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#openstack-nova - 2019-03-07
17:17:21 jaypipes mriedem: I will
17:17:35 jaypipes mriedem: can one be too uncool for school?
17:17:43 jaypipes mriedem: cuz I would be that.
17:18:13 mriedem that question is too philosophical for me to think about right now
17:18:43 mriedem dansmith: i'm sure you'd like to propose a "nova at the edge?!" forum session
17:18:50 mriedem you could even dress up like the edge
17:18:53 dansmith mriedem: I'm sure you're wrong
17:19:21 mriedem what if, we do a reenactment of the movie 'the edge' from the 90s though?
17:19:28 mriedem i'll be alec baldwin
17:19:53 dansmith :|
17:20:04 mriedem we need an anthony hopkins and a bear
17:20:24 mriedem bauzas: ...
17:20:43 dansmith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn8-4tjPxD8
17:20:55 bauzas hum, I can wait for shaving
17:21:04 mriedem https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3s9vt2
17:21:12 dansmith keep thinking I need to be working that in .. the U2 edge thing is already played
17:21:34 mriedem if we're going to talk about stevie nicks i can't let the fajita roundup go unnoticed
17:26:42 aspiers kashyap (or anyone): need advice on how to reuse some code from libvirt.driver._get_machine_type() inside libvirt.host
17:27:13 kashyap aspiers: Afraid, I'm totally spent for the day :-( And about to go for some air and food
17:27:24 aspiers kashyap: OK maybe someone else can help
17:27:40 kashyap If it's on a particular review, think out loud. I'll see tomm.
17:27:52 aspiers no, it's on how to write my code
17:28:17 aspiers I want to reuse these two lines https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L4262
17:28:32 aspiers but from Host class, which doesn't have access to the driver AFAICS
17:28:48 aspiers maybe there's a utils class or something
17:28:57 aspiers oh look at that, there is :)
17:29:21 aspiers ah no, because it needs access to _machine_type_mappings() also
17:29:40 aspiers hrm, maybe that can also be moved to utils
17:29:42 aspiers I'll try that
17:36:57 openstackgerrit Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Allow utime call to fail on qcow2 image base file https://review.openstack.org/641315
17:41:37 sean-k-mooney mriedem: just reading you reminder tread. regarding melwitt's change to add the user_id to the instance mappings in the api db i assume we shoudl add a nova-status check for that right?
17:42:18 sean-k-mooney mriedem: we said we would add a blocker migration but this is the kindof thing nova-status should be checking before an op does an upgrade correct?
17:42:29 dansmith sean-k-mooney: for train you mean right?
17:42:33 sean-k-mooney ya
17:44:02 sean-k-mooney we wanted to make the colume non nullable after train so on an upgrade to U we should have a nova-status check to make sure you have run the data migration to populate the colume so that the schame migration can work
17:44:31 sean-k-mooney no one memtioned nova-status the other day so i just tought i would bring it up
17:45:00 dansmith I did in IRC actually, but .. we need to land that in train nova-status, not right now
17:45:26 sean-k-mooney oh ok i missed that then. cool
17:46:06 dansmith adding it in stein would tell them they need to do something they can't do until they deploy stein code
17:46:45 sean-k-mooney right because we are only adding the column in stien
17:49:10 jaypipes dansmith, mriedem: bottom 3 +W. still plowing through the nova-manage migration in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633351...
17:51:17 openstackgerrit Matthew Booth proposed openstack/nova master: Allow utime call to fail on qcow2 image base file https://review.openstack.org/641315
17:51:42 mriedem jaypipes: don't make me get you a mr plow jacket
17:51:46 mriedem so you can strut around
17:52:07 mriedem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhW3OyifFBE
17:54:24 dansmith mriedem: how would you communicate with the other members of the tribe if you didn't have the simpsons and every snippet documented on youtube?
17:54:34 mriedem grunts
17:54:43 mriedem flute sounds
17:55:05 jaypipes heh
17:55:44 mriedem jaypipes: so i think i'll abstain from proposing a unified limits session, it's out of my ability to lead that
17:57:28 jaypipes mriedem: I can participate in such a session.
17:58:04 mriedem i'm going to go participate in a bowl of chili
17:58:45 jaypipes :)
17:59:04 cdent a forum session with a chili bakeoff would be pretty cool
18:00:37 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Fix nits in remote console guide https://review.openstack.org/641098
18:00:38 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: docs: Rework all things metadata'y https://review.openstack.org/640730
18:00:38 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Rename 'configuration drive' to 'config drive' https://review.openstack.org/641723
18:03:59 jaypipes mriedem_afk, dansmith: please see my question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633351/. it's the only part of that migration I don't get...
18:06:06 dansmith jaypipes: replied
18:08:34 jaypipes dansmith: thx
18:33:39 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: FUP for test_reshape https://review.openstack.org/641482
18:33:57 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Update --max-rows parameter description for archive_deleted_rows https://review.openstack.org/606995
18:34:07 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: tests: Create PCI tests for NUMA'y tests https://review.openstack.org/640826
18:41:54 mnaser i'm dealing with a sorts of 'usability' issue. booting a cinder volume from a glance image (where the image is stored on local disk)
18:42:08 mnaser cinder eventually creates the image, but it takes around 15 minutes because it has to download+upload
18:42:35 mnaser nova times out waiting for the volume, even though it's in `downloading` state
18:42:39 smcginnis mnaser: Do you have image cache enabled?
18:42:50 smcginnis That will help after the first one at least.
18:43:01 mnaser smcginnis: interesting, i don't think image cache is enabled for this deployment, but yes, that's a good idea
18:43:19 smcginnis Creating the boot volume via Nova timing out is a known issue of sorts.
18:43:27 smcginnis You need to tweak the timeouts if you do it that way.
18:43:36 mnaser the type of user is one who refuses to create a volume and wait for it to then attach it is the one i'm dealing with :)
18:43:39 smcginnis Really recommended to create the volume first, then boot from it.
18:43:51 mnaser "it should just work <insert a ton of exclamation marks>"
18:44:16 mriedem mnaser: sure, just tell them to pre-cache their images :)
18:44:19 smcginnis I've actually been meaning to see how difficult it would be to just update horizon to look like it's the one path, but do the two separate steps under the covers to make it less likely to time out.
18:44:55 mnaser i'm just trying to see if we can have a better way in terms of usability, if cinder is reporting that its' still 'downloading' really
18:45:15 mnaser also, another fun thing is that it seems like it doesn't properly clean up as it tries to request a delete on a volume that's in downloading process
18:45:26 mriedem mnaser: https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.block_device_allocate_retries and https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#DEFAULT.block_device_allocate_retries_interval are the related nova-compute options
18:45:27 mnaser so seems like volumes end in error downloading state or something along those lines, but i haven't dug that far yet
18:45:56 mriedem it's this code https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L1308
18:46:06 smcginnis Hmm, error downloading sounds like a bigger issue to address first.
18:46:43 mnaser i just want to avoid changing the timeout to '15 minutes' because they will bring bigger images and then ask me to bump the timeout to '30 minutes' lols
18:46:51 mnaser smcginnis: yeah, let me see if i have tracebacks for that too
18:47:06 mriedem mnaser: this is the code that does the waiting and cleanup https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/block_device.py#L689
18:47:17 mriedem nova won't delete the volume if delete_on_termination is False
18:47:20 mriedem which it is by default i think
18:51:21 mnaser i guess the cleanest way is image cache *but* that does involve booting it once still
18:51:38 mnaser we didn't have this issue when using cinder backend for glance
18:51:57 mnaser but then we have the issue with glance buffering a whole image to disk and then pushing to array
18:52:25 smcginnis I think I've been told if you use ceph it helps a lot.
18:52:36 mnaser yes we're hoping to kill off their dell ps array
18:52:44 mnaser ceph is wonderful for all of this
18:52:55 smcginnis That might be good anyway. PS is no longer going to be supported.
18:53:11 mnaser good, then we can force them to get off
18:53:12 mnaser :-P
18:53:23 smcginnis ;)
18:58:40 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Move legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration in-tree https://review.openstack.org/640181
19:01:05 openstackgerrit Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: Preserve UEFI NVRAM variable store https://review.openstack.org/621646
19:07:26 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Clean up block_device_allocate_retries config option help https://review.openstack.org/641759

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