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#openstack-nova - 2018-12-03
16:17:53 cdent so it would definitely need to be a prioer to this one, if you're feeling inclined
16:18:24 mriedem but the placement fixture (rest api) continues to work, right? but it gets the fixture from placement.
16:19:27 cdent yes, but that fixture is only available to functional tests, not unit
16:19:43 cdent (because only the functional tox jobs import placement master)
16:20:01 cdent this seemed a good safeguard to insure that unit tests are unit tests
16:20:11 cdent and is part of why this test ran into issues
16:21:03 mriedem ok in that case i guess (a) is best for now, unless we just drop the check altogether as i think we sort of flirted with last week
16:21:59 cdent roger that, I'll carry on, thanks
16:26:41 mriedem ok, i'm going to dump some words into the ML
16:42:04 edleafe Must have been a big dump
16:43:38 dansmith I call BS on the 5lb number
16:43:38 dansmith https://www.healthline.com/health/do-you-lose-weight-when-you-poop
16:45:21 artom I think BS (from bulls!) is definitely more than 5 lbs.
16:45:48 dansmith probably, but mriedem is decidedly smaller than a bull
16:46:47 bauzas are we discussing how our body filters and weights stuff ?
16:47:30 mriedem i'm going to take the high road here
16:47:35 mriedem just this once
16:48:59 artom My son blocked the toilet with his poop. Twice. He's not even 3 yet.
17:00:43 mriedem i've seen that from a kid once, at my gf's house in high school, her nephew birthed a loaf of bread i swear, it was amazing
17:00:57 cdent so much for the high road
17:01:04 mriedem you can thank artom
17:01:07 mriedem he brings out the worst in me
17:01:20 cdent yeah, he just gently laid that in there, and the house came down
17:04:32 dansmith artom: that's quite an, um, honor
17:08:06 artom I did to this channel what my son did to the toilet
17:08:20 artom I am... this channel's poop? Dammit >_<
17:08:39 dansmith we can't even see the high road from here
17:10:30 artom Yeah, but pot's legal in Canada now, so if I ever need to get to the high road, I'm all set
17:10:53 artom Which is why I can afford these shenanigans
17:22:03 openstackgerrit Jack Ding proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Preserve UEFI NVRAM variable store https://review.openstack.org/621646
17:22:16 dansmith artom: when are you thinking you'll have numa-aware-live-migration patches up/refreshed for looking?
17:32:30 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Fix sloppy initialization of the new disk ops semaphore. https://review.openstack.org/621346
17:32:47 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: I think we need mdulko's response on your ML thread.
17:34:44 artom dansmith, it's in my tasks for this downstream sprint
17:34:53 artom So I'm not sure how much I'll get done, but at least 1
17:36:06 artom dansmith, I'm not really expecting it to land by our downstream deadlines. But if I can get it in upstream in Stein, and make it tech preview for OSP15, I'd consider that a win
17:36:54 dansmith artom: okay, in the upstream channel I'm really only asking about things that matter to upstream :)
17:37:09 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: is there a responce to the os-vif one or is it another one?
17:37:14 dansmith just wondering if there will be meat to review this year or not, as it doesn't seem like there's much up right now
17:37:29 artom dansmith, I know, but was giving you context
17:37:55 dansmith alright
17:38:03 artom dansmith, maybe not a full 15 oz steak, but like, a chicken cutlet?
17:39:42 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: no, I mean you are asking for kuryr-kubernetes folks to respond to your questions in your ML thread and I'm saying I'll wait to hear from them until I weigh in.
17:39:57 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: ah ok
17:40:54 sean-k-mooney ya ill proably jump into there irc tommorw and flag it to them
17:54:08 mriedem so we're not trying hard to get numa-aware live migration done in stein upstream, got it
17:58:12 efried jaypipes: I redid the three patches starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620711/ per your comments. Gate failures are spurious, rechecking. tssurya confirmed they've been running with this code in their env and it's performing as expected.
17:58:19 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add functional regression test for bug 1806064 https://review.openstack.org/621664
17:58:19 openstack bug 1806064 in OpenStack Compute (nova) rocky "Volume remains in attaching/reserved status, if the instance is deleted after TooManyInstances exception in nova-conductor" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1806064
17:58:19 sean-k-mooney mriedem: it will likely be hard to get it runway ready and reviewd before jan 10, it likely can be dont before upstream feature freeze but it likely will be non trival to review
17:58:20 mriedem s10: melwitt: ^
17:58:45 cfriesen artom: we'll happily try to break any patches you come up with. :)
17:58:54 mriedem sean-k-mooney: feature freeze is not jan 10
17:59:29 mriedem FF is march 7
18:00:29 sean-k-mooney oh i taught it was mid febuary but i guess im mixing that up with non-client libs
18:01:09 tssurya efried: we will try to put up a blog post soon with the plots and perf-improvement
18:01:35 efried tssurya: That would be awesome, my boss was just asking me if such a thing was available.
18:01:41 mriedem tssurya: are there plans to test that out with the ironic computes?
18:01:45 mriedem so those can be upgraded?
18:02:08 mriedem you had to downgrade ironic computes to queens right?
18:02:14 tssurya mriedem: yea we are working on the ironic driver and for sure will have it upgraded asap
18:02:27 tssurya mriedem: yea the prod is still in queens for ironic compute
18:02:59 mriedem efried: do i smell pbc results?
18:03:06 mriedem er,
18:03:06 artom cfriesen, please do
18:03:08 mriedem checkpoint results
18:03:16 tssurya efried: will let you know as soon as we post one :) we have a huge reduction in requests per min from 120K to 10K
18:03:26 efried mriedem: Yeah, we call it checkpoint these days.
18:03:33 artom mriedem, I *do* bring out the worst in you ;)
18:07:02 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Use external placement in functional tests https://review.openstack.org/617941
18:07:02 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Delete the placement code https://review.openstack.org/618215
18:40:57 jaypipes efried: tssurya also confirmed they're not using it for Ironic. :)
18:41:37 jaypipes efried: or are you just referring to *some* of those patches and not the one that could be trouble for Ironic installs?
18:42:21 efried jaypipes: I fixed the one we were concerned about for ironic as well. But yeah, it would be nice if we could get results from CERN playing with it live.
19:12:16 dansmith mriedem: questions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393930/4
19:14:19 dansmith well, a question and a suggestive comment I guess
19:20:42 jaypipes jangutter: I support sean-k-mooney's suggestions about renaming VIFBase to VIF.
19:21:03 jaypipes jangutter: in the context of our planned changes to the 2.0 os-vif modeling.
19:22:36 sean-k-mooney jaypipes: at the end of the day it will have very little differnece from a code point of view but as a new person looking at it nameing is important and "base" implys meaning that we dont enforce which might confuse people
19:22:52 jaypipes ++
19:23:25 sean-k-mooney it was never something that annoyed me enough to "fix" but if we are cleaning up things we might as well clean that up too
19:23:38 jaypipes right, my thoughts exactly.
19:25:06 sean-k-mooney that is a change that will break kuryr but again they should not have been inheriting form VIFBase anyway. we can use debtcollector to not break them untill i port over there vifs.
19:25:32 sean-k-mooney i wont get to it for a few weeks but i should get to it i january
19:28:32 mriedem dansmith: replied
19:29:33 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: well, again, kuryr should be pinning to a *specific* os-vif library release, so we should be safe to make these changes, along as they don't up their pinned release. same for nova, frankly.
19:32:39 sean-k-mooney ture but we have a kuryr ci job that will bitch since it runs against os-vif master
19:33:04 sean-k-mooney same as or nova job that test stuff before we merge it
19:33:39 jaypipes sean-k-mooney: that's fine (and works as expected, yeah?)
19:35:03 sean-k-mooney they are there to catch non backwards compatible changes so yes it works as expected but i just ment unless we make the change in a backward compatible way the zuul job will fail
19:36:41 dansmith mriedem: yeah I forgot about the distinction of the before-virt and after-virt nature of the two places we stash that stuff
19:36:48 sean-k-mooney e.g. if we renamed VIFBase to vif without the compaiblity code or removing the use of VIFbase in kuryer the kuryr-kubernetes-tempest-daemon-octavia would fail and stop use merging it in os-vif
19:37:30 dansmith mriedem: note that pulling it from an api node via instance_extra is the same number of hits to the db as just doing an query for all the virtual_interfaces for the instance presumptively, since the api is hitting the db directly
19:42:11 openstackgerrit David Hill proposed openstack/nova master: Add secret=true to fixed_key configuration parameter https://review.openstack.org/621684
19:47:28 mriedem since john hopkins isn't around anymore,
19:47:38 mriedem i wonder who would care enough to unwind all of this deprecated code we have to remove it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/621684/1/nova/conf/key_manager.py
19:48:01 mriedem now that barbican is a required service or whatever the TC calls it
19:48:16 mriedem cdent: what is the latest opinion on barbican being required and co-gating?
19:48:24 mriedem base devstack still doesn't install barbican as far as i know
19:48:55 mriedem although not sure we'd need barbican anyway since i think in the gate we'd just use a fake key manager from castellan

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