| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2019-07-03 | |||
| 18:46:20 | dustinc | can active duty still buy beer/wine at 18 on base? | |
| 18:46:23 | dustinc | gets even more confusing | |
| 18:46:25 | efried | 21 for alcohol is country-wide at this point. Louisiana was (I think) the last one to capitulate in the late '90s (from 18) when the fed cut off their road funding. | |
| 18:47:13 | sean-k-mooney | you can drive from 16 and get a gun licence at 16 or 18 right and marry at like 16-18 depending on the state | |
| 18:47:17 | efried | sean-k-mooney: I grew up near London, where the official age was 18 but not enforced at all. I was pubbing from 14. | |
| 18:47:21 | sean-k-mooney | and vote at 18 too right | |
| 18:48:06 | dustinc | the problem with voting here is you can vote at 18 but nobody does until 60 sigh... | |
| 18:48:08 | efried | vote at 18, yes, that was a big deal ~20y ago. Driving depends on the state, but it's 16 in most places. You can get an exception for "hardship" or farming (which are the same thing to me :P ) | |
| 18:48:16 | efried | that's not a problem | |
| 18:48:34 | efried | the problem with voting is that you are allowed to do so despite being completely ignorant | |
| 18:48:49 | dustinc | that doesn't change with age | |
| 18:48:55 | efried | swhat I'm sayin. | |
| 18:49:01 | dustinc | gotcha :) | |
| 18:49:23 | dustinc | voting is really complicated in some states too | |
| 18:49:29 | sean-k-mooney | ya you can get a work vechles lices that allows you do drive a tracker or combin haveser at 16 in ireland but need to be 18 to get a car license which is ... odd | |
| 18:49:41 | dustinc | my state votes by mail, others you have to stand in line for hours | |
| 18:50:00 | dustinc | do you have graduated licensing for motorcycles? | |
| 18:50:06 | sean-k-mooney | yes | |
| 18:50:30 | dustinc | we get 18 year olds buying a 1000cc for their first bike here | |
| 18:50:31 | dustinc | so annoying | |
| 18:51:25 | sean-k-mooney | http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Third%20Directive/bikes_chart_3rd_directive_V2.pdf | |
| 18:51:30 | efried | In the UK didn't they pass a thing where you have to have a decal of some sort for the first year after you get your license, so other motorists are warned that you still suck? | |
| 18:51:52 | sean-k-mooney | http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Learner-Drivers/Motorcyclists/Licence-categories-explained/ | |
| 18:52:29 | sean-k-mooney | efried: thats in ireland | |
| 18:52:35 | sean-k-mooney | you have N placnete for novice | |
| 18:52:47 | sean-k-mooney | *plates | |
| 18:53:39 | sean-k-mooney | i like the metric system but i really dont understadn inutitivly how much 11KW is vs horsepower | |
| 18:54:41 | dustinc | about 14hp according to google..dunno how you can even get around with so little | |
| 18:55:01 | dustinc | a common starter bike here is 250cc twin and they make around 35hp I think | |
| 18:55:05 | dustinc | and are sooo slow | |
| 18:55:08 | sean-k-mooney | what does a 125cc engin normally put out | |
| 18:55:45 | dustinc | not sure, guessing 11kw/14hp is probably pretty typical | |
| 18:55:58 | dustinc | we just don't have many street-legal 125cc here | |
| 18:56:13 | sean-k-mooney | ya that is the smalest license you get when your 16 | |
| 18:56:24 | sean-k-mooney | so its mainly scotters and dirt bikes | |
| 18:57:05 | sean-k-mooney | that said i was not expecting thise to qualify https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/advice/new-riders-and-training/top-10-a1-licence-friendly-bikes-2018 | |
| 18:57:15 | dustinc | it should be that way here, maybe start at 250cc since 125cc is hard to find, but people starting out on 110hp 600cc sport bikes (or worse...180-200hp liter bikes) is common and causes lots of accidents..and then expensive insurance and stupid laws | |
| 18:59:00 | sean-k-mooney | i guess you really dont need the same level of raw horse power vs a car. anyway i better finish up my email and sign off for the evening o/ | |
| 19:00:09 | dustinc | you guys get some cool little bikes there... | |
| 19:00:49 | sean-k-mooney | unfortunetly i dont have a bike license so cant ride any of them | |
| 19:01:20 | sean-k-mooney | i have though about getting it but mainly since i never drive my car and have been thinink of gettin rid of it but still should have somthing | |
| 19:02:14 | qqmber | sean-k-mooney: I just ceated a new instance and in this one worked (attaching a new volume)... Crap... maybe the instance is screwed :( | |
| 19:03:13 | sean-k-mooney | qqmber: it might be related to your iscsi backend | |
| 19:03:37 | sean-k-mooney | do you have issue conencting to it form other vms on the same host | |
| 19:03:49 | qqmber | that's what I'll try now | |
| 19:04:09 | sean-k-mooney | you could also try moving the vm to anohter host and see if that fixes it | |
| 19:04:18 | sean-k-mooney | but it could be that its not propely exported | |
| 19:04:21 | mriedem | dansmith: efried: i was out getting my quarterly sheering, do i need to weigh in on this numa affinity spec thing? b/c i don't really want to. | |
| 19:04:38 | mriedem | *shearing | |
| 19:04:39 | mriedem | sorry | |
| 19:05:26 | efried | mriedem: Apparently we all have to take a stand one way or another, or dansmith won't be our friend anymore. | |
| 19:05:32 | dansmith | mriedem: if you want, but I think I nudged efried in enough of a direction that it won't matter | |
| 19:05:34 | efried | wait | |
| 19:06:09 | mriedem | i haven't reviewed the latest updates on sylvain's spec | |
| 19:06:21 | dansmith | efried: not all of us, just you (have to take a stand) | |
| 19:06:23 | mriedem | nor do i really have much skin in this game | |
| 19:08:56 | mriedem | does france vacation season end before or after FF.... | |
| 19:09:17 | dansmith | does it end...at all? | |
| 19:10:23 | mriedem | touche | |
| 19:11:56 | mriedem | fyi for anyone following along, there is 1 queens change to merge https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens+label:Code-Review=2 and then i'll be doing a release | |
| 19:12:42 | sean-k-mooney | i was expecting that to auto merge whne the parent did | |
| 19:12:43 | qqmber | sean-k-mooney: one (maybe) important point... the instance with the (apparent) problem was migrated from one host to another (I shutdown the instance first) | |
| 19:12:58 | mriedem | sean-k-mooney: it would have if not for gate failures | |
| 19:13:35 | sean-k-mooney | mriedem: ya i just clicked in an notice the job that failed faild before the test ran | |
| 19:13:44 | sean-k-mooney | qqmber: did you confimr the migration | |
| 19:14:19 | sean-k-mooney | if not the instace might still be pointing at the source node. | |
| 19:16:48 | qqmber | yes, I did | |
| 19:17:10 | qqmber | is there any way to confirm that? (I'm 99.9999999% sure I did) | |
| 19:17:16 | sean-k-mooney | ok i was just wondering if the instace.host could still be set to the old host | |
| 19:17:40 | sean-k-mooney | which would likely mess up attaching new volumes | |
| 19:18:26 | qqmber | this instance had 2 volumes before the migration... after the migration one volume "died" (maybe because of the current problem), and now I'm not able to attach new ones... | |
| 19:19:15 | sean-k-mooney | is the dead volume form the same cinder backend as the one that does not show up | |
| 19:21:11 | sean-k-mooney | dansmith: by the way for atroms revert resize change you want to avoid the api change by doing the db lookup as mriedem and i were discussing and then have the followup patch on master change to passing the migration object down and remvoe the db lookup right | |
| 19:21:29 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: I | |
| 19:21:33 | sean-k-mooney | cool | |
| 19:21:53 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: I'm fine with doing the one thing and backporting it, but mriedem is not, so then yes, those two steps | |
| 19:22:01 | sean-k-mooney | i kind of prefered that too but was not sure how you would feel about the extra db query | |
| 19:22:40 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: IMHO, backporting the interface change is not a problem, so we could avoid the lookup and the two-step dance | |
| 19:22:53 | dansmith | but mriedem wants the interface to be stable, which is also fine | |
| 19:23:04 | dansmith | what I'm not okay with is the duck typing on our internal interface | |
| 19:23:04 | mriedem | we'll have a two step either way (to remove the TypeError handling) | |
| 19:23:15 | sean-k-mooney | yep | |
| 19:23:17 | dansmith | mriedem: I'm not okay with the typeerror either.. like, at all. | |
| 19:23:44 | dansmith | mriedem: we don't need it though, because it's all an internal interface.. we could just pass the thing in and change all the drivers, and backport that | |
| 19:23:55 | sean-k-mooney | well the type error handeling is for oot drivers | |
| 19:24:07 | dansmith | sean-k-mooney: right, which I don't care about at all | |
| 19:24:09 | sean-k-mooney | which i know we technicaly dont support | |
| 19:24:29 | mriedem | i only really care here b/c of backports | |
| 19:24:36 | mriedem | if it weren't being backported i'd just say change the interface | |
| 19:24:51 | mriedem | i'm not losing sleep over this though | |
| 19:24:59 | sean-k-mooney | ok im just trying to make sure we know what to change while both of ye are on vacation for the next two days | |
| 19:25:00 | dansmith | right, but I don't get why the backport matters, since this is all inside nova-compute, except for the OOT drivers, which .. I don't care about | |
| 19:25:03 | dansmith | but whatever | |
| 19:25:07 | mriedem | oh i'm here friday | |
| 19:25:12 | dansmith | me too | |
| 19:25:18 | sean-k-mooney | oh ok | |
| 19:25:29 | mriedem | i am, however, gone the entire week of the 15th | |
| 19:25:31 | mriedem | with no laptop | |
| 19:25:45 | dansmith | so wait until the 15th and then we merge? :D | |
| 19:25:52 | mriedem | and the revert on the 16th? sure. | |