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#openstack-nova - 2018-03-30
21:26:11 imacdonn mriedem: see Sylvain's comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1751692
21:26:11 openstack Launchpad bug 1751692 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "os_region_name an unnecessary required option for placement " [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15)
21:26:11 mriedem since ocata
21:26:51 imacdonn Isn't the recommendation to only specify region_name if you need to override what keystone offers ?
21:27:07 mriedem i don't think region_name gets a default
21:27:22 imacdonn and it doesn't *need* a default
21:27:28 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html#placement.os_region_name
21:28:24 imacdonn the check was originally put there for people upgrading from newton to ocata, to catch the case where they didn't notice that placement must be configured (where it was not required before)
21:29:24 imacdonn but we're way past that now .. if you don't have placement configured, it'll be very obvious
21:29:40 mriedem well,
21:29:52 mriedem if you're using the FilterScheduler yeah, but not if you're using the CachingScheduler which doesn't use placement
21:30:12 mriedem but we do want the computes putting inventory information into placement so we can eventually migrate CachingScheduler users
21:30:35 mriedem idk, maybe it's ok to remove at this point,
21:30:45 mriedem we don't fail to start nova-compute if you're using neutron but dont have [neutron] creds configured
21:30:47 mriedem but that's required also
21:30:55 imacdonn I forget how it failed for me when I had no [placement] config, but it was pretty obvious
21:31:00 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: remove unnecessary short cut in placement https://review.openstack.org/553122
21:31:07 imacdonn yeah
21:31:32 imacdonn I think it was a safety check that maybe made sense at the time, but it's not needed now
21:32:00 imacdonn ... and, if such a check really is needed, it should check some config option that's actually required
21:32:01 mriedem maybe you can convince fried_bunny to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557086/ to do what you want
21:32:13 imacdonn region_name is not required to be set, other than by this check
21:33:34 fried_bunny I was wondering about that.
21:33:51 imacdonn that does look related .... I think if we remove the check, that test would be removed with it
21:34:19 fried_bunny agree with that.
21:34:34 fried_bunny But yeah, I was wondering why we were checking for region_name, since I didn't think it was required.
21:36:19 imacdonn yeah, so... we could either update your change, or abandon it and do a new one ... either way, it should "Closes-Bug: 1751692"
21:36:19 openstack bug 1751692 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "os_region_name an unnecessary required option for placement " [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751692 - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15)
21:36:45 fried_bunny imacdonn: Any idea what *would* be a required opt in the [placement] section?
21:37:33 mriedem watch out
21:38:01 fried_bunny mriedem: Would it be the worst thing for us to change that check to actually go grab the version document from placement as a (better) way of assuring that it's configured?
21:38:19 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Teardown networking when rolling back live migration even if shared disk https://review.openstack.org/555481
21:38:19 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: DRY up test_rollback_live_migration_set_migration_status https://review.openstack.org/555489
21:38:20 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Avoid unnecessary port update during live migration https://review.openstack.org/556332
21:38:20 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add check if neutron "binding-extended" extension is available https://review.openstack.org/523548
21:38:21 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "bind_ports_to_host" neutron API method https://review.openstack.org/523604
21:38:21 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add VIFMigrateData object for live migration https://review.openstack.org/515423
21:38:22 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: libvirt: use dest host vif migrate details for live migration https://review.openstack.org/551370
21:38:23 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "delete_port_binding" network API method https://review.openstack.org/552170
21:38:23 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Add "activate_port_binding" neutron API method https://review.openstack.org/555947
21:38:24 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Delete port bindings in setup_networks_on_host if teardown=True https://review.openstack.org/556333
21:38:24 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Implement migrate_instance_start method for neutron https://review.openstack.org/556334
21:38:25 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: compute: use port binding extended API during live migration https://review.openstack.org/551371
21:38:25 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Port binding based on events during live migration https://review.openstack.org/434870
21:38:26 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: conductor: use port binding extended API in during live migrate https://review.openstack.org/522537
21:38:26 openstackgerrit Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Wait for network-vif-plugged before starting live migration https://review.openstack.org/558001
21:39:06 mriedem fried_bunny: imacdonn: idk, definitely not something i care to think about when i'm about 10 minutes from a 4 day break
21:39:26 mriedem i'm sure dansmith would like to make this is first thing monday morning
21:39:30 mriedem *his
21:40:33 imacdonn mriedem fried_bunny dansmith: it can wait (from my perspective) ... I was mostly treating it as "low-hanging fruit"
21:42:36 fried_bunny imacdonn: Are you interested in writing some code for this?
21:43:53 imacdonn fried_bunny: I was interested in a simple patch to remove the check and associated unit-test... beyond that, probably not really (have bigger fish to fry)
21:44:12 fried_bunny imacdonn: The fix wouldn't be much more than that.
21:44:22 imacdonn heheh ... or bunnies to fry, as the case may be ;)
21:44:54 fried_bunny imacdonn: Instead of just removing the check, replace it with something like:
21:44:54 fried_bunny try:
21:44:54 fried_bunny self.reportclient.get('/')
21:44:54 fried_bunny except:
21:44:54 fried_bunny raise exception.PlacementNotConfigured()
21:46:28 imacdonn I can give that a go ... I actually want to see what happens if placement is not configured and there's no check first, though
21:47:39 fried_bunny coolcool. Feel free to add me (efried) to the review if you do decide to spin something up.
21:48:33 imacdonn fried_bunny mriedem http://paste.openstack.org/show/718043/
21:48:55 imacdonn that's what I get if there's no [placement] section in my compute's nova.conf
21:49:21 imacdonn looks pretty obvious to me
21:49:56 fried_bunny imacdonn: ...and you removed that region_name check?
21:49:58 imacdonn although maybe with different scheduler config, it'd be less-so
21:50:06 imacdonn yeah, I commented out the check
21:52:08 fried_bunny imacdonn: I amend my suggested code change above. It should be more like:
21:52:08 fried_bunny if self.reportclient.get('/') is None:
21:52:08 fried_bunny raise...
21:53:05 fried_bunny Then you'll get that auth warning as well as the PlacementNotConfigured exception.
21:57:46 imacdonn hmm, doesn't seem to be working ... still experimenting
21:58:30 fried_bunny oh
21:59:12 fried_bunny imacdonn: You don't need auth to get the version document. So if placement is actually running and there's a service catalog entry for it, that will succeed.
21:59:32 imacdonn well, it's getting the MissingAuthPlugin, so it doesn't actually get to raise the PlacementNotConfigured
21:59:37 fried_bunny Right.
21:59:47 fried_bunny I assume you have the service running and there's an entry for it in the service catalog?
21:59:57 fried_bunny ...but no [placement] section in your conf.
22:00:00 imacdonn right
22:00:28 fried_bunny The version document doesn't require authentication, and we'll get the endpoint from the service catalog, so get('/') will actually work. And then you'll blow up later when you try to hit a real URI.
22:00:37 fried_bunny And I contend that's actually the behavior we want.
22:00:54 fried_bunny If you shut down your placement service and try again, I think you'll get the PlacementNotConfigured error.
22:01:45 imacdonn that's not really what this check was intended for, though
22:01:53 imacdonn (originally, at least)
22:02:48 fried_bunny well, it was to make sure you had "configured" placement. It didn't previously do anything to ensure you'd configured it *right*. Heck, it wasn't even checking a thing that you had to have, clearly.
22:03:27 imacdonn in my interpretation, it was to check that you had the compute service configured to use placement, not to check that placement is functional
22:04:09 fried_bunny okay, I can buy that interpretation. In which case maybe auth stuff not being empty is more appropriate to check for in here.
22:05:00 fried_bunny because correct me if I'm wrong, but you *can't* get by without e.g. [placement]auth_type ?
22:05:35 imacdonn I thought so, but Matt said something about different scheduler options, so I lost confidence for a bit
22:06:09 fried_bunny shit, if there's a scheduler option that doesn't use placement, then why are we enforcing that you have it set up when you're not using that scheduler option.
22:06:45 imacdonn "mriedem> but we do want the computes putting inventory information into placement so we can eventually migrate CachingScheduler users"
22:06:48 fried_bunny Whatever, this is probably a better thing to discuss on Monday or Tuesday when people who were around for the inception of this check are back from worshipping egg-laying rabbits.
22:07:26 imacdonn you mean chocolate-egg-laying rabbits, of course
22:12:11 imacdonn try:
22:12:12 imacdonn if self.reportclient.get('/') is None:
22:12:12 imacdonn log.error('placement is not working - I should raise '
22:12:12 imacdonn 'some sort of exception here')
22:12:12 imacdonn except keystone_exception.MissingAuthPlugin:
22:12:12 imacdonn raise exception.PlacementNotConfigured()
22:12:31 imacdonn (maybe - "thinking out loud")

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