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#openstack-nova - 2018-06-18
13:10:21 efried Pretty sure they also only use one hardware node, but not sure how many VMs they can handle.
13:10:28 edmondsw a lot
13:10:29 cdent the limits show up when the count of instances goes high, so it sounds like it would impact you guys too
13:10:34 efried I was kinda thinking they would typically have biggish VMs, but no reason to think that.
13:10:56 cdent things like syncing power state info
13:11:00 efried cdent: Well, it sounds like we cut you off at 1000 from a support statement standpoint, so...
13:11:22 efried I guess as soon as someone demands more, we'll see.
13:11:30 cdent are you interested in/excited by/disturbed by making that limit higher?
13:11:35 cdent jinxish
13:11:58 cdent it appears that going higher is relatively straightfoward. the limits are basically of the "oh we didn't think of that" variety
13:15:21 efried cdent: Oh, is there some hardcoded limit somewhere? I was getting the impression it was more of an overload.
13:19:53 edmondsw efried cdent I am told that PowerVC chose 1000 because PowerVM itself only supports 1000 per node
13:20:11 efried okay, fair enough.
13:23:15 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Revert "Re-using the code of os brick cinder" https://review.openstack.org/576136
13:33:01 openstackgerrit Julia Kreger proposed openstack/nova master: ironic: bugfix: ensure a host is set for volume connectors https://review.openstack.org/571982
13:33:07 mriedem i've moved certs validation out of the runway, it's complete
13:33:33 mriedem alex_xu: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/560317/ ready for a runway slot?
13:35:46 cdent efried: no, no hardcoded limit (that I'm aware of).
13:35:48 mriedem it looks like it probably is...
13:40:41 mriedem bauzas: consecutive build failure weigher backport to pike is ready to go https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573248/
13:40:43 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Deprecate 'network_manager' https://review.openstack.org/530923
13:41:04 bauzas mriedem: roger.
13:41:58 stephenfin mdbooth, mriedem: There was a follow-up fix required for this, right? Do you recall what it was? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524681/
13:42:14 stephenfin Trying to decide whether to fix or abandon the backports I have proposed
13:42:53 mriedem i don't remember off the top of my head
13:46:46 bauzas mriedem: +W'aboom
13:47:16 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: Simplify instance name generation https://review.openstack.org/516573
13:47:17 mriedem bauzas: thanks
13:50:32 alex_xu mriedem: let me do a review on it first
14:08:38 mriedem tssurya: i put something together this morning https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1777458
14:08:39 openstack Launchpad bug 1777458 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Listing instances with a marker that is in the build_requests table and the ip/ip6 filters results in an error" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)
14:08:44 mriedem working a fix now, but have a functional test recreate
14:08:54 tssurya I saw it just now
14:11:09 tssurya oh new bug! I was checking the update here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575556/
14:13:52 tssurya mriedem: I also have something which is a very dirty POC (without version bumps yet, see comment) : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575996/ for the spec, however I just wanted to know if you and gibi were thinking something similar for linking the "is this cell down" to adding the uuids to the new top key. Please have a look whenever you have the time
14:14:14 gibi tssurya: ack
14:14:21 tssurya gibi: thanks
14:38:17 vpc can i use pxe_ssh as a driver for my ironic since my hardware is dont have ipmi
14:39:30 artom If it's real hardware I'm pretty you need ipmi...
14:45:46 gibi tssurya: I left some idea inline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575996/
14:45:58 tssurya gibi: yep, checking thanks a lot
14:47:00 vpc artom yes it is real hardware
14:47:26 ZZellefr garyk: Hi
14:47:42 artom vpc, so I'm no Ironic expert, but thinking about it logically, you need ipmi
14:47:55 vpc i have this 2 module
14:47:57 artom Otherwise how are you going to get an OS to run on the machine?
14:48:02 vpc ipmi_msghandler
14:48:08 vpc and ipmi_devintf
15:00:33 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Fix regression when listing build_requests with marker and ip filter https://review.openstack.org/576161
15:00:40 mriedem tssurya: dansmith: melwitt: ^
15:00:53 mriedem that's also regressed in queens
15:07:57 openstackgerrit Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: metadata: Add '[metadata] domain_name' option https://review.openstack.org/480616
15:08:19 stephenfin mriedem, dansmith, <anyone else who was in the nova-neutron cross-project talk>: I took the easy out with that dhcp_domain name deprecation thing. Context in the commit message. Lemme know if you (dis)agree, please :)
15:08:59 dansmith mriedem: melwitt is out this week
15:09:26 mriedem oh that's right
15:09:50 dansmith stephenfin: I thought the easy out is just not touching what we have and undeprecating it?
15:09:52 mriedem stephenfin: easy out?
15:10:09 mriedem stephenfin: there was an agreed-to plan to fix the issue, did you or did you not follow that plan?
15:10:15 dansmith because a new thing means everyone has to change config afaict
15:11:04 stephenfin mriedem: There were two option but no clear indication which one to go for https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR18-novaneutron-ops-cross-project-session
15:11:35 mriedem option 2, L35
15:11:36 dansmith I thought the clear way was identified as just leaving what we had
15:11:52 mriedem "change the dhcp_domain default to None and check that in the code; if not set, default to 'novalocal' which is the previous default; then check if network.dns_domain is set and if so, you use it, else something something use dhcp_domain...."
15:12:26 cdent something I forgot to ask in scheduler meeting: should we seek spec freeze exception on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552105/ ? melwitt, jaypipes ?
15:12:57 stephenfin mriedem: Right, option two of two. Option one is still valid, no?
15:13:40 mriedem stephenfin: no, we agreed on option 2 during the session
15:13:56 dansmith stephenfin: even still your patch isn't option 1 either is it?
15:14:01 mriedem it's not
15:14:05 dansmith that's what I'm trying to get at
15:14:40 stephenfin dansmith: It's a variant of 1. I figured we could take the option to clean this up while we were at it, as we've done extensively in the past. "dhcp_domain" makes no sense, right?
15:15:42 stephenfin mriedem: Your recollection of that differs from mine. I don't recall anyone stating a reason _to_ enable neutron integration
15:16:27 dansmith stephenfin: my recollection matches mriedem's as well
15:16:29 stephenfin while there were a few reasons not to (it's not always available, it'll break configurations, there are multiple ways this can be configured in neutron)
15:16:43 dansmith stephenfin: right so you give it priority if it's defined
15:16:51 dansmith if not, you fall back to the conf value
15:17:01 dansmith and I don't think I heard anything in the room about changing the conf option,
15:17:01 mriedem yeah that's what i remember, we have a priority order
15:17:11 mriedem one of which is allowing using the network.dns_domain from neutron
15:18:05 stephenfin Hmm, that takes us firmly into feature territory
15:18:32 stephenfin A feature that, again, I didn't hear anyone actually ask for
15:18:53 dansmith who else was in there, gibi ?
15:19:14 mriedem i know sorrison was in the room
15:19:21 stephenfin dansmith: gibi and melwitt, I think. Not sure about bauzas
15:19:29 dansmith melwitt is out this week
15:19:40 bauzas mmm ?
15:19:47 gibi I was there but honestly I don't remember :/ reading the etherpad now to get memories back
15:19:54 mriedem "smorrison says everyone will read the release notes."
15:20:16 dansmith mriedem: right, related to giving the neutron value precedence right?
15:20:17 mriedem we likely indicated this would be a behavior change, mentioned in release notes
15:20:19 mriedem yes
15:20:26 dansmith because if we weren't going to change anything (option 1) then it wouldn't matter
15:20:34 mriedem and sam was a proxy for all openstack operators worldwide
15:21:17 bauzas stephenfin: sorry can't help, was in another room AFAIR
15:21:53 mriedem so dhcp_domain takes precedence if set
15:22:06 mriedem as noted inline, some people set that to '' to skip all that logic and just use the server hostname provided by the user
15:22:32 mriedem if dhcp_domain is None, then we use the network.dns_domain (if set), else default to 'novalocal' which is the default today
15:23:07 mriedem so if, as an operator, i want the user-supplied name to be the hostname, i set dhcp_domain=''
15:23:18 mriedem if i want novalocal, i set dhcp_domain=novalocal explicitly
15:23:26 mriedem else i let it come from the network (if set)
15:24:08 stephenfin mriedem: I get that. I'm asking what the rationale for pulling it from neutron in the first place is. I haven't seen an RFE/bug open for this in the past so is it an issue?

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