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#openstack-nova - 2018-03-27
13:55:16 efried bauzas: If there's a PCI ID in the file, then we have to say that the file gets parsed by virt alone. Kind of thing.
13:55:48 bauzas efried: yeah, zactly that
13:56:04 efried bauzas: So... you want to do something like this for Rocky?
13:56:08 bauzas I guess
13:56:17 bauzas if nested RPs is a thing :)
13:56:22 efried bauzas: Cause this is edging unequivocally into Generic Device Management territory.
13:56:34 alex_xu_ bauzas: when your request VGPU_thistype, how do you change total=0 for the VGPU_thosetype?
13:56:48 bauzas alex_xu_: that's magically done by sysfs
13:57:03 bauzas alex_xu_: which I'm using for getting the inventory
13:57:05 alex_xu_ bauzas: but how the placement to know that
13:57:20 bauzas alex_xu_: because we provide inventories of VGPU resouces as of queens :)
13:57:27 efried bauzas: Wait, you're talking about doing that at setup time, not at allocation time, right?
13:57:28 bauzas that are populated based on sysfs :)
13:58:12 bauzas efried: alex_xu_ is talking of the case where we would have pGPU types as children
13:58:14 alex_xu_ bauzas: if there are two requests at same time. One for VGPU_thistype, another for VGPU_thosetype. So there will be race case. Only one can successful in the host finally
13:58:18 efried bauzas: Bricks will be shat by several people if you start talking about modifying inventory of Y because X got allocated.
13:58:32 bauzas alex_xu_: yeah I considered the race condition
13:58:41 bauzas alex_xu_: and that's actually a good call for not doing that
13:58:52 bauzas but rather doing a whitelisting on the virt driver direcrtly
13:59:07 alex_xu_ bauzas: so limit only one type in each host?
14:00:27 bauzas alex_xu_: no, one type per physical GPU
14:00:41 alex_xu_ ah, i got it
14:00:42 bauzas one type per host is already here
14:00:59 bauzas except the fact we don't use traits atm
14:01:29 bauzas anyway, will just propose something soon so we could see if that requires some spec
14:01:43 bauzas or at least some spec amendment
14:01:50 efried bauzas: Right, so you're setting up the types & inventories the first time you load up. The first time update_provider_tree runs, it reads that config file and sets up the provider tree with types & inventories according to what the admin put in there. Right?
14:01:59 bauzas ++
14:02:12 efried Cool cool
14:02:16 alex_xu_ the race condidates only happened one time, if people accept that, it also ok
14:02:20 bauzas efried: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/queens/implemented/add-support-for-vgpu.html describes that partially
14:02:34 jaypipes guh, it would have been nice to have more than a few hours of sleep before spec sprint day... :(
14:02:41 efried bauzas: I can also see a solution that goes halfway in the future...
14:02:55 bauzas jaypipes: take caffeine or drugs, either.
14:03:32 bauzas jaypipes: FWIW, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541290/7/specs/rocky/approved/numa-aware-vswitches.rst will require me some paracetamol
14:03:36 bauzas stephenfin: ^ ;)
14:03:50 cdent jaypipes: start on an easy one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418393/
14:03:52 edleafe jaypipes: have you tried the blue meth?
14:04:02 bauzas always take the blue pill
14:04:04 stephenfin I hear the blue meth is real good
14:04:13 bauzas never choose the red one
14:04:35 efried bauzas: In a fashion similar to neutron port creation, the user could create the VGPU resource before doing the boot request. The VGPU creation would eventually hit vendor-specific code (maybe virt, maybe some agent - cyborg?) which actually *would* tweak the inventories and available types. Then you would attach that VGPU to your boot request, just like you would a port.
14:05:03 alex_xu_ efried: any legal drugs in Florida?
14:05:26 efried alex_xu_: Legal schmegal. But I'm in Texas.
14:05:30 bauzas efried: creating the mediated devices in advance is already a possibility
14:05:32 efried In Florida, they wash up on the beach.
14:08:46 kashyap alex_xu_: Hey there
14:09:12 kashyap alex_xu_: About your comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/16/nova/tests/unit/virt/libvirt/test_config.py
14:09:21 efried bauzas: But having that creation impact placement inventories would be new.
14:09:34 bauzas efried: no, it's already the case
14:09:42 kashyap alex_xu_: The test you pointed out is slightly different in that, it is testing: 'obj.extra_flags'
14:09:43 efried oh?
14:09:57 bauzas efried: if you create a mediated device, libvirt will just add that to the total
14:10:11 bauzas I should write a blogpost on this...
14:10:34 bauzas because creating a mediated device doesn't mean you *use* it for a guesrt
14:10:53 bauzas so, placement is getting an inventory of 'available+created' as a total already
14:11:20 efried cool
14:12:11 jaypipes stephenfin: and ack on the OVS documentation being awful.
14:12:19 jaypipes OVS-DPDK that is.
14:14:57 dansmith efried: mriedem: I can never remember the moving target of translations.. we're translating exceptions now, but not translating logs _at all_ (even warning) ?
14:15:26 bauzas dansmith: right IIRC
14:15:28 efried dansmith: correct
14:15:49 bauzas because translating logs is too much for the i18n team
14:15:57 bauzas they aren't able to scale
14:16:24 efried Nice patch for a new contributor: remove _Lx from nova.i18n, see what breaks, fix it.
14:17:36 dansmith wtfever
14:18:07 dansmith not marking them means they _can't_ be translated which seems like a stupid step back, but whatever
14:21:09 openstackgerrit Patricia Domingues proposed openstack/nova master: load up the volume drivers by checking architecture https://review.openstack.org/541393
14:23:50 jaypipes efried: "The first time update_provider_tree runs, it reads that config file and sets up the provider tree with types & inventories according to what the admin put in there. Right?" <-- you mean, exactly like my provider-config-file spec enabled?
14:24:56 efried jaypipes: could be, could be. I'm not sure if I read that before it was declared moot, but if I did, I've purged it :(
14:25:47 efried jaypipes: Anyway, it sounds like a lovely idea you had :)
14:26:06 jaypipes efried, bauzas: I'm the person that would shit a brick if you start adding dynamic inventory creation based on whatever a user requested.
14:26:34 efried Yes, but not the only person.
14:26:52 bauzas jaypipes: I'm entering the danger timezone of me needing to go get my children at school
14:27:15 bauzas jaypipes: tl;dr I just want the inventory for that specific physical GPU to be config-driven
14:27:31 bauzas jaypipes: if that sounds crazy, tell me more in 20 mins :)
14:27:35 jaypipes bauzas: yet another whitelist conf option, yes, I know.
14:28:15 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Make get_allocation_candidates() honor aggregate restrictions https://review.openstack.org/547990
14:28:16 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add an index on aggregate_metadata.value https://review.openstack.org/555851
14:28:16 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add AggregateList.get_by_metadata() query method https://review.openstack.org/544728
14:28:17 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: Add require_tenant_aggregate request filter https://review.openstack.org/545002
14:28:17 openstackgerrit Dan Smith proposed openstack/nova master: WIP: Honor availability_zone hint via placement https://review.openstack.org/546282
14:29:12 sahid jaypipes: if you can enqueue this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511188/ :)
14:29:44 mriedem efried: can we abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497978/ or do you plan on updating it?
14:30:17 efried mriedem: Eventually. But I can abandon for now and resurrect at that time.
14:30:35 mriedem ok. i'm just starting backward for specs, oldest to newest and cleaning out the cruft.
14:30:56 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Network bandwidth resource provider https://review.openstack.org/502306
14:31:29 mriedem johnthetubaguy: should we abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438134/ for service-protected-servers? does that align with anything keystone is working on with RBAC?
14:31:32 mriedem edmondsw: ^
14:32:35 edmondsw in a mtg, will look in a few
14:32:44 mriedem dansmith: this was the thing that prompted my ML thread about volume type proxy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466595/
14:32:53 mriedem i think...
14:33:22 dansmith ack
14:35:47 mriedem bauzas: i'm going to start an ops list thread about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446446/ since if it's just a bug fix for broken behavior, we don't need a spec or a microversion
14:37:29 bhagyashris mriedem, alex_xu_: Hi, I have proposed revised (as per the discussion in Dublin PTG) spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511825/2 (
14:37:29 bhagyashris Disallow rotation parameter 0 for 'createBackup' API) Request you to review the same.
14:37:54 mriedem bhagyashris: cool i'll review today
14:38:25 alex_xu_ kashyap: strange...I didn't see there is extra_flags in LibvirtConfigGuestCPU obj
14:38:39 alex_xu_ bhagyashris: cool, will try to reach that
14:38:45 kashyap alex_xu_: But, thanks to your comment, I could actually remove another line in the test

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