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#openstack-nova - 2017-09-21
13:12:32 kashyap mdbooth: Ah, thanks
13:12:39 edmondsw stephenfin wasn't that always the plan when we first deprecated them?
13:13:10 mriedem mdbooth: yes there are 2 patches
13:13:17 edmondsw either way... the powervm CI is going to be busted until we get something merged for this
13:13:31 stephenfin edmondsw: Yes and no. We do emit warnings that option have been renamed, but we've never gone and removed the old aliases
13:13:35 mriedem mdbooth: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1718295
13:13:45 mdbooth mriedem: I found 1. Interested to know how this ended up on your radar, btw.
13:13:45 edmondsw stephenfin k
13:14:31 stephenfin efried: The fix I've suggested seemed far simpler and involved less other changes (fixing the the powervm CI patch, for one) so that's why I went with it
13:14:32 mriedem mdbooth: because the live migration job shit the bed the other day when devstack was changed to use pike uca packages
13:14:34 mriedem it's in the ML
13:14:45 mdbooth mriedem: Ah, ok.
13:15:03 efried stephenfin wfm. But how long are we planning to keep the original opts around?
13:15:03 mriedem jamespage pointed out the change in 2.10
13:15:28 stephenfin That's a question for the PTL. mriedem - do you think we should ever remove old deprecated opt aliases?
13:15:49 stephenfin mriedem: i.e. where we moved an opt from '[DEFAULT]' to, say, '[libvirt]'
13:15:49 efried Last night his only complaint was the proliferation of renos :)
13:15:59 kashyap mdbooth: It's this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1718295
13:16:01 openstack Launchpad bug 1718295 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Live migration fails with qemu-img >= 2.10: "Failed to get shared "write" lock\nIs another process using the image?"" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Dague (sdague)
13:16:13 stephenfin :D
13:16:18 mdbooth Interesting that UCA has newer libvirt/qemu than RHEL.
13:16:42 stephenfin efried: I was going to note that you can edit a reno in the same cycle, then noticed you actually did that. I can see where he's coming from, heh
13:17:36 mdbooth Or Fedora, even
13:17:42 mdbooth That's pretty darned fresh
13:17:43 sdague mriedem: I reved the patch to pass unit tests
13:17:56 kashyap Yeah, UCA is supposed to be stable/long-term
13:17:58 kashyap Isn't it?
13:18:02 efried stephenfin Yeah... I was following the instructions in the reno template which said you need to duplicate information. x This change seemed like it was applicable to both the 'upgrade' and the 'deprecation' sections. x I was doing both things (removing the old deprecated opt and renaming the new one).
13:18:17 sdague it turns out the broken hypervisor error pops a little earlier with this code path
13:18:20 stephenfin efried: gotcha
13:18:39 sdague kashyap: UCA is how they get latest bits to users. For the ubuntu package they unconditionally patched it
13:18:41 stephenfin efried: In any case, if you'd prefer to just remove the old alias then go for it. I would've proposed a separate patch altogether but I didn't want to de-emphasise your work reporting the bug/working on an initial fix
13:18:52 sdague because they know what version of qemu is required
13:19:11 stephenfin Though I do prefer this approach, given that we've never removed deprecated aliases before #justsaying
13:19:22 efried stephenfin No, I think it's appropriate to split those up. Removing the original opts would seem to be a separate effort following on from the original bp that did the split-out-of-DEFAULT in the first place.
13:19:31 kashyap sdague: Ah, latest bits; shipping QEMU 2.10 is a bit pre-mature with OpenStack, no? (But good for finding bugs, though.)
13:19:39 stephenfin efried: +1
13:19:43 efried "never removed deprecated aliases before" ?
13:20:02 efried For what value of "never"?
13:20:04 stephenfin i.e. dropped 'deprecated_group' or 'deprecated_name' arguments
13:20:18 sdague kashyap: well someone has to ship things
13:20:20 stephenfin Like, ever, from what I can tell
13:20:49 kashyap Sure; question is not about shipping :-) There can be different repos for bleeding edge users.
13:21:19 efried I'm *sure* I've seen it done. But I'm not one to stand on principle and go find an example :)
13:21:28 sdague kashyap: yeh, well, the work around was easy for them. Honestly, I'm never going to ding people for deciding to run with what latest upstream things is fine. :)
13:21:57 kashyap Yep, agreed on that bit.
13:22:14 kashyap We still have to figure out that CI job we've been discussing on the list forever
13:22:42 kashyap Where latest libvirt / QEMU (from Git, newest upstream tarballs) are tested w/ Nova Git.
13:23:40 mriedem efried: stephenfin: deprecated options can go after a release
13:23:40 jamespage sdague, mriedem: I'm going to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505748/ - its way to brittle relying on calling code to know whether to lock or not.
13:23:50 mriedem jamespage: ok
13:24:06 jamespage mriedem: sdague's approach seems a bit more rugged...
13:24:18 mriedem kashyap: you're the one that's always saying we should run against latest libvirt/qemu :)
13:24:18 sdague well, mriedem actually wrote the patch
13:24:40 kashyap mriedem: Yes, I say it to be done in a _separate_ CI job :-)
13:24:49 mriedem oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
13:24:53 jamespage must have missed that..
13:24:56 stephenfin mriedem: This is more about the deprecated aliases, where we rename an opt or change its group, but still keep it around
13:24:56 jamespage apols
13:25:19 stephenfin efried: Proof or it didn't happen ;)
13:25:20 sdague this only showed up in live migration though, honestly, CI isn't going to catch every edge casee
13:25:32 mriedem stephenfin: deprecated is deprecated what's the difference
13:25:42 mriedem this config option deprecation stuff is grating on my brain
13:26:33 stephenfin mriedem: So I _shouldn't_ push a twenty-patch "remove deprecated opts" series? Aww :'(
13:28:36 efried The difference is just code cleanup / tech debt. We could keep every deprecated option around forever and it wouldn't hurt anything. But it sure would look messy.
13:31:30 efried stephenfin Oh, snap. Here's one. Guess who authored it? I41a6be48380999c49d6db3ee5221174a41014002
13:32:45 efried reviewed, rather.
13:33:03 efried It was in the same blueprint as the one that moved the vnc opts originally (which was your change set IIRC)
13:34:23 openstackgerrit Merged openstack/os-vif master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502708
13:34:41 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/nova master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/505839
13:35:04 efried stephenfin And here's one you did co-author: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463220/
13:35:06 efried I'll stop now.
13:36:56 openstackgerrit OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-traits master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/503646
13:38:36 mriedem efried: stephenfin: i've been dealing with getting my kid to school, so haven't been following along, what is the actual issue?
13:38:42 mriedem i know about the vnc rename thing
13:39:59 dansmith gibi: responded to some of your comments, thanks for looking at this stuff
13:40:58 openstackgerrit Radoslav Gerganov proposed openstack/nova master: VMware: implement get_inventory() driver method https://review.openstack.org/506175
13:41:30 efried mriedem That's all. Just needing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505831/ to merge pdq for the sake of a couple of 3rd party CIs that were testing with those opts.
13:43:41 efried powervm is kinda bound up between that and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504194/ -- we need ^ to merge first so our rename of < will pass.
13:46:37 mriedem efried: +2
13:46:53 mriedem alex_xu: sdague: can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505831/ ? unblocks some 3rd party CIs
13:47:31 efried Thanks!
13:47:37 mriedem efried: are you going to follow that up and drop support for the options in the DEFAULT group/
13:47:40 mriedem which were deprecated
13:47:49 efried Can
13:49:25 sdague what's the no valid host error all about in CI?
13:49:30 bauzas oomichi: you're around ? see my comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506092/1 ?
13:51:26 openstackgerrit Thomas Bechtold proposed openstack/nova stable/pike: Handle deleted instances when refreshing the info_cache https://review.openstack.org/506183
13:52:11 mriedem fancy pants nova meeting in 8 minutes
13:52:42 openstackgerrit Sylvain Bauza proposed openstack/nova master: Fix definitely move single instance when created concurrently https://review.openstack.org/506093
13:52:53 bauzas mriedem: you could have interest in ^
13:53:31 takashin bauzas: Could you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408955/ ?
13:53:56 bauzas takashin: yeah, that's in my pipe for a long way :)
13:54:17 takashin bauzas: Thank you.
13:54:19 bauzas takashin: now we merged the spec, let's go back on the implementation side :)
13:54:31 mriedem bauzas: yeah, after the meeting
13:54:45 bauzas mriedem: np, just wanted to make sure you were aware
13:55:33 mriedem dansmith: oh yeah, remind me to talk to you about filtering on IPs
13:55:35 mriedem with your series
13:55:42 mriedem given the discussion we had in denver about how we don't do that in the DB

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