| Posted | Nick | Remark | |
|---|---|---|---|
| #openstack-nova - 2017-12-14 | |||
| 14:14:19 | mriedem | so either 1 or 2 intermediate releases (6 month or 4 month between them), and do our normal spec review, spec freeze, code churn, feature freeze, stability minute, then open up for new specs again | |
| 14:14:31 | mriedem | i don't think we can freeze out specs for an entire year, | |
| 14:14:45 | mriedem | and i don't think we can leave spec reviews open for an entire year and focus on actually getting things done | |
| 14:14:52 | edleafe | mriedem: so would they be Rocky I, Rocky II, ... | |
| 14:15:11 | mriedem | rocky IV is where we fight the mirantis guys | |
| 14:15:18 | mriedem | us guys, | |
| 14:15:19 | mriedem | and yous guys | |
| 14:16:37 | mriedem | having said that, i don't know what we'd do for upgrade testing with intermediate releases | |
| 14:16:53 | mriedem | do you do queens->rocky.1, queens->rocky.2, or queens->rocky.1->rocky.2? | |
| 14:17:09 | mriedem | today it would be the former because of how the CI system works on branches | |
| 14:17:31 | mriedem | i assume we would use minor version bumps for intermediate releases | |
| 14:17:34 | edleafe | yuck | |
| 14:17:46 | cdent | blargh | |
| 14:17:49 | mriedem | so rocky 1 would be 17.1.0 | |
| 14:17:53 | mriedem | if rocky GA was 18.0.0 | |
| 14:17:56 | mriedem | but, | |
| 14:18:08 | mriedem | that gets tricky if we actually need to backport something to stable/pike which would normally be a minor update | |
| 14:18:12 | mriedem | like a schema migration | |
| 14:19:09 | mriedem | likely a question i'll need to ask about in "the thread" | |
| 14:20:18 | stephenfin | efried_cya_jan: See your comments now. I'll address them shortly | |
| 14:20:30 | stephenfin | Fwiw, I'll keep trying to do the minimum possible amount to keep everyone happy and get it in (ignored most of my own comments/preferences for this reason) | |
| 14:20:57 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Refactor encryptor attach and detach calls https://review.openstack.org/460243 | |
| 14:20:58 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: libvirt: Introduce disk encryption config classes https://review.openstack.org/464008 | |
| 14:20:58 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP libvirt: Use QEMU's native LUKS support https://review.openstack.org/523958 | |
| 14:24:22 | openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/nova master: WIP libvirt: Use QEMU's native LUKS support https://review.openstack.org/523958 | |
| 14:26:08 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] add name to resource provider create error https://review.openstack.org/526710 | |
| 14:26:14 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: [placement] Add 'Location' parameters in API ref https://review.openstack.org/521541 | |
| 14:26:20 | openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/nova master: doc: link in some Sydney summit content https://review.openstack.org/526587 | |
| 14:27:09 | dansmith | bauzas: need you to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527799/2 | |
| 14:30:01 | takashin | mriedem: The compute API microversion 2.57 was added in "Deprecate file injection" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522027/ . | |
| 14:30:06 | takashin | mriedem: But I cannot find a patch for microversion 2.57 in python-novaclient. Would you submit the patch? | |
| 14:31:11 | takashin | mriedem: Are you around? | |
| 14:33:22 | jaypipes | mriedem: ok, looking at it now. | |
| 14:37:04 | mriedem | takashin: i plan on working on that novaclient patch today | |
| 14:37:16 | mriedem | takashin: didn't get the time yesterday - too much other stuff going on | |
| 14:38:26 | takashin | mriedem: okay. Thanks. | |
| 14:43:53 | jroll | mriedem: we should talk about releases/upgrades at PTG if this goes through, ironic has some experience with that | |
| 14:46:41 | cdent | jroll: are you back on the scene? | |
| 14:46:48 | cdent | as in: gonna be in dublin? | |
| 14:46:54 | mriedem | jroll: yeah i was going to ask in the thread to get the experience of other teams already doing it | |
| 14:47:27 | jroll | cdent: waiting for approval but hopefully yes | |
| 14:47:33 | jroll | mriedem: ++ | |
| 14:49:55 | mriedem | i didn't want to ask jroll that question | |
| 14:50:05 | mriedem | something something "don't ask a question you don't already know the answer to" | |
| 14:50:20 | jroll | you don't wanna know anyway | |
| 15:01:02 | stephenfin | mdbooth: So if I'm understanding this correctly, this fixes and issue we'd only see when using microversion < 2.25? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524681/ | |
| 15:09:21 | cdent | zounds, an email thread has drawn dansmith, this is a banner day | |
| 15:09:52 | dansmith | cdent: I really really wanted to ignore this one even more than usual | |
| 15:10:14 | cdent | dansmith: I'm glad you didn't. | |
| 15:15:34 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (usage) https://review.openstack.org/520603 | |
| 15:16:01 | openstackgerrit | Jianghua Wang proposed openstack/nova master: XenAPI: create vGPU for instance https://review.openstack.org/516899 | |
| 15:16:02 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (trait) https://review.openstack.org/520605 | |
| 15:16:28 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (aggregate) https://review.openstack.org/520608 | |
| 15:16:49 | dansmith | apparently I'm just replying to edleafe's emails today | |
| 15:16:54 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Add functional tests for resource class API https://review.openstack.org/524506 | |
| 15:16:58 | mriedem | sdague: bauzas: can you take a look at these ocata backports? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1732947+status:open+branch:stable/ocata - holding up newton backports for the same changes which is holding up newton eol | |
| 15:17:15 | openstackgerrit | Takashi NATSUME proposed openstack/nova master: [placement] Separate API schemas (inventory) https://review.openstack.org/520613 | |
| 15:17:29 | bauzas | mriedem: roger, captain | |
| 15:17:34 | mriedem | bauzas: sdague: and this ocata one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526426/ | |
| 15:17:35 | mriedem | same story | |
| 15:17:49 | mriedem | tonyb: i sent an email to the dev list about what i think needs to happen to get nova to newton-eol | |
| 15:19:16 | jianghuaw_ | hi bauzas, need your help to look at this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516899/ | |
| 15:19:36 | mriedem | tonyb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125592.html | |
| 15:24:19 | lyarwood | mriedem: did we also want to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526426/1 in newton? | |
| 15:25:30 | lyarwood | mriedem: ah nvm, you listed the stable/newton version in that query, ignore me | |
| 15:29:04 | cdent | shiny pretty edleafe | |
| 15:32:22 | mriedem | i did think about the impact to the deprecation policy this morning when i got up, glad dan mentioned that | |
| 15:32:37 | mriedem | we will be supporting turds for longer, and hamstrung by said turds potentially | |
| 15:32:47 | mriedem | i'm glad we said rocky is the target to drop nova-net and cellsv1 | |
| 15:33:58 | cdent | the bits with "support both ways of doing this thing" have to stay around longer too, which is icky | |
| 15:34:09 | cdent | but then again, apparently the style is something the ff-upgrade people don't like? | |
| 15:39:18 | dansmith | mriedem: so my goal on that reqspec fix is to try to converse with bauzas about it today to make sure he's okay with it and/or there's not something huge we're missing on it | |
| 15:39:47 | mriedem | ack | |
| 15:39:49 | dansmith | mriedem: and then hand over the patch and backports to artom, who unfortunately is the recipient of many such turdish patches of mine right before I leave on vacay :P | |
| 15:40:12 | artom | Seriously, I'm like dansmith's crap scapegaot | |
| 15:40:17 | artom | Crapgoat | |
| 15:40:19 | mriedem | dansmith: i'm personally not comfortable with that one going to newton right before we eol | |
| 15:40:24 | dansmith | artom: as you will henceforth be known. | |
| 15:40:26 | mriedem | i think the column alter is fine | |
| 15:40:27 | mriedem | for newton | |
| 15:40:42 | mriedem | i'm worried too much about reqspec/group side effects | |
| 15:40:50 | dansmith | mriedem: well, I'd rather just not backport any of it to newton myself, | |
| 15:41:04 | dansmith | mriedem: and don't really want to backport the migration at all, but that's fine | |
| 15:41:14 | dansmith | we will, of course, but newton needs to go at some point | |
| 15:41:24 | artom | I agree that the migration might have more side effects than the load by UUID patch | |
| 15:41:25 | mriedem | i know but i love it so | |
| 15:41:27 | artom | Er, less | |
| 15:41:27 | dansmith | and this is something that has been this way since the release and which we've only _just_ heard about | |
| 15:41:44 | artom | So if we're going to backport something, it might actually be safer to do just the migration | |
| 15:41:44 | mriedem | yeah, because people are just now upgraded | |
| 15:41:46 | mriedem | *upgrading | |
| 15:42:02 | mriedem | well, people with big ass server groups apparently :) | |
| 15:42:14 | artom | Also good point - there's like a 1-2 year lag between upstream and what's actually running | |
| 15:42:36 | dansmith | well, there are definitely people already on newton and beyond, but I understand that reasoning | |
| 15:43:02 | dansmith | mriedem: fwiw, there were only four such instances in a database of tens of thousands that were affected here | |
| 15:43:15 | dansmith | mriedem: and it seemed like it was a very specific case, which might have been testing and/or a script run amok | |
| 15:43:26 | dansmith | just for the data point | |
| 15:43:43 | mriedem | ok | |
| 15:44:10 | dansmith | the fact that we're crystallizing known-bad server groups in the database at creation time is almost more concerning to me than the overrun case | |
| 15:44:48 | artom | Known-bad? | |