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#openstack-nova - 2019-02-25
14:38:11 zhubx007 mdbooth: as you say, it is ok when I set force_raw_images to True. Whether it is great to add checking the image format when call import_image under rbd imagebackend because only raw is good for this backend.
14:39:23 openstackgerrit Yongli He proposed openstack/nova master: Add server sub-resource topology API https://review.openstack.org/621476
14:40:05 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: make functional tests run on python 3 https://review.openstack.org/638053
14:40:06 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/os-vif master: modify functional base.py to allow using vscode https://review.openstack.org/638058
15:04:20 mriedem jaypipes: efried: i'm +2 on the current bottom 4 bw provider series changes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616240/ - nits to be sure but can be addressed in another follow up i think
15:04:41 mriedem i think the api change is the goal for stein https://review.openstack.org/#/c/636360/ so i'm trying to do a review push to get there this week
15:10:11 openstackgerrit Kashyap Chamarthy proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Rework 'EBUSY' (SIGKILL) error handling code path https://review.openstack.org/639091
15:10:53 kashyap mriedem: Blast from the past ^
15:11:13 efried mriedem: ack. Trying to figure out if it's mathematically possible to have more fups than patches.
15:11:29 mriedem efried: i made a similar joke on one of these
15:11:32 mriedem 1:1 fups
15:11:52 efried I hate being unoriginal. Now I will have to kill you.
15:12:09 efried Never mind, I'll need you to review my code. You live.
15:16:15 gibi efried, mriedem: I working on a fup that will contain fixes up til https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573317
15:16:26 kashyap What is a "fup"?
15:16:33 gibi kashyap: Follow up
15:16:39 kashyap My tool doesn't know it:
15:16:39 kashyap $> wtf is fup
15:16:40 kashyap wtf: I don't know what `fup' means!
15:16:45 kashyap gibi: Ah, thanks.
15:16:50 efried or what you were thinking, depending.
15:16:54 sean-k-mooney fix up patch or follow up patch
15:17:02 sean-k-mooney kashyap: ^
15:17:21 kashyap Please, "follow-up" as keyword.
15:17:37 sean-k-mooney no one uses that^
15:17:39 kashyap As I accidentally looked at the definition of "fup" on Urban Dictionary ... and "you won't believe what happens next!"
15:17:49 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Yeah, yeah. I know it's just IRC slang
15:18:45 efried Back in the day it was used by IBM support teams for APARs, in caps (FUP), simply shorthand for "follow up", as in "FUP with customer..."
15:18:45 efried and led to all kinds of raunchy (well, for IBM, anyway) jokes.
15:18:51 sean-k-mooney yep and recent slang at that. but i dont think we need to add follow-up: someithg to the commits
15:19:17 kashyap I see
15:19:39 efried Agree with that; though I have to say I'm not a fan of commit titles like "Follow on for <change-id>" with nothing in the body of the message.
15:20:10 efried When I do these, I tend to do "FUP for <brief description>" and then enumerate links to specific comments I'm responding to in the body.
15:20:16 efried and of course, everybody should do it my way.
15:20:57 sean-k-mooney haha well that at least makes sense
15:21:23 efried example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600474/
15:22:44 sean-k-mooney i think this is fine too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639099/ but a midpoint betwen the too is praobly good too.
15:23:14 kashyap efried: Yeah, I fully agree on "bad commit messages". Reminds me of this excellent guide written by DanPB many moons ago: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages
15:23:23 kashyap People should take that guide to the heart.
15:23:24 sean-k-mooney the disadvantage of both are you have to click the link/change id to see the context
15:24:02 sean-k-mooney kashyap: there are some thing in the bad examples that i dont fully agree with in that guide but i do reference it frequently
15:24:03 kashyap (And of course this excellent post from a certain Chris Beans: https://chris.beams.io/posts/git-commit/)
15:24:41 kashyap sean-k-mooney: The fundamental rule I follow in commit messages is: provide all the context right there in the commit message.
15:24:45 efried kashyap: I frequently reference the GitCommitMessages wiki page. (That link showed up purple for me :)
15:24:47 kashyap If you have to link to something, summarize it
15:25:20 kashyap (E.g. faciliate the poor suckers working without internet connection and are doing `git log` sleuthing)
15:25:34 kashyap efried: Cool :-)
15:25:53 kashyap sean-k-mooney: That point is actually point 2 in that Wiki page: "Do not assume the reviewer has access to external web services/site."
15:25:56 sean-k-mooney kashyap: one thing that i always tought that wiki discuoraged was bullet point list in the commit which i think are actully good style
15:26:14 sean-k-mooney yep
15:26:37 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Bullet points are fine -- as long as they are complete, and _coherent_ sentences
15:26:44 kashyap And not no-assed "thoughts"
15:26:48 sean-k-mooney so i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638058/2//COMMIT_MSG is a good commit message but that general styple would be discuraged
15:27:29 kashyap sean-k-mooney: Was actually reading that change
15:28:14 efried My understanding is that what's discouraged is changing more than one thing in a commit. A bullet list sometimes (but definitely not always) indicates that that's happening. But a bullet list isn't inherently bad.
15:28:41 efried be like saying, "never use the word 'also' in a commit message"
15:29:00 sean-k-mooney efried: ya that is true the distinciton is not made clear in the example in the wiki
15:29:31 kashyap sean-k-mooney: I have a small 'issue' with that vscode commit message
15:30:08 kashyap It doesn't follow the general "scheme" most of the human brains are used to: describe the problem, then tell the solution.
15:30:10 sean-k-mooney kashyap: there are 2 thing i need to fix
15:30:26 sean-k-mooney kashyap: so leave a comment and ill adress them shortly
15:30:26 kashyap Lastly, this is my Git commit message 'scheme':
15:30:26 kashyap [One line summary -- in imperative mood]
15:30:26 kashyap Describe the problem.
15:30:28 kashyap Describe your solution. And more importantly, tell *why*.
15:31:18 kashyap (You do that, though. But all of them in bullets :-)) Anyway, don't want to belabor on this.
15:32:08 stephenfin bauzas: Fancy doing me the honour? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445436/
15:32:59 bauzas stephenfin: with pleasure
15:33:43 bauzas stephenfin: oh wait, sec. the option is *already* deprecated ?
15:33:52 bauzas stephenfin: if so, it should have a reno note
15:33:56 bauzas if not, we need it
15:34:03 stephenfin that's a good point
15:34:09 stephenfin lemme fix that
15:35:36 bauzas stephenfin: will update the commit msg to stop the zuul check then
15:35:52 stephenfin If you remove the -W, it'll take it out of the gate
15:35:56 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Improve documentation for defer_iptables_apply https://review.openstack.org/445436
15:37:35 bauzas stephenfin: nope, unless zuul changed
15:37:58 bauzas for pushing the change out of the gate pipeline, we need to have a new revision
15:38:05 bauzas anyway, it's done
15:46:03 openstackgerrit Lajos Katona proposed openstack/python-novaclient master: Add support for microversion v2.70 https://review.openstack.org/637234
15:54:43 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecated 'defer_iptables_apply' https://review.openstack.org/445436
15:54:46 stephenfin bauzas, jaypipes: That should be better ^
15:55:27 stephenfin sean-k-mooney tells me what I'm doing is likely correct and I'm going to b̶l̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ trust him :)
15:56:18 jaypipes heh
15:59:23 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add unit tests for missing VirtualInterface in 2.70 os-interface https://review.openstack.org/639141
16:00:02 mriedem can i get another core on the 'expose virtual device tags' api change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631948/ alex +2ed it and it's pretty straight-forward. last day in the runway queue for this one.
16:00:14 stephenfin sean-k-mooney: My docs are "nice to have". I feel cheated, Good Sir ;)
16:00:20 stephenfin mriedem: I can take a gawk
16:00:25 mriedem thanks
16:01:37 yonglihe this one in same situation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621474/22
16:01:38 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: docs chagnes are non fuctional and can can be merged after the client lib freeze. since we generally just use the latest version of the docs people should still see them but they also can be backported to stable branches more easily so nice to have
16:02:08 sean-k-mooney stephenfin: hehe but i also think they will be straigt forward to merge so im going to go review them shortly anyway
16:02:16 mriedem yonglihe: i'll try to get to that one
16:03:23 yonglihe thanks.
16:04:26 yonglihe i suppose all stuff piled up at end of dev cycle, sorry for that.
16:12:37 mriedem np, it always happens
16:20:50 bauzas stephenfin: +Waboom
16:25:33 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Refactor "networks" processing in ServersController.create https://review.openstack.org/633594
16:27:31 stephenfin bauzas: Tank u
16:28:23 stephenfin .--._____,

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