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#openstack-nova - 2018-07-27
15:24:15 mriedem fried_rice: heh i know
15:24:17 dansmith fried_rice: and yet, it's in documentation and people have tried it, hence the bug yeah?
15:24:24 sean-k-mooney mriedem: in that instance. the flavor has root_gb=0 the imange is like 20MB in glance and we boot it on the dest without claim space in placement. the vm can use as much space as disk topology in the image specifies
15:24:50 fried_rice dansmith: The bug was opened because bhagyashri was working on it and I said it should have a bug report.
15:25:07 mriedem shared storage providers is definitely a feature/spec
15:25:17 fried_rice ...which we don't claim works yet.
15:25:19 mriedem given the upgrade/CI/etc
15:25:24 mriedem i know, but
15:25:31 fried_rice we should document that we *don't* support it.
15:25:42 dansmith well, there's mention of that trait in our own docs, and given what it breaks it's not trivial, IMHO
15:25:43 fried_rice and then take some time to resolve these issues correctly.
15:25:44 mriedem that's what dansmith and melwitt were talking about last night
15:25:57 sean-k-mooney mriedem: anyway thats unrelated to dans question excpet for the fact we dont track the disk usage correctly in placemnet
15:26:21 melwitt yes, described here L8 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-release-candidate-todo
15:26:35 mriedem sean-k-mooney: yes i think that's correct and likely a bug; i'm not entirely sure how the resource tracker reports disk usage for a flavor like that which *is* using local disk
15:26:38 mriedem where root_gb=0
15:27:05 mriedem sean-k-mooney: we've also said you shouldn't use root_gb=0 except for volume-backed flavors
15:27:15 mriedem and added a policy rule in rocky to disable that
15:27:27 sean-k-mooney mriedem: oh cool
15:27:37 sean-k-mooney is is set by default
15:28:02 mriedem sean-k-mooney: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/763fd62464e9a0753e061171cc1fd826055bbc01
15:28:14 mriedem the plan was to disable that by default starting in stein
15:28:27 mriedem so you can't boot a server with a root_gb=0 flavor unless you're doing boot from volume
15:28:35 cdent dansmith: microversions :(
15:28:52 mriedem how are microversions related to this?
15:29:08 dansmith I assume because I messed up a version in my test
15:29:10 cdent (sorry, his test)
15:29:13 mriedem ah
15:29:16 mriedem whew
15:29:48 sean-k-mooney mriedem: right ok cool. if you have existing instces booted that way we sould have to update teh embeeded flavor or resouce dict to indicate or live migration will explode
15:29:51 mriedem sean-k-mooney: so figuring out how we track disk usage for those types of flavors in the resource tracker would be good to know
15:30:05 mriedem because if it was never tracked as usage before, then it's not really a huge regression to not be tracking it in placement
15:30:08 sean-k-mooney mriedem: im pretry sure we track it as 0
15:30:20 sean-k-mooney e.g. we dont track it at all
15:30:42 mriedem sean-k-mooney: i think that too b/c https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L1461
15:30:49 mriedem object_or_dict.flavor.root_gb
15:31:00 sean-k-mooney it was a way to bypass qouta in the past
15:31:01 mriedem the is_bfv in there was just recently added in the same series of fixes for the bfv thing
15:31:32 mriedem right, so to summarize, don't set flavor root_gb=0 *unless* those flavors are only used with bfv instances,
15:31:44 mriedem and we have the is_bfv root_gb reporting in the RT and placement fixed in rocky
15:32:31 dansmith melwitt: aight, well, anyway, my recommendation is that we just remove that inventory quirk for rocky since it can't work and it's one line. alternatively, at least a known-issue reno just to cover our butts in case someone hits it
15:32:35 sean-k-mooney mriedem: ya i think though we will have to fix up the allcoation for existing instance that are not bfv going forward
15:32:51 mriedem sean-k-mooney: we do
15:32:52 dansmith melwitt: it's like having a half-merged feature.. doesn't really serve any purpose and is externally tickle-able to failure
15:33:02 dansmith obviously your call on what to do
15:33:12 mriedem sean-k-mooney: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583715/
15:33:24 mriedem sean-k-mooney: we'll heal on move
15:33:26 cdent any swag on how hard to make it go, now-ish?
15:33:38 mriedem "make it go" == make it work?
15:33:53 mriedem we don't even have multi-node shared storage provider CI
15:33:56 mriedem so very high risk IMO
15:33:57 sean-k-mooney mriedem: in the non BFV case we need to read the size form the image if the flavor root_gb=0
15:34:00 mriedem way too late
15:34:11 mriedem sean-k-mooney: yup
15:34:13 dansmith yeah, way too late to try to make any of the broken non-broken
15:34:19 mriedem but that's not reported to the RT as far as i know
15:34:27 fried_rice dansmith: I can propose that if you like.
15:34:39 dansmith fried_rice: which?
15:34:41 mriedem dansmith: so we should likely start with a bug saying this stuff will nuke your DISK_GB allocations on failure or revert at least
15:34:51 mriedem fried_rice: melwitt: ^
15:34:53 fried_rice dansmith: Taking that line out of the libvirt driver.
15:35:09 dansmith mriedem: for sure
15:35:24 dansmith fried_rice: sure, I'm happy to do it as well, either way
15:35:28 mriedem and we can track the various bugs in a spec in stein if we're going to go full on and support this
15:36:01 fried_rice dansmith: You want to write up the bug, I'll do the patch?
15:36:02 mriedem b/c we need a spec for the upgrade impacts obviously, and how to deploy the thing, plus CI requirements (which i'm already half-way done with)
15:36:03 melwitt sounds like a plan
15:36:21 dansmith fried_rice: if mriedem isn't going to
15:36:34 mriedem go ahead
15:36:43 dansmith fried_rice: I think mriedem really wants to do it
15:36:46 dansmith I heard him say earlier
15:36:53 dansmith so I don't want to step on his toes
15:36:57 mriedem i'm cleaning up stephenfin's last 2 changes in his vswitc hseries
15:37:04 dansmith because I think he measures his weekly progress by bugs reported
15:37:07 dansmith mriedem: more?
15:37:08 mriedem plus, zuul just f'ed my ceph ci run that was almost done!
15:37:12 melwitt this is new, gate failure RETRY_LIMIT
15:37:15 melwitt great
15:37:19 mriedem melwitt: yes same
15:37:34 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: funtional test with sharing providers https://review.openstack.org/586589
15:37:36 mriedem infra just posted a status
15:37:36 mriedem #status alert A zuul config error slipped through and caused a pile of job failures with retry_limit - a fix is being applied and should be back up in a few minutes
15:37:44 mriedem so don't recheck
15:38:15 cdent dansmith: ^ that gets the test actually making reasonable requests, but no more that that
15:38:27 cdent not sure if you care given the earlier discussion, but in case you do...
15:38:52 dansmith cdent: yeah, probably don't care now that I found this other one
15:38:57 dansmith but thanks for setting me straight
15:40:57 fried_rice cdent: All I care about is that you misspelled funtional
15:40:59 mriedem i can write the bug if no one has started yet
15:41:27 fried_rice Do it. And let the English see you do it.
15:41:40 mriedem alright
15:42:00 cdent fried_rice: that was dansmith in this case
15:42:16 dansmith I was rushing
15:42:16 cdent but I can see how it being me would be unsurprising
15:42:34 cdent is my new excuse
15:42:40 fried_rice cdent: If it had been three weeks ago, and it had been fuctional, I would have totally known it was you.
15:43:42 cdent I fuctional tests all the time
15:44:16 fried_rice Is there a way to mark a normal funtional test as an xfail?
15:45:46 fried_rice oh, shit, bhagyashri's test still succeeds with that bit commented out :(
15:46:32 fried_rice ignore me, phew.

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