| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2018-09-05 | |||
| 21:28:49 | cdent | so it's not going to lead to that level of disaster, at least not as quickly | |
| 21:28:59 | dansmith | if the expectation or requirement is that the guest agent is running in all these instances and can ensure that it's trim'ing then you won't converge on full in the same way | |
| 21:29:23 | cdent | the split brain nature of the vc situation, sets up a lot of weird | |
| 21:29:25 | dansmith | based on what logic? | |
| 21:29:36 | cdent | vmware magic? | |
| 21:29:49 | cdent | it's what that stuff does. who knows how it works. | |
| 21:30:07 | dansmith | well, unless you can explain some magic, I don't believe :) | |
| 21:30:16 | cdent | let me see if I can find something | |
| 21:30:49 | mriedem | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-bt81UBDLI ? | |
| 21:34:08 | cdent | hrmm, too many layers of indirection | |
| 21:34:50 | cdent | so: in the general case a fix for this kind of thing is: train people to not use big disk using flavors when they don't need that. use a volume. | |
| 21:35:40 | dansmith | I'm not saying you shouldn't gamble, | |
| 21:35:52 | dansmith | I'm just saying if you do, be sure to let me know so I can move my instances elsewhere :) | |
| 21:36:37 | dansmith | I think most probably do because they're economizing, and they take that risk, mitigated by willingness to throw disks at a growing problem | |
| 21:36:51 | dansmith | if you're going for risk-and-reward, you gamble | |
| 21:37:06 | dansmith | if you're going for "make sure the nukes don't EIO at a bad time" then maybe you don' | |
| 21:37:07 | dansmith | t | |
| 21:38:06 | cdent | aye aye | |
| 21:38:48 | cdent | still querying around for an answer on the "is there magic here" and so far the answer is "it's complicated" | |
| 21:38:57 | cdent | and that, kids, is why grampy chris hates everything | |
| 21:40:15 | openstackgerrit | Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove redundant image GET call in _do_rebuild_instance https://review.openstack.org/600260 | |
| 21:40:19 | mriedem | cdent: i imagine the VC resource tracker is infinitely worse than nova's | |
| 21:40:24 | mriedem | which gives me some comfort | |
| 21:40:38 | mriedem | by worse, i mean complicated | |
| 21:41:08 | cdent | thankfully I get to stay far away from that stuff | |
| 22:13:05 | mriedem | fun, just saw a gate failure where rebuild creates the libvirt guest then while polling the domain to see if it's running, libvirt says it's not found | |
| 22:13:08 | mriedem | and we blow up | |
| 22:24:40 | openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Add exact match aggregate image properties matcher/filter https://review.openstack.org/599870 | |
| 22:25:32 | openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/nova master: Add exact match aggregate image properties matcher/filter https://review.openstack.org/593167 | |
| 22:31:15 | openstackgerrit | Jonte Watford proposed openstack/nova master: Modified version of 0027-Numa-object-string-representations.patch with some updates from the current numa files for nova: numa.py instance_numa_topology.py https://review.openstack.org/600269 | |
| 23:31:02 | Sundar | melwitt: Please ping me when you can | |
| #openstack-nova - 2018-09-06 | |||
| 00:42:36 | openstackgerrit | fupingxie proposed openstack/nova master: Add an example to add more pci devices in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/592243 | |
| 00:49:52 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Move str to six.string_types https://review.openstack.org/599493 | |
| 00:49:59 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix a failure to format config sample https://review.openstack.org/597986 | |
| 01:02:19 | naichuans | mriedem: Got it, Matt. I can't got PTG this time, maybe bauzas: and efried: could take care about it with you? | |
| 01:22:23 | melwitt | Sundar: I got your email, I'll add info to our etherpad about cyborg/nova on monday from 2-3pm | |
| 01:23:46 | openstackgerrit | fupingxie proposed openstack/nova master: Delete allocations for instances that have been moved to another node https://review.openstack.org/582899 | |
| 01:33:02 | Sundar | melwitt: Thank you | |
| 01:35:27 | melwitt | thanks | |
| 03:33:28 | openstackgerrit | Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Resource retrieving: add changes-before filter https://review.openstack.org/591976 | |
| 04:56:44 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova stable/rocky: Don't use '_TransactionContextManager._async' https://review.openstack.org/597421 | |
| 05:47:04 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Doc: PowerVM does support shelve https://review.openstack.org/593052 | |
| 06:10:24 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: Fix a failure to format config sample https://review.openstack.org/600336 | |
| 08:01:03 | bauzas | naichuans: hi | |
| 08:01:24 | bauzas | naichuans: sure, I'll make sure I get you concerns | |
| 08:01:29 | bauzas | your* | |
| 08:10:23 | openstackgerrit | Brin Zhang proposed openstack/nova master: Resource retrieving: add changes-before filter https://review.openstack.org/599276 | |
| 08:29:04 | openstackgerrit | Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Remove noisy DEBUG log https://review.openstack.org/600372 | |
| 10:28:01 | shyamb | Hi | |
| 10:28:26 | shyamb | On compute node, I see ownership of "/var/lib/nova/instances/snapshots" as root:root | |
| 10:28:26 | shyamb | all other directories in "/var/lib/nova" has nova:nova ownership | |
| 10:28:26 | shyamb | Is it expected or some issue? | |
| 11:02:55 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Fix nits: Compute: Handle reshaped provider trees https://review.openstack.org/598387 | |
| 11:17:46 | openstackgerrit | Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: tests: autospecs all the mock.patch usages https://review.openstack.org/470775 | |
| 12:15:13 | openstackgerrit | Vladyslav Drok proposed openstack/nova master: Fix resource tracker updates during instance evacuation https://review.openstack.org/600425 | |
| 13:23:29 | mriedem | naichuans: looks like the xen driver has some unit tests that actually execute openssl? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1790850 | |
| 13:23:29 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1790850 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Xenapi test failure when building the Debian 18.0.0 package in Sid" [Undecided,New] | |
| 13:27:36 | naichuans | mriedem: I don't familiar with this part of the code. But you are right, look we are using openSLL in xenapi. Is that a version conflict? | |
| 13:27:57 | mriedem | yes looks like it's generating an error on debian sid | |
| 13:28:41 | bauzas | I remember some old story about that | |
| 13:29:19 | naichuans | Is it urgent? Or I will look into it tomorrow. bauzs: anything could share with us? | |
| 13:29:28 | mriedem | naichuans: no not urgent | |
| 13:29:40 | naichuans | Thanks, Matt | |
| 13:30:22 | bauzas | naichuans: trying to remember the situation we had | |
| 13:30:40 | openstackgerrit | Tetsuro Nakamura proposed openstack/nova stable/rocky: placement: use simple code paths when possible https://review.openstack.org/600447 | |
| 13:31:12 | naichuans | :) bauzas: | |
| 13:32:41 | mriedem | if anyone has a py37 system, we have a few unit test bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1790847 https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1790849 | |
| 13:32:41 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1790847 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failing tests when building Rocky Debian package in Python 3.7" [Medium,Confirmed] | |
| 13:32:42 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1790849 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Failng hacking tests when building Rocky Debian package under Python 3.7" [Medium,Confirmed] | |
| 13:33:23 | bauzas | naichuans: mriedem: yup, remember this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1771506 | |
| 13:33:23 | openstack | Launchpad bug 1771506 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Unit test failure with OpenSSL 1.1.1" [Low,Confirmed] | |
| 13:33:51 | bauzas | we're like super dependent on openssl because of xen | |
| 13:33:59 | bauzas | something we should probably mock out | |
| 13:35:10 | mriedem | ah i'll mark the dupe | |
| 13:35:49 | naichuans | Yes, it should be same. Thanks, bauzas | |
| 13:36:17 | naichuans | I will look into it tomorrow | |
| 13:41:47 | openstackgerrit | Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Add an example to add more pci devices in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/592243 | |
| 13:42:31 | efried | mriedem: I would feel more comfortable approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592243/ if I had your eyes on it. | |
| 13:42:42 | efried | stephenfin: wanna have a look at that one last time -^ | |
| 13:42:50 | efried | (hopefully last :) | |
| 13:47:27 | mriedem | efried: pci anything in nova is my biggest weakness | |
| 13:47:50 | mriedem | i added moshe and sahid | |
| 13:48:14 | efried | mriedem: I already shepherded this patch to not touch the pci code. It was originally going to change the logic so you *could* specify [{...}, ...] | |
| 13:48:22 | efried | mriedem: But okay, thanks. | |
| 13:50:12 | melwitt | nova meeting in 10 min | |
| 13:50:18 | mriedem | this reminds me to look at that persons other patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582899/ | |
| 13:50:25 | mriedem | with 0 explanation in the commit mesage | |
| 13:50:28 | mriedem | *message | |
| 13:55:22 | mriedem | big ol 01 | |
| 13:55:23 | mriedem | -1 | |
| 13:55:50 | mriedem | dansmith: heh i was just going to point you at ^ | |
| 13:56:01 | mriedem | and now see, "We should get Matt's read on this as well. However, I'm skeptical of how/why this would be happening and thus think we should require a healthy bug report showing the root cause. " | |
| 13:56:08 | mriedem | i said basically the same thing | |
| 13:56:30 | dansmith | is there more info now? | |
| 13:56:41 | mriedem | not in the commit message | |
| 13:57:05 | mriedem | the bug report says there are mq issues | |
| 13:57:08 | mriedem | that's about it | |
| 13:57:22 | dansmith | right, well, that's not enough, IMHO | |
| 13:57:36 | mriedem | yeah i can't tell if this is talking about resize or build reschedules or what | |
| 13:58:45 | mriedem | "Exception during message handling: MessageDeliveryFailure: Unable to connect to AMQP server on 10.127.3.64:5672 after None tries: 'NoneType' object has no attribute '__getitem__'" | |