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#openstack-nova - 2018-03-14
02:12:16 Spaz-Home lol indeed artom , Night shift, so I work Asia hours :p
02:14:04 artom Spaz-Home, ah! I did night shift in a previous life, working support for a web host. It was... interesting
02:14:43 Spaz-Home That it is.. i've been doing it for about 10 years.. It can be extremely unhealthy, Just in the paste 2 years or so i've started to prioritize my health in the situation.
02:14:56 Spaz-Home But also.. I get to bother jianghuaw_ all night, which is probably the best benefit :P
02:15:15 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, good morning:-)
02:15:31 Spaz-Home Welcome home, sir.
02:15:35 artom I only did it for a few months, it definitely messed with me, I can't imagine doing it for years. We're not cats.
02:15:47 jichen jianghuaw_: thanks, I missed line 98 in the etherpad... :)
02:16:04 Spaz-Home Hehe yes sir.. I've honestly seem people's minds go a little crazy .. some people just are not made for that transition.
02:16:08 jianghuaw_ jichen, np:-)
02:18:32 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, thanks. Good job on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538415/ :-)
02:18:39 Spaz-Home Hey jianghuaw_ before I lose ya, Dan is asking for a Xen Subteam member to attend Nova Meeting this week for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/live-migration-in-xapi-pool
02:18:45 Spaz-Home Haha thanks sir, made me happy
02:19:31 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, yes. Naichuan or myself will attend this week's meeting.
02:19:43 jianghuaw_ Hope will get that BP be approved.
02:19:47 Spaz-Home Sounds good. I'd also like to discuss that with you a bit today or tomorrow if you have the time
02:19:54 Spaz-Home I do thin kthey plan to approve
02:20:08 jianghuaw_ Yes, we had some discussion in the PTG.
02:20:52 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, so what do you want to to chat on that topic?
02:21:20 Spaz-Home Well I understand the reason for the patch and it's basically just moving away from aggregates into the more refined pools, so I cannot speak anythign bad about the patch itself as it's the same situation but a different method
02:21:31 Spaz-Home However I still dislike that we're forcing an optional feature into the xenapi drives for LM to work
02:22:20 jianghuaw_ LM?
02:22:27 Spaz-Home My apologies, Live Migration
02:23:09 Spaz-Home I guess the best example would be my own environment we work in, We do not use Aggregates or Pooling, and just allow VMs to migrate around within the same Cell
02:23:39 Spaz-Home Since Networks are assigned through the cell and inventory is similar.. My thought however is how common that swetup would be rather than using pooling or aggregates.
02:23:50 jianghuaw_ Yes, the original plan for this feature is to support XAPI pool which is the direction which we think is better than the aggregation pool.
02:23:51 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/nova master: Reparent placement objects to oslo_versionedobjects https://review.openstack.org/551529
02:24:04 Spaz-Home I can certainly agree on that point
02:24:46 jianghuaw_ But later we noticed the existing aggregation pool is broken when introducing cells.
02:26:11 Spaz-Home Hrm.
02:27:25 jianghuaw_ I guess the use case you mentioned should be still supported.
02:27:47 Spaz-Home Well, as of right now it's definately not since it will fail pulling the aggregate, and I think it will now as well trying to pull a pool master.
02:28:00 jianghuaw_ As you're not using pool or aggregation, so ML should still work.
02:30:21 Spaz-Home yeah I don't think it will work looking at the new is_same_pool_host
02:30:29 Spaz-Home IT's going to look for that dest in the pool and fail just like the aggregation check does.
02:30:49 Spaz-Home I'll need to fire up a host to confirm that, but should throw an error
02:31:59 Spaz-Home I guess in the end I had two thoughts. If (when we make this final change to change the checks themselves) we could check if the pool is empty AND if CONF [cells]->Enable=True to figure out if a destination is acceptable
02:32:38 Spaz-Home Or if you guys do decide to jsut rely on pools, I would like to submit a followup patch to increase parity with block-migration. Right now block-migration is very much not aligned, as this is how we currently live migrate to avoid the aggregation check.
02:33:08 Spaz-Home That way things remain even and clean. We could use that opportunity to always run the assert_will_migrate and ensure that block-migration checks for the pool st atus as well.
02:34:40 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/xenapi/vmops.py#n2322
02:34:49 jianghuaw_ I think it should go to this branch.
02:35:14 jianghuaw_ It's not able to use shared SR to speed-up live-migration.
02:36:15 jianghuaw_ If want to use shared SR, surely must add hosts into the same pool.
02:38:14 jianghuaw_ Spaz-Home, also please note we will have a follow-up patch to remove the this upcall - _ensure_host_in_aggregate.
02:38:22 Spaz-Home Yeah got ya
02:39:13 Spaz-Home It's wierd that we're using block_migration like that.. but I actually hadn't looked at this line before
02:39:33 Spaz-Home Sicne block_migration is intended purely for iscsi stuff.. it's itneresting that we're using it to reroute the code lol
02:41:01 Spaz-Home Ok.. with that line I am fine with this then sir
02:41:06 jianghuaw_ Indeed. I agree. At sometime we should refactor this part to make it more reasonable.
02:41:25 Spaz-Home I think we need to just refactor the process overall.. I was thinking in a month or so just getting a whiteboard and seeing what I can do and send you pictures lol
02:41:32 Spaz-Home But a project for another time
02:42:36 jianghuaw_ Great. yes. just ping me if you have any thoughts at any time.
02:42:52 jianghuaw_ I'm happy that you're interested at it.
02:42:55 jianghuaw_ :-)
02:43:20 Spaz-Home Absolutely :D I'll submit a commit here this week as well to fix that assert_can_migrate as well so evertything asserts, and keep bug diving :P
02:43:26 Spaz-Home Enjoy the rest of your shift sir, let me know if you need anything
02:43:59 jianghuaw_ Thanks. It's too late for you.
02:44:05 jianghuaw_ time for bed
02:50:15 Spaz-Home Hehe nah I stay on my night shift on my weekends. Will be up until well after you're asleep.
02:50:36 Spaz-Home With my wife in Korea, I have to stay on the same hours as you basically :p
02:53:53 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow abort live migrations in queued status https://review.openstack.org/536722
02:55:44 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Allow abort live migrations in queued status https://review.openstack.org/536722
02:56:39 Spaz-Home Moving my second commit back down to subteam review. I self -1'ed it for the moment. Will fix unit tests tomorrow.
05:46:41 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/552774
05:55:14 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/533918
06:17:36 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/548772
06:34:25 openstackgerrit Zhenyu Zheng proposed openstack/nova master: nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows is not multi-cell aware https://review.openstack.org/507486
08:14:31 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: slow live-migration to ensure network is ready https://review.openstack.org/497457
08:27:43 openstackgerrit Jie Li proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Support volume-backed server rebuild https://review.openstack.org/532407
08:36:43 openstackgerrit sahid proposed openstack/nova-specs master: libvirt: add support for virtio-net rx/tx queue sizes https://review.openstack.org/539605
09:05:42 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766
09:05:43 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435
09:05:43 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move placement exceptions into the placement package https://review.openstack.org/549862
09:08:01 kashyap mdbooth: Saw the change last evening was letting Zuul go through its course.
09:20:34 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Move placement exceptions into the placement package https://review.openstack.org/549862
09:20:35 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Optional separate database for placement API https://review.openstack.org/362766
09:20:35 openstackgerrit Chris Dent proposed openstack/nova master: Isolate placement database config https://review.openstack.org/541435
09:27:18 bauzas man, I forgot my manners
09:27:25 bauzas good morning Nova
09:35:52 openstackgerrit Yikun Jiang (Kero) proposed openstack/nova-specs master: Complex (Anti)-Affinity Policies https://review.openstack.org/546925
09:37:40 pooja_jadhav cdent: Hi
09:38:24 cdent good morning pooja_jadhav
09:39:14 pooja_jadhav cdent: actually i want discuss with you regarding shared resource provider thing.
09:39:27 pooja_jadhav cdent: very gm :)
09:40:44 cdent pooja_jadhav: sure, but you should be aware that share providers are still a bit of a work in progress. Most of the functionality is nearly there, but nothing really uses it yet.
09:41:32 cdent What's your plan?
09:42:19 pooja_jadhav cdent: planning to test correct disk usage or not on shared storage
09:42:46 pooja_jadhav cdent : cdent: i have configured nfs backend, and created shared resource provider, but when i booted the instance it failing at line [1] https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/scheduler/manager.py#L138
09:43:41 cdent pooja_jadhav: is there an aggregate in place that associates the shared storage provider with one or more compute nodes that use it?
09:43:55 pooja_jadhav yes, aggregate is there
09:44:18 pooja_jadhav its not getting allocation request
09:44:52 pooja_jadhav when i create the instance, that instance going into error state
09:46:05 pooja_jadhav actually, where am i missing something, i am not getting :(
09:47:01 cdent tetsuro recently wrote an email with some updated information on the state of sharing providers, let me find that. It may be that what you're trying to do simply doesn't work in /allocation_candidates yet
09:47:36 cdent this message: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128141.html
09:47:39 pooja_jadhav ohkk
09:48:47 cdent That first item he lists, about the resource class existing in both places, may be part of the problem? Is the compute node reporting disk inventory ?
09:52:38 pooja_jadhav i have checked the db, inventory record i have created that exists
09:52:58 pooja_jadhav but to check that compute node is reporting it or not?
09:53:38 pooja_jadhav but how to check that compute node is reporting that inventory or not?

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