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#openstack-nova - 2019-03-21
16:08:48 gibi efried: so I would wait for that
16:10:20 mriedem the release patch can depends-on the known stuff you want to hold up for and then just adjust the hash when they land
16:11:34 efried don't see a lot of value in the depends-on if the content needs to be updated anyway. Just to stop them from automerging it?
16:11:44 mriedem yup
16:41:37 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Fix links to neutron QoS minimum bandwidth doc https://review.openstack.org/645084
17:01:00 mdbooth Could this be a source of random SSH failures in the gate: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1689933 ?
17:01:02 openstack bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1689933 in openstack-nova "[RFE] Add a simple way to enable random number generator on all flavor/image" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to nova-maint
17:04:46 kashyap bauzas: mdbooth: efried: When you get a minute, please put this one out of its misery: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641981/ (libvirt: Use 'writeback' QEMU cache mode when 'none' is not viable)
17:05:08 efried kashyap: did you want that in RC1?
17:05:09 bauzas I'm just wrapping my head with devstack atm
17:05:22 efried Cause that's all we're gonna merge today.
17:05:24 kashyap efried: Would certainly be useful to get some initial testing
17:05:37 mdbooth kashyap: That's a no ;)
17:05:40 efried mriedem: RC1 candidate?
17:05:41 kashyap The sooner the better, as we'd be doing a bit of a disservice to the users
17:05:51 kashyap mdbooth: Hehe
17:06:38 mdbooth I think it's a backport candidate, though. We'll almost certainly take it downstream. It's not a regression, though, and it won't cause dataloss or any kind of error. It's just unnecessarily slow.
17:06:49 mdbooth s/I *don't* think/
17:06:58 mdbooth Erm, I do think.
17:08:24 sean-k-mooney kashyap: that is not a regression so it normally would not qualify for an rc right?
17:08:28 kashyap mdbooth: Thanks for the review so far! Appreciate it
17:09:12 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Not a regression; but why inflict needless slowness? This patch can (positively) impact all new instances
17:09:23 sean-k-mooney kashyap: im also not sure its technically a bug. it sound more like a specless blueprint.
17:09:50 sean-k-mooney kashyap: well you can just set the config option too
17:11:05 sean-k-mooney anyway this just feels like a feature that is filed as a bug which can be worked around via a config already so im not sure if it qualifes for RC incution but i also dont think you will be breaking anything
17:11:09 kashyap This is fixing existing tech debt. The more it is delayed, the more I lose motivation to fix it.
17:11:41 sean-k-mooney sure but when i looked at this earilar i assume this was targeting train not stien
17:11:50 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Also, Huh? This is not a "specless blueprint". This is actually a misuse/bug.
17:12:07 sean-k-mooney everything working but being slow is not a bug
17:12:20 kashyap sean-k-mooney: True. But I won't cry into my pillow if it doesn't make it to Stein, though
17:12:50 kashyap Just that I'd "strongly suggest" to get this in -- also because the "other patch" (for `qemu-img convert` case) merged.
17:13:13 sean-k-mooney kashyap: didnt that merge before feature freeze
17:13:14 kashyap And it's not nice to have these splatter over two releases.
17:13:18 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Yep
17:13:38 kashyap Frankly, I was just so buried in actually digging the issue, that I lost track of all this time. Most deadlines are arbitrary in my mind.
17:14:20 kashyap (As in, wasn't paying attention whether it was merged before or after RC1)
17:14:38 mriedem efried: i do not think that writeback patch is an rc1 candidate no
17:14:40 mriedem it's extremely latent
17:14:50 mriedem damn it where is jaypipes
17:14:52 efried k, swhat I figured.
17:15:26 mriedem dansmith: edleafe: cdent: i've dumped comments on surya's 'locked_reason' spec - specific feedback on (1) the data model changes and (2) rest api payload format would be appreciated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638629/
17:15:37 sean-k-mooney kashyap: once rc1 is cut tonight it can be merged tommorow after the stable/stien branch is cut
17:15:50 kashyap mriedem: Yes, it is latent.
17:16:06 sean-k-mooney the real question is is it backportable
17:16:19 cdent mriedem: thanks queued
17:16:40 kashyap I definitely think it is backport-worthy. See mdbooth's comment earlier
17:17:19 sean-k-mooney kashyap: in which case it can be proposed for backport to stable/stien and the other stable branches
17:17:30 kashyap mriedem_grooming: I don't agree with your emphatic "no". But whatever. I have 1000 other things that need my attention
17:17:30 sean-k-mooney so its not really that much of an issue
17:17:52 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Yep, so it's fine, if it's merged tomm.
17:18:19 sean-k-mooney mdbooth: do you consider qemu vert type to be a bug
17:18:21 kashyap sean-k-mooney: But, I'd prefer it to be in Stein. I didn't "plan" this work.
17:18:45 sean-k-mooney mdbooth: you can say yes :)
17:18:48 mdbooth kashyap: I don't think it's worthy of Stein at this stage.
17:18:55 kashyap mdbooth: Okido...
17:18:56 mdbooth kashyap: Focus on the backport.
17:19:05 kashyap I don't know; I'll focus on dinner first
17:19:11 mdbooth kashyap: Good call :)
17:19:47 kashyap sean-k-mooney: mdbooth: But as noted, The two volume drivers patches should _also_ merge at the same time
17:19:54 kashyap For the "minimum possible doc" to make sense.
17:24:25 mriedem_grooming listen guys, i didn't say it wasn't a bug, i sait it wasn't a regression in stein, it's latent, therefore it doesn't need to be held up for rc1 which is already stressful
17:24:30 mriedem_grooming so we'll deal with backports
17:24:48 mriedem_grooming if people don't like my input on it then don't ask
17:25:45 kashyap mriedem_grooming: Hey, I do like your input very much :-)
17:26:14 efried I was content at :14:52
17:26:17 kashyap mriedem_grooming: But yep, please go ahead with RC1 stuff (after your grooming)
17:27:08 sean-k-mooney efried: what change ad 14:53
17:27:13 sean-k-mooney * at
17:27:52 kashyap sean-k-mooney: If I have to guess it's the "not an RC1 candidate" remark :-)
17:27:57 efried :14:52, as in 14 mins 52s after whatever hour you're in (Unless you're in one of those bizarre time zones that's off by a half hour)
17:28:08 efried when I said "k, swhat I figured".
17:28:36 sean-k-mooney oh ha i see
17:29:01 efried which was shorthand for, "I was pretty sure this wasn't a candidate for rc1, but I wasn't positive, so I asked mriedem. He voiced a similar opinion. So that is what we shall go with."
17:29:35 bauzas honestly, not a big deal (again)
17:29:59 bauzas we always cut RC1 after things we wanna wait
17:30:21 bauzas the question is : should the bug we discuss be in the waitlist ? obviously not in my mind, period
17:30:39 sean-k-mooney efried: by the way have you looked at the nova ptg etherpad to see what should be moved to placemetn or nova placement cross project stuff
17:30:57 efried sean-k-mooney: Yes, I did that yesterday, but it will need constant mriedem_groominging
17:31:30 efried could have been Tuesday
17:31:49 efried no, yesterday: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004030.html
17:32:07 sean-k-mooney efried: i originally adde the resource provider yaml but topic but is that something that anyone is going to pursue in train?
17:32:33 efried sean-k-mooney: IMO that's a straight-up Nova topic, as it doesn't ask for any changes to the placement API.
17:32:52 sean-k-mooney oh sorry yes it is
17:32:55 efried I haven't felt a whole lot of excitement behind that effort, so I haven't been pushing it.
17:33:03 efried but if you're excited, I'll get excited with you.
17:33:11 efried since I proposed the thing
17:33:13 sean-k-mooney i partly context switch and was wondering if there was still a desire to discuss it
17:34:10 sean-k-mooney well i think there is a pain point there but im not sure if that is the solution
17:34:40 efried Had this revelation recently when talking about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-inter-provider-affinity -- would rather do small, simple, easy-to-understand things that have limited scope and power than try to do a super generic one-size-fits-all thing.
17:34:50 efried and that yaml spec leans much more toward the latter.
17:35:43 sean-k-mooney ok. im going to grab lunch too.
17:37:06 bauzas oh man, I'm getting mad at devstack deployments
17:37:25 sean-k-mooney bauzas: something specificlly?
17:39:04 bauzas neutron fails to install
17:39:10 bauzas but meh, I'll fix it
17:39:17 sean-k-mooney ah ok
17:40:38 bauzas yeah, it's a reqs thing
17:41:43 bauzas let's go for a RECLONE=yes
17:45:01 NobodyCam fyi incase anyone ever runs in to this again: issue was bad rabbit ip in nova_api/cell_mappings.transport_url
17:52:18 dansmith efried: cdent: what's the status on this eventlet monkeypatch thing? I saw some discussion this morning, but when I looked the other day it had changed since my review for reasons I wasn't sure about

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