| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2018-03-12 | |||
| 13:03:30 | cdent | why have aggregates when we can have trait traits traits? | |
| 13:04:03 | cdent | (I actually do think it would be much more easy to reason about the world if we only had traits and not aggregates) | |
| 13:04:18 | cdent | but I'm a faceted classification kind of guy | |
| 13:04:55 | edleafe | we've been through this. There really is no difference. I prefer traits because it's shorter to type | |
| 13:05:02 | jaypipes | buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo | |
| 13:06:06 | cdent | parkay | |
| 13:07:03 | cdent | If traits is shorter than aggregates and that's good, then _clearly_ tags are the way to go | |
| 13:07:48 | arvindn05 | continue the discussion on #openstack-meeting-alt ? | |
| 13:07:50 | jaypipes | hehe | |
| 13:08:07 | jaypipes | arvindn05: in 55 minutes, no? | |
| 13:08:17 | edleafe | arvindn05: in 52 minutes, sure | |
| 13:08:20 | edleafe | jinx | |
| 13:08:21 | jaypipes | arvindn05: daylight savings... :) | |
| 13:08:21 | arvindn05 | ah...DST :) | |
| 13:08:24 | jaypipes | yup | |
| 13:08:30 | jaypipes | gets me every time. | |
| 13:09:40 | arvindn05 | would have thought outlook adjusted...oh well...extra hour for me :) | |
| 13:11:01 | arvindn05 | edleafe: cdent: latest patch set on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541507/ addresses other concerns..can you add your review and original +1's? | |
| 13:11:39 | edleafe | arvindn05: I have that and a bunch of others open for review today. | |
| 13:12:23 | cdent | yup, already have that open in tab | |
| 13:12:43 | arvindn05 | great...thanks. | |
| 13:13:22 | arvindn05 | i think i need a workflow +1...i am guessing that should come from matt? | |
| 13:24:40 | stephenfin | johnthetubaguy: They should. I'll fix them up and ping you then, if that's OK? | |
| 13:25:17 | Spazmotic | Welcome home, BTW, efried | |
| 13:25:58 | efried | Spazmotic: Thanks! | |
| 13:26:12 | openstackgerrit | Stephen Finucane proposed openstack/nova master: conf: Remove '[conductor] topic' opt https://review.openstack.org/499179 | |
| 13:27:21 | stephenfin | johnthetubaguy: Actually, it was just the commit message so I stripped out that line (there's no rocky equivalent) and sent it through. Fancy hitting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508487 though? | |
| 13:30:59 | Spazmotic | c'mon tempest-full.. don't play with me | |
| 13:31:21 | Spazmotic | My achey breaky heart and all that. | |
| 13:32:22 | sahid | jaypipes: we have some kind of agrements on this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539605/ if we can have you to make a first +2 | |
| 13:33:29 | sahid | cfriesen: any chance you have a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511188/ ? | |
| 13:37:18 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Raise a proper exception in unit test https://review.openstack.org/550914 | |
| 13:37:27 | johnthetubaguy | stephenfin: I think all the others need the same treatment? | |
| 13:37:45 | johnthetubaguy | stephenfin: happy to hit the whole chain though, all seem like good tidy ups | |
| 13:44:11 | ShilpaSD | stephenfin: Hi | |
| 13:46:42 | jaypipes | sahid: done | |
| 13:47:37 | kashyap | jaypipes, johnthetubaguy: Does this require a specification? Also a config change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511188/ | |
| 13:47:42 | kashyap | Err, wrong link | |
| 13:47:42 | sahid | jaypipes: thanks | |
| 13:48:13 | kashyap | jaypipes: johnthetubaguy Correct one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/ ("Allow to specify granular CPU feature flags") | |
| 13:48:48 | johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: +1 on the conflict resolution, I was more thinking about operator per flavor restrictions, like allow trait overrides on a specific flavor | |
| 13:49:30 | johnthetubaguy | kashyap: that is libvirt only, and via config, I think, so you could argue it was a specless blueprint | |
| 13:49:37 | jaypipes | kashyap: I prefer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497733/. | |
| 13:49:53 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Right; I'll go file that spec-less Blueprint | |
| 13:50:51 | kashyap | jaypipes: Hi, this is a bit more imminent, the commit message gives the rationale: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/ | |
| 13:50:58 | kashyap | jaypipes: I see the spec you linked to is the long-term solution | |
| 13:51:22 | kashyap | But to solve the immediate performance problems for all the users, I'd argue the above config approach is the cleanest | |
| 13:51:39 | johnthetubaguy | not sure, there is make available to guest and require from guest so restrict to hosts that have it | |
| 13:51:46 | johnthetubaguy | I guess its just two sides of the problem? | |
| 13:52:18 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Can you expand on this: "require from guest so restrict to hosts that have it" | |
| 13:52:39 | jaypipes | kashyap: adding yet more configuration options to nova.conf? that is specific to a single virt driver and doesn't solve the problem for the rest of them? | |
| 13:52:43 | johnthetubaguy | an image or flavor might "require" pcid | |
| 13:52:54 | johnthetubaguy | regardless the operator might want to provide pcid to the guest | |
| 13:53:00 | johnthetubaguy | seems like two different things | |
| 13:53:16 | kashyap | jaypipes: I'm with you on not sleep-walking into adding more and more config options. | |
| 13:53:19 | kashyap | jaypipes: But ... | |
| 13:53:57 | kashyap | jaypipes: This is an exceptional scenario. The executive summary is: In light of applying the "Meltdown" CVE fixes, those guests using custom CPU models will incur 30% additional performance penalty! | |
| 13:54:13 | kashyap | jaypipes: So, I don't take the adding a new config option approach very lightly | |
| 13:54:39 | kashyap | jaypipes: Yeah, there is a case to be made for that, too: allowing operators to configure _per_ flavor | |
| 13:54:53 | kashyap | (But that's a different problem. I wanted to address this immediate isolated problem.) | |
| 13:55:01 | jaypipes | kashyap: it's more of an image thing than a flavor thing, right? | |
| 13:55:18 | johnthetubaguy | neither, its an operator problem here | |
| 13:55:33 | johnthetubaguy | kashyap: you need more context in the git commit message, and less about those additional use cases | |
| 13:55:44 | dansmith | yeah, this is a pretty important one, IMHO | |
| 13:55:58 | johnthetubaguy | ideally we would turn it on everywhere to avoid the performance issue, but its not available everywhere, and that would break live-migrate | |
| 13:55:59 | dansmith | and on par with other virt conf options we have | |
| 13:56:04 | johnthetubaguy | dansmith: +1 | |
| 13:56:08 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: I wrote additional context in my first commit message. | |
| 13:56:32 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Here's all the additional context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/2//COMMIT_MSG | |
| 13:56:43 | kashyap | (But I was asked to remove it from the commit by mdbooth.) | |
| 13:56:49 | kashyap | Damned if I did, damned if I didn't | |
| 13:57:19 | johnthetubaguy | kashyap: maybe somewhere in between, without the sub headings | |
| 13:58:48 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Can modify it; I used sub headings just to make it more readable. Wonder if you think the core content is okay? | |
| 13:59:24 | stephenfin | gibi, jaypipes: Cool. Ping me whenever that is :) | |
| 13:59:36 | stephenfin | ShilpaSD: Hey, what's up? | |
| 14:00:07 | kashyap | dansmith: Since you also seem to be amenable to the idea, mind adding an Acked-By or some such in the review? | |
| 14:00:16 | gibi | stephenfin: scheduler meeting starts now, I will ping you when it is over | |
| 14:00:38 | dansmith | kashyap: I have it open, I'll look at it after I dig out from the morning | |
| 14:00:42 | dansmith | johnthetubaguy: you gonna hit it first? | |
| 14:00:56 | edleafe | Scheduler subteam meeting running now in #openstack-meeting-alt | |
| 14:00:59 | kashyap | dansmith: Sure, take your sweet time. I need to rework the unit tests anyway. | |
| 14:01:08 | dansmith | kashyap: it would really help if it was passing unit tests :) | |
| 14:01:08 | kashyap | dansmith: Also, additional context (that I cut down) is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534384/2//COMMIT_MSG | |
| 14:01:09 | dansmith | hah, yeah | |
| 14:01:30 | kashyap | dansmith: Sure, don't open it until I fix the unit tests :-) | |
| 14:02:10 | ShilpaSD | Stephenfin: hi, actually want to inform you that i am working on issue https://github.com/novnc/noVNC/issues/967, and for this updating nova\compute\manager.py for path as suugested on github issue | |
| 14:02:35 | ShilpaSD | so is it okay to chang path in such way? or is there any way around? | |
| 14:03:12 | johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah, looking at it now | |
| 14:03:52 | ShilpaSD | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/d7c46b279686308f5431410bfccb3e40031e380a/nova/compute/manager.py#L5058 | |
| 14:04:07 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Many thanks. ACK / NACK on the core change in driver.py would be useful. (I'm still looking at what tests got broken & a new unit test.) | |
| 14:05:51 | stephenfin | ShilpaSD: Yeah, I tried to reproduce that and couldn't. I only needed to make one change to the configuration. See my notes here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483994/ | |
| 14:06:02 | stephenfin | ShilpaSD: It's the comments from March 6th | |
| 14:06:44 | kashyap | johnthetubaguy: But you're right that I should've retained the URL to the perf degradation analysis. Feel free to call that out, I'm fixing it locally | |
| 14:06:54 | stephenfin | ShilpaSD: Perhaps I missed something though. Could you provide compare my steps to yours to see if this is the case? | |
| 14:07:14 | stephenfin | johnthetubaguy: Sure, that would be great. I'll go through and fix all those up now :) | |
| 14:08:22 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: XenAPI: XCP2.1+ Swallow VDI_NOT_IN_MAP Exception https://review.openstack.org/538415 | |
| 14:08:30 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: Make nova build reproducible https://review.openstack.org/551269 | |
| 14:09:41 | ShilpaSD | stephenfin: hi, i have gone through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483994/9/nova/conf/vnc.py | |
| 14:09:51 | ShilpaSD | we need to use vnc_lite.html | |
| 14:10:06 | ShilpaSD | i have verified using vnc.html | |