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#openstack-nova - 2018-07-31
14:05:03 dansmith and I don't see evidence of that
14:05:16 mriedem gibi has some older changes starting here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524306/
14:05:28 mriedem oops that's melwitt's ^
14:05:36 mriedem https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542891/ is gibi's
14:06:02 cdent thanks mriedem
14:11:56 bauzas mriedem: I don't want to be pedantic about microversions, but look at https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/contributor/microversions.html#f1
14:12:17 bauzas mriedem: I was about +2ing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583566/ given we merged the master one
14:12:59 bauzas mriedem: but here, a HTTP500 will become a HTTP200 right?
14:13:16 bauzas if so, we should possible change the documentation ^
14:13:30 dansmith 500->200 is fine right?
14:13:33 mriedem it will change a 500 to a 204
14:13:34 dansmith that's a bug fix
14:13:41 mriedem @wsgi.response(204)
14:13:56 mriedem 500 is not normal and a client should not expect it
14:14:26 bauzas yup, it's fine
14:14:33 bauzas but I looked at the documentation above
14:14:40 bauzas and the note was saying "no"
14:14:54 bauzas anyway, +2ing it
14:16:12 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Improve NeutronFixture and remove unncessary stubbing https://review.openstack.org/587412
14:17:01 gibi mriedem: fixed some of your comments, responded on others in ^^
14:21:38 mriedem Kevin_Zheng: is this still an issue worth pursuing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1528743
14:21:38 openstack Launchpad bug 1528743 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "HostState in Scheduler can be incorrect" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:23:19 Kevin_Zheng hi, I have to check since it has been too long
14:28:38 mriedem Kevin_Zheng: our public cloud perf team might like to measure this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576099/
14:29:02 mriedem efried: if you agree with what i'm saying in ^ then i could just make the change
14:29:12 efried ...
14:32:13 efried mriedem: I'm not sure I'm going to be fully comfortable with anything along these lines until we've figured out how these code paths impact ironic.
14:32:24 efried mriedem: And I don't even know what that would look like.
14:32:41 Kevin_Zheng Ack
14:34:09 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: Remove unnecessary PlacementFixture setups https://review.openstack.org/587490
14:34:16 efried mriedem: Note that I tried something like what you're suggesting via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576591/ but couldn't get it to work.
14:40:14 tbachman sahid: I was wondering if you might be able to answer a SRIOV question (and/or sean-k-mooney — was referred to you to by mriedem)? Do you happen to know if there’s a way to influence nova’s SRIOV NIC selection on a given host, if a host has mulitiple SRIOV NICs of the same vendor/device ID(and yes, I realize that this is definitely a “pet” approach <sadface>)?
14:42:00 jangutter tbachman: it's possible to distinguish them via the physical network tag
14:42:41 tbachman jangutter: yeah — there’s one other “special” detail I left out (and by special, I mean not wonderful). In this case, the goal is to support the SRIOV NICs on the same neutron network
14:43:05 tbachman I’d looked into HPB, but SRIOV support for HPB seems to have some limitations.
14:43:12 tbachman (which is what led me down this path)
14:44:18 jangutter tbachman: that is... hairy. https://docs.openstack.org/neutron/latest/admin/config-sriov.html <--- I presume you've been over this a couple of times.
14:44:28 tbachman jangutter: ack
14:44:40 tbachman someone else wondered if I could do something with the vif drivers
14:44:52 tbachman but I think at that point, it may be too late
14:45:23 tbachman (and by ack, I meant to say akc on both the doc and the “hairy” bit ;-) )
14:45:24 jangutter tbachman: yeah, let me find the code that does the actual allocation.
14:45:42 efried In the glorious future, SRIOV VFs will be resources with traits and stuff. So you'd be able to pick 'em however you want.
14:45:53 tbachman efried: :)
14:47:40 cdent mriedem, dansmith: rgerganov found the root of the problem in the import ordering (the patch that changed things). I reckon he'll have a patch soonish
14:47:49 jangutter tbachman: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/neutronv2/api.py#L1888 <--- I _think_ this is the piece of code that actually generates the resource request.
14:48:25 tbachman jangutter: ack. mriedem had pointed me to that earlier
14:48:57 jangutter tbachman: so from that code, there is the physnet tag (physical_network)
14:49:01 sahid tbachman: hum like that i don't know, did you try to match by devname?
14:49:28 tbachman sahid: oh — wasn’t aware devname was available in the whitelist
14:49:35 tbachman I guess I should explain my current approah
14:49:54 tbachman in nova.conf, I use the whitelist to provide the physnet => NIC mappings
14:50:15 tbachman but the problem is that the neutron network has only one static segment in this case
14:50:23 tbachman so, although I could assign each NIC it’s own physnet
14:50:28 tbachman the network still only has one
14:52:19 sahid tbachman: when you whitlist NIC you can use devname, all the NIC can be associated with the same physnet
14:52:25 openstackgerrit sean mooney proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: fix disk_bus handling for root disk https://review.openstack.org/584999
14:52:49 sahid i'm wondering whether you can create a port in neutron and use port binding to match the devanme
14:52:51 tbachman sahid: sounds good — but when I create the instance, how do I associate that with the instance
14:53:00 tbachman sahid: that’s what I was looking into
14:53:24 jangutter sahid, tbachman: is the dev_name actually _part_ of that pci request generated?
14:53:48 tbachman jangutter: sahid: this is my understanding so far
14:53:53 mriedem sean-k-mooney: interesting bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1784579
14:53:53 openstack Launchpad bug 1784579 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "unable to live migrate instance after update to queens" [Undecided,New]
14:54:04 tbachman I create the neutron network, which has a physnet
14:54:16 tbachman I create a port in neutron, with the “direct” attribute
14:54:23 sean-k-mooney mriedem: taking a look now
14:54:40 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Remove superfluous network stubbing in func test https://review.openstack.org/587134
14:54:41 tbachman nova-api calls into neutron to discover the physnet for the port
14:54:54 tbachman for the network, I should say
14:55:11 tbachman it provides pci request objects to nova-compute
14:55:23 sahid jangutter: devname is considered as a tag
14:55:35 tbachman nova-compute uses its map and the request objects to determine which SRIOV NIC to select
14:55:49 sahid so basically we should try to match it with the request spec generated using port binding profile
14:55:57 tbachman sahid: exactly
14:56:18 sean-k-mooney mriedem: looks like neutron was not able to bind the vif on the destination so set the vif type to binding failed and we eventual get to the code to build the os-vif object and rais that exception
14:56:46 mriedem yes
14:56:59 mriedem and nova persists the "binding_failed" vif type in the info cache so we blow up on compute restart
14:57:11 tbachman sahid: I was able to create a “hack” in nova, where I put the “physical_network” property in the binding:profile member when I create the port in neutron
14:57:17 sean-k-mooney mriedem: still reading the bug content however. your multiple binding changes should help with this
14:57:17 jangutter tbachmanm sahid: With vnic_type=DIRECT, you the physical network from Neutron too. There are other places in the VIF Neutron stores things (like binding:profile), but... I'm not quite sure if Nova hooks 'em up in the PCI request.
14:57:45 tbachman and have nova-api use this if present, instead of the physnet it gets for the network
14:57:47 sean-k-mooney mriedem: oh i had not got that far.
14:58:12 tbachman that approach does have some issues though — like you have to be admin to be able to set that property
14:58:27 tbachman (and of course requires a change into neutron)
14:58:39 dansmith mriedem: yeah that binding_failed thing has been around for a while I think
14:58:43 dansmith I was just looking at that
14:58:50 tbachman perhaps the other approach is to address the HPB workflow
14:59:03 tbachman I guess I was just wondering if there were any other possible options
14:59:13 dansmith sahid: you might want to look at this bug. it's talking about GPUs, but just doing regular pci passthrough with them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1780441
14:59:13 openstack Launchpad bug 1780441 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Rebuild does not respect number of PCIe devices" [Undecided,New]
15:00:15 sahid dansmith: ack
15:00:35 _ix Good morning folks. I've got a hypervisor question related to nova, but it's in some older neutron confs for the nova user. Would you happen to have any insight as to which neutron service makes use of the nova group for vif binding and the like?
15:01:12 _ix I'm re-rolling some passwords, and I'm really just curious to know if I can safely restart some of these neutron processes without affecting the running machines and their network connectivity.
15:03:03 tbachman jangutter: sahid: thanks for your input. I’ll probably look into the HPB approach as well.
15:03:15 tbachman (i.e. see what it would take to make that work)
15:04:31 jangutter tbachman, sahid: I'd be very interested in finding out if it's actually possible to get that triggered using unmodified Nova, but I have this sneaky fear it isn't.
15:04:54 sahid jangutter: i think using devname and binding profile should work
15:05:08 jangutter tbachman, sahid: I think general PCI passthrough as dansmith mentioned might very well work, but then it's not controlled via Neutron.
15:05:15 tbachman jangutter: yeah, ufnortunately I haven’t found a way just yet. As you mentioned, I don’t believe nova consumes the binding:profile pieces

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