, wasn't paying close attention
12:38:25 kashyap aspiers: On that patch from Dirk, it's not only SLES, even CentOS is affected -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1825386
12:38:25 openstack Launchpad bug 1825386 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova is looking for OVMF file no longer provided by CentOS 7.6" [Undecided,New]
12:38:41 kashyap aspiers: (And yes, the new patch title is far more accurate; thank you)
12:39:15 aspiers let's see how Gerrit handles the rewording
12:39:23 kashyap aspiers: Now looking at your pastebin
12:39:23 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Track libvirt host/domain capabilities for multiple machine types https://review.opendev.org/673151
12:39:24 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Provide HW_CPU_X86_AMD_SEV trait when SEV is supported https://review.opendev.org/638680
12:39:24 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add extra spec parameter and image property for memory encryption https://review.opendev.org/664420
12:39:25 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Extract SEV-specific bits on host detection https://review.opendev.org/636334
12:39:25 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Add and to config.py https://review.opendev.org/636318
12:39:26 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Apply SEV-specific guest config when SEV is required https://review.opendev.org/644565
12:39:26 openstackgerrit Adam Spiers proposed openstack/nova master: Enable booting of libvirt guests with AMD SEV memory encryption https://review.opendev.org/666616
12:42:02 sean-k-mooney aspiers: i like to use xpath for thinks like parseing the support device model enum. "/enum[@name='modelType']/value/text()" is much cleaner then looping over the child of my child that is a enm with a name atribute and then extraging alls its childerns text values
12:42:47 aspiers sean-k-mooney: yes but it depends on the context. config.py already has a top-down tree-based approach to iterating so in that context xpath makes no sense
12:43:05 sean-k-mooney well im planning to use it there
12:43:26 sean-k-mooney and if we used xpath in config.py more liberally it would be much shorter then it currently is
12:43:38 aspiers maybe
12:43:52 aspiers sean-k-mooney: feel free to add me to the review
12:43:57 sean-k-mooney https://review.opendev.org/#/c/666915/6/nova/virt/libvirt/config.py@182
12:44:12 kashyap aspiers: On your pastebin (http://paste.openstack.org/show/755058/): you lack the 'efi' bit because, (a) old version; (b) your EDK2/OVMF package doesn't yet have these files:
12:44:16 kashyap /usr/share/qemu/firmware
12:44:18 kashyap /usr/share/qemu/firmware/40-edk2-ovmf-x64-sb-enrolled.json
12:44:21 kashyap /usr/share/qemu/firmware/50-edk2-ovmf-x64-sb.json
12:44:23 kashyap /usr/share/qemu/firmware/60-edk2-ovmf-x64.json
12:44:26 kashyap ---
12:45:29 aspiers kashyap: /usr/share/qemu/firmware doesn't exist at all
12:45:56 sean-k-mooney i dont see that on ubunut
12:46:13 kashyap aspiers: Right - it doesn't exist on those yet. Hence these RFEs I filed for Debian and Ubuntu:
12:46:25 kashyap aspiers: It is part of QEMU 4.1 (coming next month) - merged in Git.
12:46:29 kashyap The files.
12:46:54 aspiers ouch, 2.11.2 here
12:46:58 kashyap (But each distro should ship a variant of those files that matches with their EDK2/OVMF.)
12:47:02 sean-k-mooney i have it in a different location on debian
12:47:19 kashyap sean-k-mooney: The JSON files don't exist yet on Debian
12:47:20 sean-k-mooney /usr/share/OVMF/OVMF_CODE.fs
12:47:23 sean-k-mooney /usr/share/OVMF/OVMF_CODE.fd
12:47:36 aspiers sean-k-mooney: that's not the json files
12:47:42 aspiers that's the blobs
12:47:43 kashyap sean-k-mooney: We're talking about .json files
12:47:43 sean-k-mooney oh the json file is seperate form the firmware image
12:48:03 kashyap Here are the RFEs I filed for Debian/Ubuntu:
12:48:11 kashyap (1) Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=932269
12:48:11 openstack Debian bug 932269 in ovmf "Ship the firmware "descriptor files" as part of the 'ovmf' package" [Normal,Open]
12:48:12 sean-k-mooney no its fine
12:48:18 kashyap (2) Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/edk2/+bug/1836859
12:48:18 openstack Launchpad bug 1836859 in edk2 (Ubuntu) "RFE: Ship the firmware "descriptor files" as part of the 'ovmf' package" [Undecided,New]
12:49:10 kashyap coreycb: Hi, any update on the above from 'dannf'? --^
12:49:32 kashyap coreycb: Sorr for pestering; I'll be off from 06-Aug to 23-Aug, trying to get it into Ubuntu by then
12:49:53 kashyap coreycb: It's a simple change, just requires one to go through the motions and get a package build out.
12:49:57 sean-k-mooney they may still decide to package tehm in a different location but you know more about it then i
12:50:33 kashyap sean-k-mooney: They can package it in whatever location - it doesn't matter, so long as they're shipping the JSON file with their custom path.
12:50:37 sean-k-mooney i think its somewhat confusing that they are in the qemu directory and not in OVMF
12:51:09 kashyap sean-k-mooney: That is what the QEMU firmware specifcation looks for.
12:51:17 kashyap https://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob;f=docs/interop/firmware.json#l312
12:51:31 kashyap 312 # - /usr/share/qemu/firmware -- populated by distro-provided firmware
12:51:34 kashyap 313 # packages (XDG_DATA_DIRS covers
12:51:37 kashyap 314 # /usr/share by default),
12:51:44 sean-k-mooney i guess it depends on if its in the qemu package or ovmf package
12:51:53 sean-k-mooney its edk2
12:52:20 kashyap For distributions shipping EDK2/OVMF, they should ship these files as part of that package.
12:53:19 sean-k-mooney right so it seam weird that that package would add somthing to the qemu firmware folder unless that package has a hard depency on qemu e.g. it cant be instlled without it
12:54:06 aspiers kashyap: weirdly, changing the commit message only invalidated the V+1 of that commit, not all the others rebased above it
12:54:20 sean-k-mooney yep
12:54:40 sean-k-mooney if gerrit can tell that the rest of the content did not change it wont drop the +/- 1

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