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#openstack-nova - 2019-03-04
15:34:11 stephenfin Nah, it's because it's needed for move operations
15:34:16 stephenfin See b4ce2d9f12ef6d50837e4133dff09fa43fd152d2
15:35:38 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: well the move operations e.g. cold migration need it for schudleing
15:37:05 sean-k-mooney mriedem: the alias does not contain the pci addresses. so it works independenly form the compute nodes for most usecause
15:38:09 sean-k-mooney it does mean if you put the pci vendor and product id in the alias that it has to match across the compute nodes but you are better off haveing 1 alias per device model anyway
15:41:45 mriedem sure
15:42:13 mriedem artom: btw, how is your downstream numa live migration whitebox tempest testing stuff passing if the intel people testing it are finding issues? just different issues from what the CI would hit?
15:42:45 sean-k-mooney mriedem: i responded on the mailing list
15:43:03 sean-k-mooney mriedem: they were using virsh edit to view the xml instead of virsh dumpxml
15:43:15 sean-k-mooney virsh dumpxml shows the current state of the vm
15:43:32 sean-k-mooney virsh edit shows the xml that the vm would have it you were to reboot it
15:44:00 sean-k-mooney it looks like when we update the xml as part of a migration virsh edit still shows the original xml
15:44:33 sean-k-mooney so that is the reason for the delta. the whitebox test use virsh dumpxml which i belive is correct
15:52:53 mriedem (8:39:26 AM) stephenfin: mriedem: Just tell me what I need to blindly +W
15:53:05 mriedem stephenfin: don't go blind on this, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623543/
15:53:18 mriedem since gibi abandoned https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625311/
15:53:32 stephenfin mriedem: Yup, already on it (gibi pinged us)
15:53:57 mriedem ok that's a big change so i'll hold off until someone more familiar with the pf/vf/pci stuff has gone through it
15:58:11 gibi mriedem: sorry about the size of that patch, it organicly grow to that
15:59:25 sean-k-mooney gibi: is your current plan to support but the manual tag in the whitelist + the auto disovery of the tag?
16:00:37 sean-k-mooney gibi: im ok with that by the way as a fallback mechanisum ignoring the similar nameing of pf_interface_name and devname
16:01:23 sean-k-mooney oh you have abandoned it never mind im looking at the wrong patch
16:01:27 bauzas gibi: I just started reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623543/ and I have a concern
16:01:51 gibi sean-k-mooney: I dropped the whitelist support
16:01:54 bauzas gibi: do we agreed on having a pci claim providing a reschedule ?
16:02:03 bauzas (for this I mean)
16:02:27 gibi bauzas: fixing the PCI filter would be a really big work as the filters doesn't know about allocation candidates
16:02:38 sean-k-mooney gibi: cool that was my perference but i could live with it if it was just a fallback for if we could not auto detect it.
16:02:51 bauzas gibi: sure, I'm just saying we haven't this in the spec, right?
16:02:57 gibi sean-k-mooney: libvirt autodetection was pretty small change so I went for it
16:03:20 gibi bauzas: yeah, devil is in the details so this edge case surfaced during implementation
16:03:27 gibi bauzas: I'm planning to retrofit the spec
16:03:48 bauzas gibi: okay, my point is that I want to make sure people are okay with this
16:04:03 gibi bauzas: sure, I also want to make sure, hence the big commit message
16:04:15 bauzas (fwiw, I have the same problem with any NUMA affinity for vGPUs ;) )
16:04:26 bauzas changing the filter is difficult
16:04:58 gibi if we end up fearing the re-schedule then I can drop this patch and document the limitation
16:05:33 bauzas gibi: I'm not really bad with this
16:05:54 bauzas also, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636360/19 is the API microversion that really creates the new feature, right?
16:06:18 gibi bauzas: yes, everything is rejected until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636360/19
16:06:37 gibi bauzas: everything involving ports with resource request
16:06:45 bauzas yeah, I'm seeing with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636360/19/nova/api/openstack/common.py
16:06:45 gibi bauzas: except server delete
16:07:06 gibi bauzas: yepp, that is the key
16:15:17 stephenfin gibi: Left a series of nits plus a suggestion to s/pf_interface_name/parent_ifname/, but otherwise +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623543/ Thanks for tackling that
16:16:21 bauzas gibi: just to make it clear, if you solve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623543/39//COMMIT_MSG by the compute claim, that means that you check the compute version for all the move ops ?
16:17:05 gibi stephenfin: I'm OK to rename the key to parent_ifname
16:17:20 stephenfin and I'm OK to re-review if you do :)
16:17:25 bauzas don't see any of this in https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/stein/approved/bandwidth-resource-provider.html#upgrade-impact
16:17:50 gibi bauzas: I think you found a problem
16:18:18 gibi bauzas: we did not planned to check the compute version
16:19:08 gibi bauzas: right now if you boot a server and the scheduler select a host that is still Rocky then the pci claim fails as the new pf_interface_name key will be missing from the pci spec
16:19:25 gibi bauzas: so no resource inconsistency but more re-schedule will happen
16:20:41 bauzas gibi: wait
16:20:42 gibi bauzas: ohh no. the InstancePCIRequest will not request the new key either if the request lands on an old compute
16:20:58 bauzas gibi: yeah that
16:21:08 bauzas it's old code so it doesn't know about anything
16:21:31 gibi bauzas: yeah, the InstancePCIRequest change is also in the compute/manager
16:22:40 gibi BUT if we have an old compute then the old compute will not have bandwidth inventory
16:22:49 gibi so placement will not select it
16:23:07 gibi (assuming that nova-compute is updated along with the neutron agents)
16:23:10 bauzas gibi: that was the original reason why we didn't need a check
16:23:22 bauzas because placement checks it for free
16:23:23 bauzas but
16:23:49 bauzas for a classic move operation, you can end up with the late-check not being read
16:24:03 mriedem there is no move support for this in stein
16:24:30 gibi bauzas: ^^
16:24:35 mriedem gibi: and we enforce that in the api right?
16:24:39 mriedem yeah i remember
16:24:47 gibi mriedem: yes, the moves are rejected
16:24:56 gibi mriedem: even after the 2.72
16:24:56 bauzas mriedem: what happens with my instance ? am I able to migrate it with dropping the bandwidth check, or do i get some ERROR ?
16:25:07 mriedem you get a 400 or 409
16:25:08 bauzas ah, that's an API enforcement
16:25:09 mriedem i can't remember which
16:25:10 bauzas good then
16:25:46 mriedem https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/evacuate.py#L123 400
16:25:54 bauzas so that works, at least if neutron agent is upgraded with compute service, which is usually what's done
16:26:13 mriedem if the neutron agent is upgraded before nova-compute it could be reporting inventory before the compute is ready to handle those types of allocations...
16:26:18 mriedem but i'm not sure how realistic that is
16:26:41 gibi bauzas: even if they ugrade the neutron agent they can skip the bw config in the agent until nova-compute is upgraded
16:26:45 bauzas worth a note at least
16:26:54 gibi bauzas: the whole neutron bw inventory is config based
16:26:57 bauzas yeah
16:27:12 mriedem how much of the compute-level stuff is virt-driver specific?
16:27:16 bauzas so, ops can upgrade whenever they want, and once they're done, they set configs
16:27:17 mriedem just the multi-VF on same PF thing?
16:27:37 bauzas gibi: planned to write some ops docs btw. ?
16:27:51 bauzas that would also help me reviewing all of this :)
16:27:55 gibi bauzas: yeah, rubasov already started it for neutron and I will chime in
16:28:19 bauzas I'd be more than happy to review it
16:28:23 gibi mriedem: good question, I think the SRIOV + bandwidth support is now become virt driver specify
16:28:41 gibi bauzas: here is a neutron WIP doc patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/640390/
16:28:45 dansmith mriedem: hmm, aren't the two things in runway slot 2 and 3 part of the same effort?
16:28:59 mriedem dansmith: yeah, spot instances
16:29:02 dansmith yeah
16:29:04 mriedem separate blueprints for whatever reason
16:29:10 dansmith hrm
16:29:37 dansmith they're part of the same stack in gerrit, so.. kinda seems like that's one thing:)
16:29:42 gibi mriedem: if there is a InstancePCIRequest then it will have the new tag included even if the compute host only has a single PF

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