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#openstack-nova - 2018-11-28
22:11:27 jaypipes efried: working on em....
22:11:39 efried thx
22:14:39 mriedem i have -1ed
22:15:04 mriedem pull that get_node_uuid removal out
22:20:48 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Turn off rp association refresh in nova-next https://review.openstack.org/616033
22:21:27 mriedem zzzeek: could use your input on this postgresql issue if you have a sec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619061/1
22:21:37 mriedem i threw in a thing that works, but i'm not sure it's the right way
22:21:49 efried mriedem: so do it, just do it separately?
22:21:58 mriedem efried: yes, outside of that series
22:22:02 efried ack
22:22:26 mriedem you could throw it in topic branch remove-migration-allocation-compat to line it all up nicely
22:22:31 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:remove-migration-allocation-compat+(status:open+OR+status:merged)
22:23:32 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Use a static resource tracker in the compute manager https://review.openstack.org/620711
22:27:53 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Remove get_node_uuid https://review.openstack.org/620715
22:28:03 efried mriedem: there ya go. Don't say I never did anything for ya.
22:29:15 efried speaking of which, what's the interest rate on shiny nickels?
22:29:21 mriedem it's low
22:29:32 mriedem it's always in my backpack though
22:29:37 mriedem you just need to remind me in person sometime
22:29:47 mriedem or give me your address and i'll ship it down
22:29:56 mriedem maybe in a xmas card?!
22:30:35 efried That would be awesome. What's a stamp these days, 40-odd cents? And you're not supposed to mail cash. Oh, and f xmas.
22:30:52 efried I'll put it on the etherpad for Denver
22:31:28 mriedem good idea
22:31:47 mriedem i'll write you a check for $.05
22:32:21 efried IT HAS TO BE SHINY
22:32:26 efried put glitter or something
22:33:06 mriedem we do have glitter
22:33:11 mriedem pens, glue, you name it
22:33:20 mriedem i will richard shermans this check up for you
22:33:31 mriedem ha, wrong guy
22:33:53 mriedem simmons
22:33:55 mriedem simmons
22:34:07 mriedem jaypipes: you may enjoy that slip ^
22:34:12 mriedem FOOTBAW
22:35:03 jaypipes haha
22:59:23 mriedem mordred: we should only need the endpoint type (volumev3) and interface (public) to look up a service catalog entry right? we don't need the service name for that,
22:59:35 mordred that is correct
22:59:38 mriedem unless you have multiple endpoints pointed at the same type and interface but with different names or something?
22:59:47 mriedem trying to sort out what i can do for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1803627
22:59:47 openstack Launchpad bug 1803627 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova requires you to name your volumev3 service cinderv3" [Undecided,New]
23:00:15 jaypipes efried: I'm quite concerned about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615677/
23:00:17 mordred the only time service name is ever useful for anything is if a cloud has gotten itself into a bad place and has more than one endpoint with the same service type like rackspace public cloud did during their transition from legacy to openstack
23:00:40 mordred mriedem: looking
23:01:27 mordred mriedem: oh - I can help work on that patch tomorrow (it's too late today)
23:01:43 mriedem np thanks
23:01:46 efried jaypipes: Looking
23:01:48 mriedem i'm going to post something quick
23:02:20 efried mriedem, mordred: We ought to be able to fix that by exploiting some of the fancy schmancy discovery code in ksa, nah?
23:02:27 mordred I mean - efried will probably beat me to it - but getting rid of that catalog_info parameter at least is a step in teh right direction
23:02:31 mordred efried: yup!
23:02:41 sorrison mriedem: re cinder catalog in nova.conf yes the only way we can get it to work is by setting endpoint_template
23:02:54 efried You ought to be able to a) name your service any of the list of valid things, and b) search for the endpoint using any of that same list of valid things.
23:03:18 mordred yup. and you should absolutely be able to omit service_name which should default to None
23:03:29 jaypipes efried: unless I'm totally bonkers... but AFAIK, when Ironic is in the mix, that ProviderTree can contain thousands of root providers.
23:03:50 efried and yeah, long-standing TODO to get rid of all that bizarro client construction gorp
23:04:04 mordred and you should not only be able to omit service-type- you should really always omit service-type because using different service types is CRAZY - but you should be able to configure it anyway
23:04:24 mordred efried: I started looking at all that before the summit, then had thanksgiving
23:04:39 mordred I'd love to make a patch for y'all with a strawman of ripping a ton of gorp out
23:05:12 efried I'll be happy to review same, but I'm not likely to have time to code it up myself, alas.
23:05:27 efried I'm up to here
23:06:06 mordred cool. well - you did the last one - so it's my turn this time I think
23:06:20 mriedem efried: remember you had https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508345/
23:06:24 mriedem but very out of date by now
23:06:42 efried oo, indeed
23:06:50 mordred mriedem: yeah - I'll likely start by seeing if I can update that :)
23:08:11 efried jaypipes: Hum, I see your point. I did have it rigged at some point to just invalidate the tree of the failing provider. That turned out to be nontrivial and hacky, which is why I went the "invalidate everything" route. But yeah, I may have to restore that logic :(
23:16:04 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make [cinder]/catalog_info no longer require a service_name https://review.openstack.org/620738
23:16:05 mriedem sorrison: see how ^ floats your boat
23:17:27 sorrison mriedm: looks very buoyant, thanks!
23:20:19 sorrison Does anyone about any big openstack installs that connect to rabbitMQ with SSL, we've been having a lot of fun with https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1800957/ so far it seems use of SSL for rabbit is very low
23:20:19 openstack Launchpad bug 1800957 in oslo.messaging "Upgrading to pike version causes rabbit timeouts with ssl" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Ken Giusti (kgiusti)
23:28:32 mriedem sorrison: i seem to remember klindgren saying something similar a long time ago
23:28:44 mriedem so maybe SpamapS has an idea?
23:33:46 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Make [cinder]/catalog_info no longer require a service_name https://review.openstack.org/620738
23:37:12 mriedem cfriesen: jackding: fyi hpet related https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1805087
23:37:12 openstack Launchpad bug 1805087 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt+KVM: High CPU usage on Windows 10 (1803) guests" [Undecided,New]
23:38:31 mriedem turns out it's not just windriver OS images that need hpet
23:42:23 SpamapS sorrison: mriedem yes GoDaddy does use TLS for RabbitMQ. I don't work there anymore though.
23:42:55 SpamapS With cells v1, and cells of up to 1000 hv's.
23:43:02 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Note the aggregate allocation ratio restriction in scheduler docs https://review.openstack.org/620713
23:43:39 sorrison SpamapS: thanks. I'll send klindgren an email and get some more info off him
23:43:53 SpamapS For cells v2 the TLS should still be in use, but the cells v2 deployment wasn't quite scaled out when I was there.
23:44:19 SpamapS sorrison: out of curiosity, what issue are you seeing?
23:45:36 sorrison SpamapS: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1800957/ basically timeouts waiting for replies
23:45:36 openstack Launchpad bug 1800957 in oslo.messaging "Upgrading to pike version causes rabbit timeouts with ssl" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Ken Giusti (kgiusti)
23:45:40 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Provide a useful error message when trying to update non-compute services https://review.openstack.org/620667
23:46:49 sorrison SpamapS: been having a lot of fun as we didn't see this in testing and I'm still unsure why it happens, but I at least have found a reliable set of versions that work (basically the ocata versions)
23:47:44 SpamapS sorrison: Yeah the big deploy at GoDaddy was still running Liberty when I left about 6 weeks ago.
23:48:03 SpamapS the smaller deployment was Pike with cells v2.
23:48:27 SpamapS RabbitMQ is basically the most hated thing on the OpenStack team at GoDaddy, so, I'm not sure anybody will give you a nuanced answer. ;)
23:49:27 sorrison yeah I am aware of klindgren hate for rabbit, it's been stable for us over the last couple years up until pike upgrade
23:50:18 sorrison we (nectar) have cellsv1, 13 cells ~1000 hypervisors
#openstack-nova - 2018-11-29
00:01:35 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Default zero disk flavor to RULE_ADMIN_API in Stein https://review.openstack.org/603910
00:05:06 SpamapS IIRC, we had some improvement with newer RabbitMQ versions.
00:06:04 sorrison SpamapS: yeah some of our cells have found upgraded rabbit helps. We tried to upgrade the rabbit that neutron uses and it fell over so we down graded back
00:36:58 openstackgerrit Artom Lifshitz proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Re-propose numa-aware-live-migration spec https://review.openstack.org/599587
04:32:01 openstackgerrit Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Test websocketproxy with TLS in the nova-next job https://review.openstack.org/620776
04:44:05 openstackgerrit Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Move the nova-next job in-tree and update it https://review.openstack.org/620777
04:47:09 openstackgerrit Ghanshyam Mann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Test websocketproxy with TLS in the nova-next job https://review.openstack.org/620776

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