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#openstack-nova - 2018-09-05
12:49:58 stephenfin jangutter: It's alllll good
12:50:01 sean-k-mooney efried: ya there was a spec for this in the past. i had assumed i would need wone but i just had not gotten around to it
12:51:24 sean-k-mooney jangutter: how closely have you been following the cyborg proposals? will you be at the ptg?
12:51:47 jangutter what the heck, how did you guys start discussing the stuff I want to talk about after about 2 weeks of absence right as I log on?
12:52:00 jangutter sean-k-mooney: yep I'll be at PTG for the week.
12:52:46 kashyap stephenfin: Most excellent; thanks!
12:52:49 jangutter sean-k-mooney: could I convince a couple of people to knock heads together so we can get this "offload abstraction layer" up to the standards of jaypipes?
12:53:27 jangutter sean-k-mooney: to be honest, I've had only the briefest glances re: cyborg. what's the latest?
12:54:05 sean-k-mooney jangutter: i can take a look if that will help.
12:54:34 sean-k-mooney jangutter: not much has changed but i have stared to look into it alot more closely in the last week or two
12:56:33 sean-k-mooney jangutter: i am hoping that we can make significat progress at the ptg. if we dont then i will have a very differnt counter propsal to solve the same usecase without cyborg
12:56:44 sean-k-mooney jangutter: that is generic device management
12:57:43 jangutter sean-k-mooney: Yep, that's good to hear. One of the "nice things" is that we can at least _test_ the interface on one reference install.
12:59:26 jangutter sean-k-mooney: it's also pretty close to the time when Neutron should start passing os-vif objects to Nova.
13:00:13 sean-k-mooney jangutter: have you been looking at my rfe backlog and or the items i added for the nova-neutron cross project session :)
13:00:44 jangutter sean-k-mooney: not yet! It's on my to-do list for today.
13:01:58 sean-k-mooney yes i would finally like to get to that point this cycle. i added it as a topic for the cross project session. i think the neutron folks would like to move in that direct question is finding time to do it but i may know some people that could help
13:18:34 mriedem prometheanfire: clean run of nova-status upgrade check in devstack with the 2 nova patches applied http://logs.openstack.org/47/599847/3/check/tempest-full/2e19da6/controller/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2018-09-05_06_31_52_989
13:24:34 mriedem dansmith: when you get a chance, probably need you to weigh in here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599744/
13:41:26 dansmith mriedem: okay, after coffee
13:45:37 tssurya mriedem, dansmith, melwitt: I'll by flying out today, should be in airport transit for the cells meeting if we are having one
13:46:25 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova-specs master: List resource providers having inventory https://review.openstack.org/600016
13:46:25 dansmith tssurya: ack, we should cancel.. I'm just getting back up to speed since last week anyway and we'll be together next week
13:47:23 tssurya dansmith:ack
14:04:28 mriedem alex_xu: how about i just pull the try/except change out of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599744/ and make it a follow up so we can discuss what to do about it separately?
14:12:08 openstackgerrit Eric Fried proposed openstack/nova master: Use uuidsentinel from oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/600070
14:13:15 efried cdent: ^
14:13:23 cdent roger
14:13:31 efried I guess I'll do the placement one... later
14:13:47 pooja-jadhav efried: Hello
14:14:03 efried cdent: or redo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599386/ actually
14:14:08 efried pooja-jadhav: Howdy.
14:14:21 alex_xu mriedem: sounds a good idea
14:14:32 pooja-jadhav efried: R u aware about block device mapping?
14:15:02 efried pooja-jadhav: It's a roiling, swirling vortex of mystery to me.
14:15:22 cdent efried: I suspect it is easier/clean to let 599386 merge and adapt it to uuidutils after
14:15:33 efried cdent: ack
14:15:54 mriedem alex_xu: ok i'll pull that out then
14:16:23 pooja-jadhav efried: can u locate me to the correct person who knows about it in detail??
14:16:37 mriedem pooja-jadhav: just ask the question and someone that maybe can help, can try to help
14:16:43 efried pooja-jadhav: I hate to throw mriedem under the bus for everything, but he's probabl...
14:16:49 efried yeah, that :)
14:16:54 pooja-jadhav ohk
14:19:03 pooja-jadhav mriedem, efried: we can boot volume backed instance by two ways. 1. using --boot-volume 2. mentioned in the ref[1]https://docs.openstack.org/newton/user-guide/cli-nova-launch-instance-from-volume.html
14:20:05 mriedem oh there are myriad ways to bfv
14:20:16 mriedem don't forget image-defined bdms
14:20:20 pooja-jadhav mriedem, efried: When i boot an instance using --boot-volume. it creates single entry in block_device_mapping table. while when i use using --block-device in that case it creates 2 entries(1 for image and 1 for volume)
14:20:49 mriedem when you say --boot-volume do you mean --block-device?
14:21:03 pooja-jadhav no
14:21:16 pooja-jadhav --boot-volume (we need to passed bootable volume there)
14:21:26 pooja-jadhav volume created by an image
14:21:36 cdent "oh there are myriad ways to bfv" is the opening like to the poem that will get me the nobel prize for lit
14:21:51 cdent but only after my editor corrects my typing
14:22:31 mriedem pooja-jadhav: so this, "cinder create --image-id $IMAGE_ID --display_name=bootable_volume $SIZE_IN_GB"
14:23:13 mriedem "When i boot an instance using --boot-volume. it creates single entry in block_device_mapping table. while when i use using --block-device in that case it creates 2 entries(1 for image and 1 for volume)"
14:23:27 mriedem in the first case, the bootable volume is the root disk of the vm, it's the boot_index=0 bdm
14:23:32 mriedem that's why there is 1 bdm
14:23:38 pooja-jadhav issue i observed is: when i checked the instance created by above ref doc and tried to verifies is it BFV then as block device mapping gives me two entries. this method(is_volume_backed_instance) returns false
14:24:01 pooja-jadhav mriedem: yes
14:24:01 mriedem in the 2nd case, there is an ephemeral root disk on the compute host, not a volume, and then a blank non-bootable volume is attached to the vm where boot_index=None
14:24:14 mriedem b/c it's not volume-backed
14:24:30 mriedem if you want a volume-backed server, the root volume is specified with boot_index=0
14:24:47 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/block-device-mapping.html might be helpful
14:25:18 mriedem re: boot_index "Setting a negative value or None indicates that the device should not be used for booting."
14:25:43 mriedem from the example,
14:25:44 mriedem "nova boot --flavor FLAVOR --block-device \ source=SOURCE,id=ID,dest=DEST,size=SIZE,shutdown=PRESERVE,bootindex=INDEX \ NAME"
14:25:49 mriedem bootindex=INDEX Orders the boot disks. Use 0 to boot from this volume.
14:26:07 mriedem "nova boot --flavor 2 \ --block-device source=volume,id=$VOLUME_ID,dest=volume,size=10,shutdown=preserve,bootindex=0 \ myInstanceFromVolume"
14:26:25 mriedem ^ means boot from bootable volume $VOLUME_ID
14:27:12 mriedem the size field should probably be omitted from that last example since i don't think it's used for a pre-existing volume
14:27:26 mriedem the --block-device size field is only used when nova creates the volume and boots from it
14:27:41 mriedem cdent: "call me mriedem"
14:28:42 mriedem pooja-jadhav: does that answer your questions?
14:29:19 pooja-jadhav mriedem: yes, I will try this thing immediately, and let u know.. if anything more needed. Thanks for ur time :)
14:29:34 mriedem yw
14:29:38 pooja-jadhav mriedem: and for quick responses :)
14:41:29 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Configure placement DB context manager for nova-manage/status https://review.openstack.org/599744
14:41:30 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Remove error-masking try/except from _run_migration https://review.openstack.org/600085
14:41:31 mriedem gibi_off: alex_xu: ^
14:46:03 prometheanfire mriedem: thanks
14:55:53 pvc hi anyone experience instance not getting an IP address? error on communication with the DHCP but when I create a new network it successfully get an IP address?
15:00:32 pvc lvdombrkr
15:00:36 pvc hi anyone experience instance not getting an IP address? error on communication with the DHCP but when I create a new network it successfully get an IP address?
15:03:47 mriedem looks like we need some stable/rocky reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky
15:03:56 mriedem melwitt: you can exercise your newfound stable core powers ^
15:04:31 melwitt roger copy
15:06:06 pvc mriedem
15:06:07 pvc can i ask
15:06:28 pvc can i push this to queens?
15:06:28 pvc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590188/
15:19:55 mriedem pvc: backports go in order, so that would first have to merge on master, then backported to rocky, then backported to queens
15:21:08 breton hi! Are VMs with memory encryption supported now in Nova? Amd's SEV for example
15:22:55 mriedem never heard of it
15:23:54 mriedem i bet windriver would be all over it though
15:23:59 mriedem if only cfriesen were around
15:26:12 mriedem mnaser: re your questions about placement extraction and data migration,
15:26:18 mriedem if placement were down but nova-api was up,
15:26:43 mriedem users could try to delete instances which should work in nova (i haven't tested this) but leave stale records in placement which would require a script to cleanup,
15:26:50 mriedem but new requests for scheduling would also fail with NoValidHost
15:27:02 mriedem is the latter something you're OK with?

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