Posted	Nick	Remark
#openstack-nova - 2018-02-20
10:41:48	bauzas	that's not the image
10:41:48	bauzas	meh
10:42:04	mdbooth	bauzas: It's like creating a sparse file, except lvm
10:42:12	bauzas	and then tries to thin provision by itself, while cinder can do that far better
10:42:31	mdbooth	It creates a sparse block device, which only allocated blocks from the lvm block pool when they're used
10:42:35	mdbooth	Or it's supposed to, anyway
10:42:36	bauzas	looks to me we barely support it
10:42:44	mdbooth	bauzas: Right.
10:42:54	bauzas	yeah I understand the purpose of sparse LVs
10:42:59	mdbooth	bauzas: I'm not convinced this has ever worked. However, I'm pretty sure that it was intended to work.
10:43:05	bauzas	exactly
10:43:08	bauzas	hence the Wontfix
10:43:14	bauzas	we never tested that, right?
10:43:25	mdbooth	Meh, still sounds like a bug to me.
10:43:29	bauzas	some obscure blueprint that implemented in 2012 to make people happy
10:43:37	bauzas	without having decent testing
10:43:48	bauzas	call it tech debt
10:43:49	mdbooth	If we mark this wontfix, we should officially deprecate the feature instead.
10:43:54	bauzas	that's right
10:44:08	bauzas	I need to go to the gym, but I'll consider all the options before replying to the bug
10:44:21	mdbooth	bauzas: KK. Enjoy!
10:44:29	bauzas	mdbooth: yeah, we can have volume-backed instances by cinder, right?
10:44:37	mdbooth	bauzas: And don't forget I'll be Wattbiking in Dublin next week if you want to join me :)
10:44:41	bauzas	mdbooth: if so, you can do thin provisioning with cinder
10:44:48	kashyap	mdbooth: What _is_ Wattbiking? /me looks up
10:45:00	lyarwood	bauzas: yeah but not using local disks as PVs as this is doing
10:45:03	kashyap	Ah, indoor bike trainers
10:45:06	mdbooth	bauzas: Yes, I'm sure this is much better handled by cinder.
10:45:23	bauzas	mdbooth: this is what I'm doing https://vimeo.com/8178409
10:47:29	kashyap	Bail out whom?
11:04:34	mdbooth	kashyap: See the second definition of bail out in that list
11:04:43	kashyap	I saw that...
11:04:47	kashyap	The parachute thing, right?
11:04:59	kashyap	No
11:05:02	kashyap	"to abandon a harmful or difficult situation;"
11:05:03	kashyap	:P
11:05:10	kashyap	mdbooth: I doubt bauzas mean't that. Haha
11:05:32	kashyap	(I'd guess, he'd be surprised to learn that.)
11:05:50	mdbooth	Not used literally, it seems appropriate in context
11:05:51	kashyap	s/mean't/meant/
11:06:47	kashyap	Yeah, true.
11:33:08	openstackgerrit	Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/nova master: Allow to configure amount of PCIe ports https://review.openstack.org/545034
13:30:08	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: RP list: member_of and resources parameters (v1.3, v1.4) https://review.openstack.org/511183
13:30:08	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: RP delete inventories (v1.5) https://review.openstack.org/514642
13:30:09	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI for traits (v1.6) https://review.openstack.org/514643
13:30:09	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Resource class set (v1.7) https://review.openstack.org/514644
13:30:10	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: Usages per project and user (v1.8, v1.9) https://review.openstack.org/514646
13:30:10	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: CLI allocation candidates (v1.10) https://review.openstack.org/514647
13:30:11	openstackgerrit	Bence Romsics proposed openstack/osc-placement master: New dict format of allocations (v1.11, v1.12) https://review.openstack.org/542819
13:46:02	openstackgerrit	Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Functional test: cold migrate to compute down https://review.openstack.org/496280
13:46:21	openstackgerrit	Elod Illes proposed openstack/nova master: Functional test: evacuate with no compute https://review.openstack.org/498482
14:10:51	openstackgerrit	Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Add the ability to get absolute limits from Cinder https://review.openstack.org/546157
14:10:52	openstackgerrit	Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova stable/queens: Check quota before creating volume snapshots https://review.openstack.org/546158
14:12:08	mriedem	claudiub: can you get these backports? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1746032+status:open
14:44:49	jaypipes	is it Friday yet?
14:45:40	dansmith	no
14:45:57	dansmith	I can tell because I'm not in a big metal tube with sick people and crying children
14:46:27	efried	^
14:46:47	efried	Anybody got advice for what a guy can do with a 7h layover in NYC?
14:47:09	efried	Noting that both the guy in question and his spouse pretty much loathe NYC
14:47:25	jaypipes	efried: which airport?
14:48:57	efried	jaypipes: NYC
14:49:17	efried	is that an airport?
14:51:27	jroll	likely JFK
14:52:03	mriedem	you can forget about it
14:52:12	efried	Oh, it is JFK
14:52:14	mriedem	need another core on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340614/ - it's not as scary as it looks
14:52:22	mriedem	^ has to go back to ocata before eol
14:52:25	efried	I thought NYC wasn't an airport. Knew about JFK and LGA...
14:53:11	openstackgerrit	Matt Riedemann proposed openstack/nova master: Convert driver supported capabilities to compute node provider traits https://review.openstack.org/538498
14:53:34	mriedem	my flight to amsterdam is half empty
14:54:07	efried	Some might say half full.
14:54:19	efried	Interesting inversion of the usual optimist/pessimist viewpoints, that.
14:54:35	mriedem	in the case of a flight, i want it to be half empty
14:54:45	efried	exactly
14:54:49	mriedem	because 'half full' makes me think it's more full than empty, which is the opposite of what i want to be the case
14:54:52	hrw	efried: and EWR?
14:55:08	jaypipes	efried: when is your JFK layover?
14:55:19	efried	EWR is in NJ, nah?
14:55:42	jaypipes	efried: yes, that's Newark
14:55:46	hrw	efried: ah,yes
14:55:57	efried	jaypipes: 1030-1730
14:56:16	tssurya	dansmith: when you get time could you please circle around https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540073/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542964/ ; just to see if you are happy so that I can move to putting the patch of purging the compute_nodes, resource_providers on top of these (so that its more clean).
14:56:58	openstackgerrit	sahid proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: disconnect volume from host during detach https://review.openstack.org/515008
14:57:00	openstackgerrit	sahid proposed openstack/nova master: hardware: only take into account small pages https://review.openstack.org/532168
14:57:23	dansmith	tssurya: yep
14:57:45	tssurya	dansmith: thank you
14:57:47	jaypipes	efried: you could prolly uber into downtown Brooklyn for a nice little lunch.
14:57:55	jaypipes	efried: and go shopping if you fancy that
14:58:39	mnaser	my flight to dublin is packed
14:59:13	dansmith	mine as well
14:59:19	jaypipes	mnaser: from where?
14:59:33	mnaser	jaypipes: connecting here and there but jfk => dublin
14:59:54	jaypipes	mnaser: same flight as efried? :)
15:00:16	jaypipes	mnaser: I'm taking the DUB -> JFK flight back. but taking the ATL -> AMS -> DUB flight over.
15:00:24	mnaser	Delta 44 leaving at 9:50 pm and getting there at 9:20 am next day
15:00:34	efried	so nope
15:00:49	mnaser	5am arrival
15:00:50	mnaser	brave
15:00:52	jaypipes	mnaser: yeah, I'm on the Delta flight 45 coming back :)

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