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#openstack-nova - 2018-01-26
14:50:01 fried_rice radio_gaga As you wish, just another possibility. Or have the slaves all be children directly under the root, and still tag 'em with resource pool trait name.
14:50:41 radio_gaga fried_rice, yeah, that's what I am trying to accomplish right now
14:51:12 fried_rice radio_gaga Point is, then you don't need to whack all the pools and rebuild them - you can just walk the children and reassign their traits.
14:51:49 leakypipes radio_gaga: awesome Friday nick :)
14:51:59 radio_gaga leakypipes, thanks :)
14:52:44 radio_gaga leakypipes, we were discussing changing provider_tree.new_child to accept name_or_uuid instead of uuid
14:52:59 fried_rice leakypipes IMO an oversight, easily corrected. Agree?
14:53:19 fried_rice leakypipes correction: parent_name_or_uuid instead of parent_uuid
14:53:30 radio_gaga yeah, right
14:54:29 leakypipes fried_rice: how about just "parent"
14:54:34 fried_rice sure
14:54:36 leakypipes fried_rice: and make it accept either.
14:54:37 ameeda can you please review this when you available ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528385/
14:54:43 fried_rice radio_gaga is going to propose it
15:02:39 tssurya superdan, mriedem, melwitt : regarding the solution we discussed for nova list displaying only the uuid when a cell DB is down, there is this issue that we end up displaying all the instance uuids in that cell (including the deleted ones)...since we take it from the mappings, :(
15:03:05 tssurya any ideas on how to differentiate the deleted ones using api info ?
15:03:16 melwitt there isn't a way
15:03:21 superdan mm, yep, that's not really avoidable unfortunately
15:03:21 leakypipes ameeda: those are bug fixes. we can get to those as needed over next few weeks.
15:03:43 tssurya melwitt, superdan : ok :(
15:06:23 leakypipes JGrg543#1
15:06:34 superdan nice
15:06:40 belmoreira superdan that isn't good
15:06:53 leakypipes oops. now y'all know my verizon laptop password.
15:07:17 ameeda leakpipes: if you can review it for me as you can, to let me know if that is good or not.
15:07:25 superdan belmoreira: referring to leakypipes' password or the deleted instances thing?
15:08:02 SpazZz Perfect
15:08:08 belmoreira :) referring to the readonly replica idea
15:08:12 radio_gaga I am going to +2 all my patches with jay's account
15:08:24 SpazZz We handing out +2s?
15:08:34 SpazZz Will pay in baked chicken
15:08:34 leakypassword radio_gaga: good luck :) it's only for my mac laptop (which I hate and don't use for anything) ;)
15:09:20 SpazZz password has been secured. Pipe is again at risk
15:10:30 leakypipes heh
15:13:09 leakypipes superdan, mdbooth, mriedem: if someone is using qcow2 images in glance, with ceph as the backing store, what is the most efficient way to do instance snapshots? is it setting snapshot_image_format=raw or is there some ceph-specific efficient snapshotting method?
15:13:42 sean-k-mooney finucannot: leakypipes superdan just noticed we are at/past feature freeze can https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/enable-sriov-nic-features get a FFE i ame working on the last change finucannot asked for currently so i think this will be done this evening
15:14:00 melwitt leakypipes: you have to configure raw image format in glance
15:15:05 melwitt http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/
15:16:19 leakypipes sean-k-mooney: I don't have a problem with it, but mriedem is the decider-in-chief
15:17:41 leakypipes melwitt: lol, I love how the ceph docs refer to a thing called "OpenStack" -- as if it were a single thing.
15:17:49 leakypipes "Install OpenStack"
15:17:51 leakypipes heh
15:17:58 melwitt yeah, totally simple
15:19:17 openstackgerrit Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: ProviderTree.new_child: parent is either uuid or name https://review.openstack.org/538264
15:19:19 jroll leakypipes: https://i.imgur.com/rCr9A.png
15:19:20 sean-k-mooney leakypipes: :) ok ill send a mail to the list requestion the FFE mriedem i hope you dont mind if i cc you. im currently working on the changes now so the final version should be up before i leave today unless there are new review comments.
15:19:42 melwitt leakypipes: you probably need snapshot_image_format = raw too if that will dictate what format the image ends up in glance. the root point is that the image format in glance must be raw for ceph's native cow clone stuff to work
15:19:51 radio_gaga leakypipes, fried_rice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538264
15:20:40 superdan jroll: love it
15:21:08 jroll :D
15:21:20 kashyap Can anyone explain what exactly is 'nova live-igration-force-complete' doing under the hood? /me goes to look at source meanwhile
15:22:01 openstackgerrit Balazs Gibizer proposed openstack/nova master: reno for notification-transformation-queens https://review.openstack.org/518018
15:22:17 giblet mriedem: ^^
15:22:54 leakypipes jroll: lol, that's awesome
15:22:59 openstackgerrit Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: ProviderTree.new_child: parent is either uuid or name https://review.openstack.org/538264
15:24:55 fried_rice radio_gaga Small test addition please.
15:27:09 mriedem sean-k-mooney: too late for that one
15:27:20 mriedem leakypipes: there is a direct snapshot thing you can configure with the rbd image backend
15:27:30 mriedem metacloud added it a few years ago
15:28:41 mriedem kashyap: post-copy i think
15:29:13 openstackgerrit Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: ProviderTree.new_child: parent is either uuid or name https://review.openstack.org/538264
15:29:32 kashyap mriedem: It is related, but not entirely specific to PostCopy, near as I see.
15:29:39 kashyap I'm looking at this document: doc/source/admin/live-migration-usage.rst
15:29:44 melwitt leakypipes, mriedem: oh yeah. the direct snapshot also involves exposing a direct image URL in glance
15:29:49 kashyap And it says:
15:29:52 melwitt trying to find docs for this
15:29:53 mriedem kashyap: any docs on live migratoin in nova are probably super old
15:30:09 kashyap mriedem: Okay, I'll add a TODO to update that, actually
15:30:39 mriedem leakypipes: melwitt: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/implemented/rbd-instance-snapshots.html
15:30:50 radio_gaga fried_rice, done
15:30:53 mriedem the ceph CI job is also configured to make this work ^
15:31:18 melwitt mriedem: yeah, just found that. I would have thought there was some kinda operator docs about this somewhere
15:31:37 melwitt apparently not
15:31:54 melwitt not finding anything on the googles
15:32:36 superdan kashyap: it pauses the instance to stop the dirtying I think
15:32:44 sean-k-mooney mriedem: ok ill see if i can continue working on it until early rocky
15:32:53 mriedem melwitt: well, if there was, the operator docs were all deleted
15:33:06 mriedem melwitt: but i doubt it
15:33:28 kashyap superdan: At least the existing doc says (12 lines of paste upcoming):
15:33:30 mriedem the direct image / location url stuff is semi-not recommended
15:33:33 kashyap - **Manually force-complete the migration**
15:33:34 kashyap .. code-block:: console
15:33:34 kashyap $ nova live-migration-force-complete INSTANCE_ID MIGRATION_ID
15:33:34 kashyap The instance is paused until memory copy completes.
15:33:34 kashyap .. caution::
15:33:36 kashyap Since the pause impacts time keeping on the instance and not all
15:33:37 mriedem because it exposes the location of the image
15:33:38 kashyap applications tolerate incorrect time settings, use this approach with
15:33:41 kashyap caution.
15:34:44 kashyap superdan: So your guess seems right
15:35:17 superdan kashyap: it wasn't really a guess, but ... okay :)
15:35:30 kashyap superdan: I like how you're a stickler for words.
15:47:05 openstackgerrit Claudiu Belu proposed openstack/nova master: tests: fixes mock autospec usage https://review.openstack.org/447505
16:06:57 mriedem figleaf: ooo alternate hosts for resize is finally in the gate queue
16:06:58 mriedem progress
16:08:53 lpetrut mriedem: hi, quick question about nova docs: do you know by any chance if config option tables are still being used? e.g. https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/stable/newton/doc/config-reference/source/tables/nova-vnc.rst
16:09:02 mriedem yes
16:09:12 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/sample-config.html
16:09:18 mriedem https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/configuration/config.html
16:09:38 mriedem lpetrut: those docs are auto-generated from the config options in code

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