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#openstack-nova - 2018-11-01
11:15:20 johnthetubaguy stephenfin: yeah, it makes sense not to disrupt the chain.
11:50:16 openstackgerrit huanhongda proposed openstack/nova master: AZ operations: check host has no instances https://review.openstack.org/611833
12:19:11 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: WIP support attach/detach root volume 2 https://review.openstack.org/614750
12:20:20 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: re: the unified limits thing... I should have some PoC code to show you by end of week. It will give us something more concrete to discuss. It doesn't impact the REST API in nova at all.
12:21:24 johnthetubaguy jaypipes: OK, cool. Which bit are you looking at, using placement or the oslo.limits piece, or both?
12:22:18 johnthetubaguy jaypipes: was hoping to start work on a PoC soon, how I have finished the previous project that has been distracting me full time!
12:22:19 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: both.
12:22:56 johnthetubaguy at the PTG we seemed to land on doing the placement thing second, but I would certainly like to see the two together
12:23:10 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: not actually using oslo.limits, but with a bunch of "TODO(jaypipes): This should be ported to oslo.limits" notes. :) Along with a health dose of "NOTE(jaypipes): Under no circumstances should this infect oslo.limits"
12:23:26 johnthetubaguy ah, OK, got you
12:23:38 johnthetubaguy sounds good
12:23:49 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: yeah, I'm tackling the limit-getting stuff first, placement queries second.
12:24:28 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: obviously, the limit-*setting* stuff along with quota classes are the things marked "under no circumstances should this infect oslo.limits" :)
12:25:37 johnthetubaguy jaypipes: I was thinking along the lines of a parallel quota system, so we just ditch all the old stuff, its too infected with junk like user limits
12:26:17 johnthetubaguy well, its clearly not quite that simple, but anyways, looking forward to seeing the PoC
12:27:03 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: yeah, I haven't touched any of the "develop a system to migrate nova to use unified limits" stuff. that part of your spec would still very much be needed.
12:27:44 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: that said, I've added the infrastructure to be able to configure CONF.quota.driver to something like "unified" and have that switch the underlying mechanisms for limits retrieval.
12:28:00 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: so hopefully that data migration stuff can build on top of my work.
12:28:36 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: hopefully it should all make sense when I push the code today or tomorrow.
12:28:50 jaypipes (I'm OOO this afternoon)
12:29:42 johnthetubaguy jaypipes: ah, I don't have code for it yet, only a plan. Yeah, I think I get what you mean, but will look out for the patches
12:30:31 jaypipes johnthetubaguy: cool, thanks. I'll add you to the reviews.
12:51:42 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/614757
13:38:38 sean-k-mooney bauzas: mriedem we have a regression in the os-vif 1.12.0 release which is fixed in one of my patches already so we are going to blacklist 1.12.0 in the global requirements. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614764/1
13:39:36 sean-k-mooney im going to work on geting 2 new os-vif gate jobs to test ovs with iptables and linux brige next sprint to catch these kind of thing going forward
13:40:01 sean-k-mooney ill likely start on that next week however.
13:40:13 sean-k-mooney bauzas: as the nova release liasion could you comment on
13:40:21 sean-k-mooney https://review.openstack.org/#/c/614764/1
13:43:09 mnaser ok please forgive me if this sound silly but
13:43:21 mnaser microversion 1.4 > microversion 1.25, right?
13:45:33 sean-k-mooney no
13:45:44 sean-k-mooney its not a desimal point
13:45:55 sean-k-mooney it semantic versioning
13:46:50 mnaser ok
13:46:54 mnaser explains things
13:46:59 mnaser thanks sean-k-mooney
13:50:33 johnthetubaguy mnaser: its more like version 4.0 vs version 25.0 actually, as any micro-version can drop functionality
13:51:17 mnaser Okay, so trying to figure out why this upgrade somehow is causing nova to request a micro version 1.25 but the service is not providing that
13:51:23 mnaser Could be a super screwed up deployment too.
13:51:39 johnthetubaguy oh right, request the version from cinder or ironic?
13:52:21 johnthetubaguy we usually have a minimum version we need, which implies a minimum version of all the dependent services
13:53:28 johnthetubaguy mnaser: who is requesting 1.25 from whom?
13:55:54 mnaser johnthetubaguy: so it looks like os_region_name is not a valid option inside the placement section
13:56:22 mnaser So this multiregion deployed was probably hitting the wrong region. os_region_name was silently dropped?
13:56:38 mnaser So it was hitting an older region
13:56:44 johnthetubaguy good question, that sounds bad
13:57:37 mnaser It was removed after one cycle..
13:57:39 sean-k-mooney mnaser: the simplest thing to do it pretend ther is no .
13:58:02 mnaser https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/3db815957324f4bd6912238a960a90624d97c518
13:58:12 mriedem nova meeting in 2 minutes
13:58:15 mnaser A bit quick to remove it after just a cycle?
14:01:37 johnthetubaguy mnaser: that has always been the norm for config, we just don't usually remember to do it
14:04:48 mnaser johnthetubaguy: ah okay
14:06:06 johnthetubaguy mnaser: now the whole skip version upgrades thing clearly makes that less of a good policy... not sure if we have an answer for that one yet.
14:07:45 mnaser johnthetubaguy: yeah, i dont do that (nor do i support that idea).. so i should look at logs :p
14:09:47 johnthetubaguy mnaser: heh :)
14:15:51 mriedem oslo.config has a new thing for FFU with config stuff
14:19:44 johnthetubaguy mriedem: ah, cool
14:20:07 sean-k-mooney on the meeting ended quicking then i taught it would
14:21:20 sean-k-mooney i was going to ask peole to asses https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-neutron-sriov-livemigration and the related spec if they can to indicate if this can proceed for this cycle
14:21:46 sean-k-mooney i have spec update to make but they will be done later today.
14:23:39 mriedem johnthetubaguy: mnaser: this thing https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/oslo-specs/specs/rocky/handle-config-changes.html
14:23:48 mriedem i think that is still a WIP
14:24:28 mriedem jackding: if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609180/ is ready for review please put it in the runways queue https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein
14:42:27 mriedem hmm, did something regress with performance? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1800755
14:42:27 openstack Launchpad bug 1800755 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The instance_faults table is too large, leading to slow query speed of command: nova list --all-tenants" [Undecided,New]
14:42:36 mriedem that was fixed with https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1800755
14:42:38 mriedem oops
14:42:41 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409943/
14:43:30 mriedem is there any reason we don't purge old faults?
14:43:32 mriedem we only show the latest
14:43:50 mriedem and we don't provide any API or nova-manage CLI to show *all* faults for a given instance
14:44:26 jackding mriedem: sure, will do
14:45:02 sean-k-mooney mriedem: would that mess with audit logs?
14:45:40 mriedem you mean that config/api that no one uses?
14:45:43 sean-k-mooney mriedem: a nova-manage command could make sense or an admin only api
14:45:44 mriedem https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=list-server-usage-audits-detail#server-usage-audit-log-os-instance-usage-audit-log
14:46:31 sean-k-mooney mriedem: no i was thinking that for some deployment there may be requiremetn to record falts for audit/sla reasons
14:46:52 sean-k-mooney i was not thinking of any feature in partaclar
14:47:43 sean-k-mooney im just not sure if auto cleanup of old faluts would be somehting we would want in all cases
14:47:59 mriedem i'm not suggest an auto cleanup,
14:48:06 mriedem but a nova-manage db purge_faults
14:48:35 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Make _instances_cores_ram_count() be smart about cells https://review.openstack.org/569055
14:48:36 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: API microversion bump for handling-down-cell https://review.openstack.org/591657
14:48:36 openstackgerrit Surya Seetharaman proposed openstack/nova master: [WIP] Add os_compute_api:servers:create:cell_down policy https://review.openstack.org/614783
14:48:44 sean-k-mooney ya that i think makes total sense. the same way keystone allows you to purge the expired uuid tokens from its db
14:50:08 sean-k-mooney mriedem: where you thinking it would drop the fault older then X from the db or move them to an archive table?
14:51:57 mriedem i'm not really putting much thought into this
14:54:09 sean-k-mooney its one of those things that if you brought it up at the ptg i woudl be like "sure go for it" but it also does not should like a supper high prioity either so ya in any case i cant really think of a reason not to allow it off the top of my head
14:58:43 mriedem tssurya: in case you haven't started yet, i was thinking about how to do 2.68 down-cell functional api samples testing, which will require some kind of fixture to simulate a down cell,
14:58:48 mriedem and i think i have an idea of how to write that
15:00:16 tssurya mriedem: I saw your todos but I haven't started, feel free to start if you have the time your tests are surely going to be more thorough than mine.
15:00:24 tssurya bug thanks
15:00:27 tssurya big*
15:00:58 mriedem ok i think i'll just hack on a DownCellFixture in a separate patch below the API microversion one at the end, and then it could be used in the functional api samples tests,
15:01:04 mriedem the nice thing with fixtures is they are also context managers,
15:01:19 mriedem so you could create a server while the cell is 'up' and then do something like:
15:01:26 mriedem with down_cell_fixture:
15:01:40 mriedem get('/servers')
15:01:50 mriedem and you should get the minimal construct back

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