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#openstack-nova - 2018-06-08
18:33:00 mgagne alright, will go back to my ffu dungeon then :D
18:34:27 mriedem say hi to lyaaaaaaaarwood for me
18:35:40 mgagne is it a friend or some beast I should find and fight in the dungeon? :D
18:36:18 mgagne oh, a ffu expert :D
18:36:47 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Ensure resource class cache when listing usages https://review.openstack.org/573811
18:38:18 mriedem lyaaaaaaaarwood is a level 12 FFU paladin with a ring of +3 "soft speaking"
18:46:17 mriedem cfriesen: https://review.openstack.org/573813
18:49:18 mriedem cfriesen: openstack server migration list / abort etc is probably good yeah
18:49:21 mriedem since we have openstack server migrate
18:49:29 mriedem and don't want to get confused with openstack volume migrate
18:49:37 mriedem i leave stuff like that up to the osc ux wizards
20:12:19 jroll is it expected that we should be able to run 'show' or 'delete' via openstackclient on instances in cell0?
20:12:22 jroll using ocata
20:12:50 jroll even list bombs out
20:13:19 jroll http://paste.openstack.org/show/6YrSmjMSo0lIxyFjbPIz/
20:13:35 jroll looks like it's hitting the wrong database when trying to refresh the instance in _load_flavor()
20:14:21 jroll looks like this bug which expired: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1749167
20:14:23 openstack Launchpad bug 1749167 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova show can not get an instance information, and this instance can be queried from nova list." [Undecided,Expired]
20:14:42 jroll by the way bowser was trying to ask about the actual scheduling problem, sounds like maybe this is expected?
20:17:21 melwitt jroll: I don't think it's expected
20:18:22 melwitt we had bugs around instance list/show back then, which we fixed. I'm looking through bugs to see if any were this
20:18:27 temka The fact that it's hitting it in flavor...
20:18:41 jroll I didn't immediately see it searching everything for "cell0"
20:18:43 melwitt you have the latest ocata or an earlier one?
20:18:52 jroll should be latest, lemme verify
20:18:54 melwitt yeah, I'm not immediately finding anything either
20:19:03 melwitt it's hard to find these things
20:19:59 jroll well wtf, our latest upstream commit is 125dd1f30fdaf50182256c56808a5199856383c7
20:20:04 jroll which was february
20:20:22 melwitt I'm not sure if it matters, just wanted to make sure I understand which code you have
20:20:49 jroll it matters that I have a broken assumption :)
20:22:24 jroll similar: https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e0c1d461af0701adb94e6974f363e12395ed0162
20:22:42 jroll but I don't think it's the same
20:23:11 temka jroll, 2e68b2298e94a15d1282c0fb46804b9efa6c8b3a ?
20:23:30 temka Seems old tho
20:23:40 jroll yeah, we would have that
20:24:19 melwitt it's trying to lazy-load the flavor from the database, first thing it does while doing that is the lookup the instance, and that is not found because it's looking in the wrong database
20:24:29 jroll exactly
20:24:32 melwitt this sounds so familiar, just not finding a bug that matches yet
20:24:41 temka melwitt, yep, same here
20:24:46 temka I swear I've seen this
20:25:40 jroll melwitt: in the meantime, we can manually delete it from cell0.instances and nova_api.instance_mappings, trigger a quota reset... will all the other tables get cleaned up on delete?
20:28:10 melwitt I will say that ocata is particularly fraught with problems because the way we were doing cell targeting back then had some fundamental problems which we changed in pike, but was a huge change that backporting would involve backporting a ton of disjointed things in pike, so we abandoned it
20:28:57 jroll mmm
20:28:59 melwitt (assuming that things are okay-enough in ocata. if they're not, then we have to find another way to solve it)
20:29:53 melwitt jroll: yeah, I think that would do it as a manual cleanup. are you seeing this on/during an upgrade or on already-upgraded-and-been-running clusters?
20:30:24 jroll melwitt: already upgraded
20:30:39 jroll we shut down the API for this upgrade
20:30:42 melwitt jroll: okay, so any new instance that fails to schedule gets in this un-listable state
20:31:02 jroll trying to verify that now
20:31:10 jroll this instance is still in BUILD, rather than ERROR
20:31:19 jroll and is the only thing in instance_mappings with cell_id=NULL
20:31:44 melwitt oh, that's interesting. but yet it's in cell0, in BUILD state but not ERROR
20:32:17 jroll yep
20:32:22 jroll and built > 16 hours ago
20:32:28 melwitt cell_id=NULL is a problem. that should be cell0 if it's in cell0
20:32:32 melwitt hmm
20:32:40 jroll task_state=scheduling
20:32:51 jroll so it's like it got dropped by rabbit or something? idk
20:33:53 melwitt yeah, I dunno. we have also heard from CERN folks of some instance_mappings ending up with cell_id=NULL but I've not understood the conditions under which it happened
20:35:21 melwitt while instances are in the middle of scheduling, they are supposed to be listed/shown using their build_requests in the nova_api database, IIRC
20:36:07 jroll hm, can't run server show on other instances in cell0 either
20:36:12 jroll so maybe that's unrelated
20:36:21 jroll though that 404s instead of 500s
20:37:58 jroll cell_id=1 doesn't break server list either, but doesn't show up in the response
20:38:24 melwitt okay, first check the db connection string for cell0 in nova_api.cell_mappings and make sure it's right, then look in nova_api.instance_mappings and check if cell_id is cell0, then check if the instance is in nova_cell0.instances. that's how it's all connected
20:39:35 jroll yeah, that's all correct
20:39:44 melwitt it will go instance_mappings.cell_id => db connect to cell_mappings.cell_id database_connection string => <cell database>.instances (if the instance has completed scheduling, either via success or error)
20:40:17 melwitt if it did not complete scheduling, it will live in build_requests only and have cell_id=NULL, I believe
20:40:42 jroll nod
20:40:50 melwitt :/ okay, if that's all correct I don't understand how it could _not_ be able to 'nova show' it
20:41:04 melwitt does that still fail with the flavor lazy-load thing?
20:41:13 jroll digging logs now for the 404
20:41:45 melwitt meaning, the instance that checks out as far as all the things connected properly, fails on the flavor lazy-load?
20:44:20 jroll right, so the one that is properly mapped to cell0
20:44:53 jroll is throwing a 404
20:45:20 jroll HTTP exception thrown: Instance 75e193c5-6700-4d67-be44-7020fb4129ed could not be found.
20:45:34 melwitt okay
20:46:28 melwitt still trying to parse whether that lazy-load read_deleted bug you linked earlier is this or not
20:46:48 melwitt the bug seems light on details
20:46:58 jroll yeah, ditto
20:48:48 melwitt okay, so this is about deleted instances not being found when trying to lazy-load other instance properties. that seems kinda chicken and egg. (how did you get the deleted instance to lazy-load from in the first place?)
20:49:15 melwitt but your instances have not been deleted, so I think it's probably not the same bug
20:51:37 melwitt jroll: what's your service version for the nova-osapi_compute service?
20:52:09 melwitt probably in nova_cell0.services
20:52:49 jroll right, not deleted
20:54:10 jroll debug logs gave me jack
20:54:17 jroll no records in nova_cell0.services O_o
20:54:34 melwitt must be in a different db then, I don't know where to expect it
20:55:13 melwitt oh, maybe just nova?
20:55:20 jroll 16 in nova yeah
20:55:25 melwitt the non-compute service records are all together. okay
20:55:56 jroll bah, dogs need to go out, bbiab
20:56:02 melwitt k
20:56:39 melwitt so you should be in here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/ocata/nova/compute/api.py#L2322-L2347
21:00:25 melwitt oh, wait, it never even gets there. uuugggh
21:00:56 melwitt this is trying to look up the instance long before instance mappings are even begun to be examined
21:03:55 jroll the "bad" one does get that far
21:04:31 jroll but can't tell on the "good" one since there's no traceback or anything on the 404
21:05:28 jroll I need to take off shortly, can write up something in launchpad for now?

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